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01-20-2013, 04:52 PM
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Move em up and use Gaunce as a 3rd in a few years

Playmaking UFA Hodgson Kesler
Jensen Schroeder Burrows
Higgins Gaunce Hansen
Isn't it funny how we always plug in our first rounders into the lineups years down the road. Only a select few every make the jump but that doesn't stop us from penciling Rodin, Schroeder, Sauve, K-Con, Jensen or Gaunce.

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None because we trade them away or don't even play them in the NHL.
I don't get your point then. Who are these Sedin level prospects that the Canucks have stunted by keeping them in the AHL too long?

Not to mention comparing the Canucks of 00-01 to the team now is kind of silly; obviously the former is going to be easier to crack as a raw rookie than the team now.

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jesus once all those nonis/burke players leave this roster will look distgusting

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I'm actually quite glad that hasn't happened. That would be a disaster.

I think all of these issues come out because we keep seeing the team make the same mistakes over and over again, and the most recent situation being the Ebbett over Schroeder selection. Is management really that worried that we would lose this guy who was at the bottom of our ice time last night, that we chose to send down a talented offensive center?
The issue isn't Ebbett vs. Schroeder - it's Barker vs. Schroeder. We have 0 extra forwards right now compared to 3 extra D.

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Isn't it funny how we always plug in our first rounders into the lineups years down the road. Only a select few every make the jump but that doesn't stop us from penciling Rodin, Schroeder, Sauve, K-Con, Jensen or Gaunce.
speaking of sauve, whats going on with him anyways?

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01-20-2013, 05:24 PM
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If talent is roughly the same, you take the player that wants to play in your organization. Seems pretty straight forward.


Kassian is also pretty talented. He hasn't put it together yet, but he's also younger than Hodgson. Have patience.
Something so many here need to learn.

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01-20-2013, 05:25 PM
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Laughton playing a prominent role on Philly. A team that is much deeper at the forward position than Vancouver.

I don't see how Gaunce or Jensen could be any worse than Ebbett, Raymond and the rest of the peanut gallery.

The difference being that the young guys may improve.

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jesus once all those nonis/burke players leave this roster will look distgusting
Thanks heavens Gillis has signed ALL of Nonis' players to great contracts; AND Tanev, Hamhuis, Garrison, & Higgins too. What would we do without Gillis?!

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Something so many here need to learn.
People around here treat Cody like he was Linden and nothing will change their opinion. They'll never like Kassian.

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Laughton playing a prominent role on Philly. A team that is much deeper at the forward position than Vancouver.
Well it's hardly like the forwards there really need to know how to play well defensively or play great *without* the puck. Let's not talk like they've been any more successful lately than the Canucks. No question our scouting department seems to be inferior to most teams - so we're already starting from a position of weakness.

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Comparing him to a goalie is foolish. Anyways, Hodgson was easily our 4th or 5th best forward last year, he had a right to feel like he wanted a bigger role.
Right.....

1 & 2) Sedins
3) Kesler
4) Burrows
5) Higgins
6) Hansen

Our bottom six was been largely trash last season, so it's hardly an accomplishment being as good as any of the remaining guys; I'd argue that Lappy was at worst, an equal.

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01-20-2013, 05:39 PM
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5) Higgins
6) Hansen

Our bottom six was been largely trash last season, so it's hardly an accomplishment being as good as any of the remaining guys; I'd argue that Lappy was at worst, an equal.

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Laugh all you want...I guess it's "goalz....goalz...goalz" that's the only thing important for you. It's the play without the puck that win's you playoff games.

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01-20-2013, 05:43 PM
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The Sedins never played a game in the AHL. We brought them on to the team and despite their struggles we kept them on the team and kept giving them at minimum third line minutes. That's something we don't do with our offensive prospects anymore.
The Sedins joined a Canucks team that had missed the playoffs for four straight seasons and was basically retooling. They were also a unique situation, and 2/3rd overall picks.

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01-20-2013, 05:48 PM
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I don't understand what you're laughing at; they were among our best players last season...

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Laugh all you want...I guess it's "goalz....goalz...goalz" that's the only thing important for you. It's the play without the puck that win's you playoff games.
That's why we won the cup in 2011 right? We couldn't score any goals, but because we had a good forecheck and won faceoffs the league gave us the cup anyways.

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Not to mention, the Sedins were significantly more defensively competent at a younger age

Higgins and Hansen were significantly better than Cody, and I'm a person who thinks the timing was wrong for that trade AND that Hansen is overrated by the fanbase.

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That's why we won the cup in 2011 right?
Jeebus, I'm actually *DEFENDING* your guy

Look at a large number of goals that were scored on Luongo - how many of those were on breakaways or outnumbered situations to due defensive breakdowns....

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I don't understand what you're laughing at; they were among our best players last season...
Higgins and Hansen were certainly not better than Hodgson, and Lappy's not even in the same arena.

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Higgins and Hansen were certainly not better than Hodgson, and Lappy's not even in the same arena.
That's your opinion not a statement of fact. It doesn't happen to agree with mine.

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Higgins and Hansen were certainly not better than Hodgson, and Lappy's not even in the same arena.
Explain why or how.

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Send down Barker, call up Schroeder?

I doubt anyone would claim Barker anyways.

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Could we stop mentioning He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named? Sheesh.

I like Kassian but he needs to play 13 minutes MINIMUM if we're going to figure out what he can do. He's also a power forward, and the bust rate on those is very high. So I think it's going to be awhile - which makes it even more important to be patient with him.

I feel like Kassian is not the kind of guy who will really develop in the minors. His game has a little viciousness in it, and I feel like he's less motivated to be like that in theAHL. That's just my gut instinct.

People have said Schroeder wouldn't have made a difference over Ebbett in last night's game. EXACTLY. If there's no appreciable difference, you develop your guys with upside. That way you get SOMETHING out of it.


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Laughton playing a prominent role on Philly. A team that is much deeper at the forward position than Vancouver.

I don't see how Gaunce or Jensen could be any worse than Ebbett, Raymond and the rest of the peanut gallery.

The difference being that the young guys may improve.
Keep in mind that Laughton is a very good skater. I think that if Jensen wer available he would be up with the big club. Based on my limited viewings of Gaunce, I don't think he is close to NHL ready. His skating needs to improve by a large margin.

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Boy it sure is a good thing we kept up Barker last night instead of Schroeder. Can't wait to see what he does tonight.

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Isn't it funny how we always plug in our first rounders into the lineups years down the road. Only a select few every make the jump but that doesn't stop us from penciling Rodin, Schroeder, Sauve, K-Con, Jensen or Gaunce.
Well it's only been what, 8 years since Schneider was drafted. We've had 1 guy make the team and he managed to stick for a whole half season.

That's pretty good right?

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