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01-18-2013, 04:17 PM
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Not even halfway through the game and Nygren already has 2 PPG, 8 shots.
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Walsh is injured. GD!

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Dietz and Thrower each with an assist...Dietz goes -3, Thrower goes +3 in a 5-4 win.

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Hey guys, could you give me some info on :

Nathan Beaulieu
Dalton Thrower
Cedrick Desjardins

I'd like to know how far out you guys seem them from making the NHL. Have them in a keeper league and I'm trying to track down how far each of my prospects are along in their development

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Hey guys, could you give me some info on :

Nathan Beaulieu
Dalton Thrower
Cedrick Desjardins

I'd like to know how far out you guys seem them from making the NHL. Have them in a keeper league and I'm trying to track down how far each of my prospects are along in their development
Beaulieu - a year or two from the NHL, anything from a fringe puck mover to a first pairing defender. Realistically a second pairing PP specialist with some two way upside if he improves his discipline. Will get at least a shot at the NHL, but a good year away.

Thrower - At least two years away from the NHL, has a mixture of grit and offensive upside but needs to improve his defensive game to consider making the NHL. Best case scenario a nastier Wisniewski. Has apparently had attitude problems this season, needs to focus if he's going to make the NHL.

Desjardins - Others disagree with me because he looked good in his few NHL outings, but I don't see him as anything more than a good AHL goalie or a low end NHL backup. Put it this way, I think he's a step down form Budaj, but potentially comparable to Auld.

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Hey guys, could you give me some info on :

Nathan Beaulieu
Dalton Thrower
Cedrick Desjardins

I'd like to know how far out you guys seem them from making the NHL. Have them in a keeper league and I'm trying to track down how far each of my prospects are along in their development
Beaulieu - a year or two from the NHL, anything from a fringe puck mover to a first pairing defender. Realistically a second pairing PP specialist with some two way upside if he improves his discipline. Will get at least a shot at the NHL, but a good year away. I have faith that he will be a good offensive defenseman, but it might take a few years.

Thrower - At least two years away from the NHL, has a mixture of grit and offensive upside but needs to improve his defensive game to consider making the NHL. Best case scenario a nastier Wisniewski. Has apparently had attitude problems this season, needs to focus if he's going to make the NHL.

Desjardins - Others disagree with me because he looked good in his few NHL outings, but I don't see him as anything more than a good AHL goalie or a low end NHL backup. Put it this way, I think he's a step down form Budaj, but potentially comparable to Auld. Can fill in at the NHL level at any moment.

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What happed to Bozon? He didn't play last night.

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What happed to Bozon? He didn't play last night.
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Watched Kristo/MacMillan last night. They moved MacMillan again, now he's on the 2nd line LW, as his brother is on the top line LW again. Kristo helped set up the lone goal on the PP as he would have had the 3rd assist if it existed. The knock on Kristo in the past has been that he puts up points against poor teams and then struggles against the better teams.

In the past few weeks he had 15 pts in 6 games against Mich Tech, Holy Cross, and CC, which CC and Tech having losing records and are near the bottom of the WCHA and while HC is having a good year they play in the weakest conference in the NCAA D-1. Last night was one of the biggest games of the season for ND and Kristo is held pointless and a -4 on the night, going to be interesting to see how he responds tonight on the road against the top rated team in the NCAA.

Looks like those who get the Score channel can watch tonights North Dakota- Minnesota game on tape delay tomorrow night. These two teams do not like each other so the games can get out of hand as they have in the past from time to time so it might be a fun game to catch. Kristo is #7 and MacMillan is #16, his older brother is #25 just in case you see a MacMillan on the back of his jersey as it's thrown me off before.





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Hey guys, could you give me some info on :

Nathan Beaulieu
Dalton Thrower
Cedrick Desjardins

I'd like to know how far out you guys seem them from making the NHL. Have them in a keeper league and I'm trying to track down how far each of my prospects are along in their development
Beaulieu has some impressive offensive skills and instincts to go along with solid physical abilities (skating, speed, strength, frame) But he has major holes in his defensive game and decision making with suggestions that he still has a lot of maturing to do not just on the ice but off as well. As the season has wore on he's progressed nicely but the Habs would be smart, imo to leave him in the AHL for a long while. But I also am not a fan of the Habs current D so I have big fears that he will be rushed to the NHL along with Tinordi as the Habs are going to need these guys sooner rather then later which would be ashame since both have a number of interesting aspects to their games.

If injuries hit the Habs D hard he's likely around 11th or so on the depth chart assuming Subban gets inked at some point. But next year I could see him getting some NHL games in, with maybe being a full timer in 2 or 3 years depending on how much his defensive game improves and at what rate.

Thrower should be in the AHL next year so we'll have to see how it goes for him. He started slow with 1g, 3 pts and was an E in plus minus in his first 10 games of the season to 3g 12 pts and a +14 in the last 19 games. Granted the team turned things around after a rough start but if Thrower can work on his defensive game and decision making he could see some NHL games in 2 or 3 years. Even though he's not put up the points like he did last year, he brings an interesting mix of offense, grit and physical play so hopefully the problems this season are a learning experience to build off.

