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01-19-2013, 09:44 PM
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This prediction is a guarantee to come true.

Maybe he should drink. It might help him take the edge off.


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It's ignoring all the other racist, mean spirited, untrue and egotistical things he says.
So that would mean there would be no content in his posts,eh?

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Well, Obama is officially in for term #2 as President. Why go through all the craziness when, to save money, we just repeat the same task tomorrow, by having it in the White House?

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Well, Obama is officially in for term #2 as President. Why go through all the craziness when, to save money, we just repeat the same task tomorrow, by having it in the White House?
Bread and circuses... the Roman Empire approach.

Now if a few of the Neo-Con Christian Fundamentalist wackos could be put in an arena with hungry lions, I could get on board with that sort of entertainment.

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01-20-2013, 07:51 PM
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5 people shot dead in New Mexico. I see there is no need to have a knee-jerk gun control debate since the death toll wasn't high enough. Hell, NFL Football is more important then moring over the loss of these people killed.

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01-20-2013, 07:52 PM
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Bread and circuses... the Roman Empire approach.

Now if a few of the Neo-Con Christian Fundamentalist wackos could be put in an arena with hungry lions, I could get on board with that sort of entertainment.
Christianphobia at its finest.

Rip to the victims.

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5 people shot dead in New Mexico. I see there is no need to have a knee-jerk gun control debate since the death toll wasn't high enough. Hell, NFL Football is more important then moring over the loss of these people killed.
- Wife burned to death in Chicago
- 2 yr old beaten to death in Chicago
- 86 yr old beat to death with baseball bat in Chicago
- Man stabs Ex-GF cat multiple times and leaves it as surprise for her in apartment in Chicago
- Group of 4 lure and murder 2 guys in Joilet home and attempt to dismember bodies ,, Police found them playing video games in living room at time of arrest in Joilet

I want a soldier/cop on every doorstep and in every hallway


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01-20-2013, 10:07 PM
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- Wife burned to death in Chicago
- 2 yr old beaten to death in Chicago
- 86 yr old beat to death with baseball bat in Chicago

I want a soldier/cop on every doorstep and in every hallway
But what if it's a loose cannon cop on the edge who has a hard time playing by the rules? I want two cops on every corner.

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But what if it's a loose cannon cop on the edge who has a hard time playing by the rules? I want two cops on every corner.
Good point but lets take it further

I want robots to watch over the cops/soldiers and more robots to watch over the robots watching over the soldiers/cops

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01-21-2013, 03:28 AM
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But what if it's a loose cannon cop on the edge who has a hard time playing by the rules? I want two cops on every corner.
What if they're a week away from retirement?

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Good point but lets take it further

I want robots to watch over the cops/soldiers and more robots to watch over the robots watching over the soldiers/cops


Two birds / One stone

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01-21-2013, 07:33 AM
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5 people shot dead in New Mexico. I see there is no need to have a knee-jerk gun control debate since the death toll wasn't high enough. Hell, NFL Football is more important then moring over the loss of these people killed.
There are so many people killed with guns every day that there needs to be more than 5 killed for it to be newsworthy or threadworthy. Speaks volumes about how desensitized we are to gun violence, due to the frequency of such occurrences. How many people need to die before it's no longer considered "knee jerk" to talk about gun control?

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There are so many people killed with guns every day that there needs to be more than 5 killed for it to be newsworthy or threadworthy. Speaks volumes about how desensitized we are to gun violence, due to the frequency of such occurrences. How many people need to die before it's no longer considered "knee jerk" to talk about gun control?
In 2011 there were 32,163 deaths in the US from firearms (11,101 homicides) - an average of 88 per day.

And gun suicides... in 2011 there were 19,766.

And that is just deaths, not injuries by firearms. Firearm injury in the United States has averaged 32,300 deaths annually between 1980 and 2007. It is the second leading cause of injury death after motor vehicle crashes. While the ratio varies, there are an average of five nonfatal firearm injuries for every two firearm deaths.
http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/ficap/reso.../monograph.pdf

And as that study by the University of Pennsylvania, Firearms Research Centrer notes gun control coupled with aggressive enforcement works and they cite New York as an example.
New York City experienced a large increase in the rate of firearm homicides in the late 1980s and early 1990s. After aggressive policing tactics and regulations beginning in 1994 in the City, New York State’s firearm homicide rate is now lower than in the rest of the country.
And the cost both in lives and dollars is staggering.
Two years ago, 30,470 people died from homicides or suicides using firearms, according to data compiled by the CDC. Guns were the most common means of homicides and suicides, the latter of which accounted for nearly two-thirds of the deaths. Suicide by firearm was the leading cause of violence-related injury deaths in 2010, followed by homicides with firearms, the CDC reported. Together, they made up 57 percent of violent deaths.

Gun-related fatalities are on pace to surpass deaths from automobile collisions by 2015, Bloomberg News reported Wednesday.

The CDC attempts to put a price tag on gun violence in an earlier report. Combining the direct medical costs of treating fatal gun injuries with the economic damage of lost lives, firearms-related deaths cost the United States $37 billion in 2005, the most recent year for which a CDC estimate is available. Non-fatal gun injuries cost an additional $3.7 billion that year, according to the agency.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2325706.html


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There are so many people killed with guns every day that there needs to be more than 5 killed for it to be newsworthy or threadworthy. Speaks volumes about how desensitized we are to gun violence, due to the frequency of such occurrences. How many people need to die before it's no longer considered "knee jerk" to talk about gun control?
The only one kinds of debates that should matter on the ones where the people get together after they take the time to do research as that is the best way to get the right solutions in without knee-jerk emotions. Oh and any changes to the Constitution based on what the individual thinks the Constitution should be is off limits.

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The only one kinds of debates that should matter on the ones where the people get together after they take the time to do research as that is the best way to get the right solutions in without knee-jerk emotions. Oh and any changes to the Constitution based on what the individual thinks the Constitution should be is off limits.
They are.

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The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

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The only one kinds of debates that should matter on the ones where the people get together after they take the time to do research as that is the best way to get the right solutions in without knee-jerk emotions. Oh and any changes to the Constitution based on what the individual thinks the Constitution should be is off limits.
We all interpret the Constitution differently. How can you say whose interpretation is right and which should be off limits? I believe in a well regulated right to bear arms.

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When are a majority of 18-29 year old's ever going to get question like this ever right?

This is of course the group of voters that want the government to do more.

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A simple minded response. Can't expect much from Ducks fan in San Jose.

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We all interpret the Constitution wrongly. How can you say whose interpretation is right and which should be off limits? I believe in a well regulated right to bear arms.
Your beliefs for having the United States turned into a dictatorship is not only bad for the country but is also not allowed legally.

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A simple minded response. Can't expect much from Ducks fan in San Jose.



Your beliefs for having the United States turned into a dictatorship is not only bad for the country but is also not allowed legally.


Did you misread what I wrote?

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Did you misread what I wrote?
No he changed what you wrote, and then introduced a straw man argument. Nothing new from him, move along.

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Did you misread what I wrote?
I know what people like you stand for and you're not even honest about your beliefs.

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No he changed what you wrote, and then introduced a straw man argument. Nothing new from him, move along.
blah blah blah

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I know what people like you stand for and you're not even honest about your beliefs.



blah blah blah
That is how I read all of your posts too, so at least we have that in common.

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No he changed what you wrote, and then introduced a straw man argument. Nothing new from him, move along.
A rhetorical device that is also known as "going Full AP".

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/01...-cats-as-pets/

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Banning cats as pets??

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