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01-18-2013, 08:52 PM
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Shut out for Sparks, although no idea how well he played - he wasn't one of the 3 stars, so guess it was one of those steady, unspectacular SO's which isn't so bad.

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01-18-2013, 08:56 PM
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Rielly makes an immediate mark back with Moose Jaw.

Already potted an assist. 3rd period still left.

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01-18-2013, 08:57 PM
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Rielly makes an immediate mark back with Moose Jaw.

Already potted an assist. 3rd period still left.
hope he continues improve in other parts of the game.

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01-18-2013, 08:59 PM
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So the Wild are keeping Dumba. Man they must be desperate.
The Wild are missing the playoffs this year. Just not enough depth. Good stars but nothing after that.

Poor guys..pay 98M identical contracts, miss the playoffs.

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01-18-2013, 09:01 PM
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It would've been brodin who would've made it but apparently dumba has really turned it up in camp.

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PPG player this year how many people in a million years predicted that..

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01-18-2013, 11:05 PM
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PPG player this year how many people in a million years predicted that..
i believe he is an overager so it's not surprising tbh.

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01-18-2013, 11:13 PM
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Toninato with a goal and an assist, is on a 9 game point streak.

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i believe he is an overager so it's not surprising tbh.
No he isn't. He is in his final year of junior eligibility. You may be thinking of Devane who was an overager last year.

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01-19-2013, 12:02 AM
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Toninato with a goal and an assist, is on a 9 game point streak.
i know it isn't much but i really have high hopes for this kid. he is without doubt the front runner for my darkhorse prospect.

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No he isn't. He is in his final year of junior eligibility. You may be thinking of Devane who was an overager last year.
ah that maybe. my bad then. I hope he continues this then and makes strides in other aspect of the game.

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01-19-2013, 01:24 AM
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Hey guys, could you tell me how far out Spencer Abbot is from making the NHL and if he stands a good chance to make the team before 2014/15?

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I haven't been following the marlies or training camp very closely, can any one tell me why Joe Colborne wasn't at training camp?

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Hey guys, could you tell me how far out Spencer Abbot is from making the NHL and if he stands a good chance to make the team before 2014/15?
too small, and plays small. His ceiling is pretty much Keith Aucoin

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PPG player this year how many people in a million years predicted that..
My math may be spotty, but 37 points in 44 games doesn't seem to ad up to PPG.

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01-19-2013, 04:29 AM
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Hey guys, could you tell me how far out Spencer Abbot is from making the NHL and if he stands a good chance to make the team before 2014/15?
He has a lot of skill and it seems like he is finally showing out tonight. I think however his height will be the main issue if he were to make it to the bigs. He has to have the endurance of a ennis or msl to really let his game be good for the NHL.

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Just some housekeeping for boring people like myself who like to keep track of such things:

Owuya (obviously), Devane, and Crescenzi were recalled from their ECHL loans to the Marlies. Carrick (20 pts in 31 gm) and Brenner (22 pts in 33 gm) remain in the ECHL, with Brenner re-assigned to Toledo (where he scored in his 1st game last night), going from the worst team in the league (Bakersfield) to a middle-of-the-pack team.

Leivo traded to the Kitchener Rangers awhile back (I'd guess someone already mentioned this, but just saying), where he has 4 points in 5 games so far.

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Toninato with a goal and an assist, is on a 9 game point streak.
It's great to see Toninato produce as he has. Though I can't shake the feeling that he's simply performing as a NCAA-bound scoring USHL forward should. I'm looking forward to how he performs once he joins Cameranesi at Minn-Duluth (where Cameranesi's freshman production is something to start getting excited about after a decent year in the USHL)

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01-19-2013, 09:26 AM
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My math may be spotty, but 37 points in 44 games doesn't seem to ad up to PPG.
Yeah it's 39 in 45 now, but it still doesn't add up to PPG. He's having a nice season for a power forward though.

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01-19-2013, 09:42 AM
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I haven't been following the marlies or training camp very closely, can any one tell me why Joe Colborne wasn't at training camp?
He is NOT ready.

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Hey guys, could you tell me how far out Spencer Abbot is from making the NHL and if he stands a good chance to make the team before 2014/15?
I like him a lot, but I'm not sure what role he will have in the NHL

I think he'll max out as a top AHLer who gets some Nhl time due to injuries.