Desjardins perhaps could be an NHL backup at some point but i'm not sure if it will be with the Habs or not, even though they don't have a backup under contract for next season. He's been struggling in the AHL of late and was in the coaches dog house for his meltdown in the game against his former team in Lake Erie. In the past though he's been great in the AHL and the Habs will need someone to backup Price next year, but I don't know if the team would want someone with more experience to be around Price and the additional media pressure that would happen whenever Price has a bad game. Plus Desjardins would likely sign on the cheap so if the team needs cap space that could go in his favor depending on how the FA goalie market looks.

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LINK: http://www.hockeysverige.se/article/...sse-for-nygren

Small article about Nygren and European teams' interest in him for next year and this:
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22-year-old was picked as over-aged player of Montréal in the draft in 2011 and the NHL club has also now an even greater interest in [him] than what you had before.
- We have a pretty good relationship, a bit more now than last season. Above all, I talk with Christer Rockström (scout for Montreal), both generally and for hockey.
- It seems that although they think I made ​​a pretty substantial pressure and they are much more interested than before. I think they have believed in me all the time, but now maybe they really started to believe that I could be something, laughs Nygren.

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Small article about Nygren and European teams' interest in him for next year and this:
Could Nygren be the Habs replacement for PK Subban,it certainly sounds like Nygren has taken the same route as PK did.Learning the defensive side of the game while lighting up the scoreboard and now drawing interest from the KHL as well as Montreal.

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Could Nygren be the Habs replacement for PK Subban,it certainly sounds like Nygren has taken the same route as PK did.Learning the defensive side of the game while lighting up the scoreboard and now drawing interest from the KHL as well as Montreal.
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Small article about Nygren and European teams' interest in him for next year and this:
I'm glad to hear Rockstrom is keeping in contact with our European prospects.

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I'm glad to hear Rockstrom is keeping in contact with our European prospects.
Wouldn't that be what every NHL scout does?

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Kristo and MacMillan are playing on The Score right now.

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I was very impressed by Kristo. Scored a Gionta-like goal by batting the puck out of the air on a rebound while being surrounded by opposing players which the anouncer called "outstanding work" by Kristo. Showed some great hands and speed on a number of ocassions. Hit the post in OT and had another great chance before that. I seriosly don't get that NCAA thing this year - he is a pro caliber player playing in college. I really think he is not far from the NHL and maybe after his season is over they will let him play some games with the Habs just like Kreider last year with the Rangers.

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Kristo in the NHL next year? Or will he need more seasoning in the AHL?

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Kristo in the NHL next year? Or will he need more seasoning in the AHL?
Well, I only saw this one game this year for what it is worth, but I don't think he will need much AHL really. He will probably start there but if all goes well will be in the NHL at some point during the season. The habs can surelly use his skill.

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Kristo in the NHL next year? Or will he need more seasoning in the AHL?
Montreal is my go-to for opinions on NCAA players and I believe he said he thought he might need a bit of time in the AHL.

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Montreal is my go-to for opinions on NCAA players and I believe he said he thought he might need a bit of time in the AHL.
Him and whitesnake really are my go to sources for info on NCAA. Whenever I post a question in this thread, I'm usually hoping one of them has time to answer. Not that I don't want any other opinions, far from it.

I know that whitesnake is a big Kristo fan, so if he thinks he'll still need seasoning, I'd bet on that being the reality of the situation.

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I don't think he would look out of place in the NHL but I have doubts he can play top 6 right away and for a full season. I think going from a ~45 game schedule to 82 plus the jump in difficulty level would be too much for him.

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I'm just guessing but from what I"ve seen in heard Kristo would need a year in the AHL at the most.

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Just an opinion, but I believe Kristo will indeed need more seasoning in the AHL for his overall game, who has improved, he's not just a PP specialist, but you hope that he still improves. At best, I see him as already being a recall during his 1st AHL year though. With a real shot at becoming a regular in his 2nd year. But hey, eveyrthing can happen. Kristo could come in and be totally lights out making him impossible to cut. I don't believe it though from a Habs perspective. Yet, some people might take it lightly, but he will still have to endure what a freakin long calendar is all about. And I prefer to see him doing it in the AHL. But some callups during the year? Absolutely.

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Just an opinion, but I believe Kristo will indeed need more seasoning in the AHL for his overall game, who has improved, he's not just a PP specialist, but you hope that he still improves. At best, I see him as already being a recall during his 1st AHL year though. With a real shot at becoming a regular in his 2nd year. But hey, eveyrthing can happen. Kristo could come in and be totally lights out making him impossible to cut. I don't believe it though from a Habs perspective. Yet, some people might take it lightly, but he will still have to endure what a freakin long calendar is all about. And I prefer to see him doing it in the AHL. But some callups during the year? Absolutely.
Thanks for your insight as usual WS.

Would be nice to see Kristo get signed and play a few games with Hamilton at the end of the year, though it probably won't be very many as Hamilton more than likely will not make the playoffs.

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