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01-19-2013, 10:41 AM
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Hey guys, could you tell me how far out Spencer Abbot is from making the NHL and if he stands a good chance to make the team before 2014/15?
To me, he is the most talented forward on the Marlies currently.

People like to slight him due to his size, but Abbot is exceptionally strong on his skates. He has excellent vision (possibly even better than Nazem's) and great offensive instincts.

I would not be surprised if he ends up being the first call-up for the Leafs or even if he sticks with the team as early as this season. In my mind he's nearly ready for the NHL as it stands.

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PPG player this year how many people in a million years predicted that..
Looks like he's passed our former 1st rd picks Biggs and Percy on the depth chart.

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To me, he is the most talented forward on the Marlies currently.

People like to slight him due to his size, but Abbot is exceptionally strong on his skates. He has excellent vision (possibly even better than Nazem's) and great offensive instincts.

I would not be surprised if he ends up being the first call-up for the Leafs or even if he sticks with the team as early as this season. In my mind he's nearly ready for the NHL as it stands.
Size is the most overrated reason for saying a player won't make the NHL.

Yes size can't be taught and it can be very handy to have. But skill is not something that comes easy. And Abbot is very talented, size be damned. Size is becoming an increasingly smaller issue. Yes it can be a detriment to a player. But so is skating to a six foot four player, or hockey sense to any player. It's just an obstacle, not nearly the near unbreakable wall that many make it out to be.

The most common argument against small players is that they can get easily thrown around because they are so small. This is true, but the successful small players know that and play accordingly. They are shifty and are damn near impossible to get a bead on. So yes they can get pushed around, but good luck finding them to do it.

David Desharnais, Brian Gionta, Martin St Louis, Jordan Eberle, Ray Whitney, Visnovsky, Saku Koivu, Timonen, Briere, Cammalleri, Derek Roy, Brad Marchand, Steve Sullivan, Tyler Ennis, Nathan Gerbe.

All player's 5 foot 10 or under who have had success in the NHL. And then you go up one inch and the list grows much larger.

Size needs to stop being this insurmountable obstacle. Small guys regularly make the NHL. That's not going to stop anytime soon. Skill is skill.

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Looks like he's passed our former 1st rd picks Biggs and Percy on the depth chart.
Are you kidding?

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Size is the most overrated reason for saying a player won't make the NHL.

Yes size can't be taught and it can be very handy to have. But skill is not something that comes easy. And Abbot is very talented, size be damned. Size is becoming an increasingly smaller issue. Yes it can be a detriment to a player. But so is skating to a six foot four player, or hockey sense to any player. It's just an obstacle, not nearly the near unbreakable wall that many make it out to be.

The most common argument against small players is that they can get easily thrown around because they are so small. This is true, but the successful small players know that and play accordingly. They are shifty and are damn near impossible to get a bead on. So yes they can get pushed around, but good luck finding them to do it.

David Desharnais, Brian Gionta, Martin St Louis, Jordan Eberle, Ray Whitney, Visnovsky, Saku Koivu, Timonen, Briere, Cammalleri, Derek Roy, Brad Marchand, Steve Sullivan, Tyler Ennis, Nathan Gerbe.

All player's 5 foot 10 or under who have had success in the NHL. And then you go up one inch and the list grows much larger.

Size needs to stop being this insurmountable obstacle. Small guys regularly make the NHL. That's not going to stop anytime soon. Skill is skill.
Of course, but when your smaller (under 5'11) your skill level HAS to be higher than guys between (6 - 6'3).

If Rocco Grimaldi had the exact same skillset, and was 3 inches taller, he would be a cant miss prospect.

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Of course, but when your smaller (under 5'11) your skill level HAS to be higher than guys between (6 - 6'3).

If Rocco Grimaldi had the exact same skillset, and was 3 inches taller, he would be a cant miss prospect.
And if Paul gaustad had the skill of a guy like Whitney, he'd be one of the best players in the NHL. What's your point?

I don't, and never have, seen any point in pointing out size like its this massive insurmountable obstacle. It's an obstacle no doubt, but so is skill if your a 6 foot 3 guy without any hockey sense. Why size needs to be pointed out more than anything else is beyond me.

And before someone starts talking about me having a size complex and being defensive, I'm actually about the same size as Tyler Myers...

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