GDT: #2 - 01/20/2013 | Pittsburgh Penguins @ New York Rangers | 7:00 PM - MSG, NHL NET

[Florida Ranger]

Yeah, what exactly has Hagelin and Boyle done wrong?

[TriFF51]

Originally Posted by Michael Del Ziti

I'm gonna get flamed, because you guys won't admit it, but Hank is terrible at stopping deflections

Who the hell is good at stopping deflections? You're pretty much helpless when a puck is deflected.

[BlueshirtBlitz]

Originally Posted by Zenith

Lol everyone bashes Boyle when he has done nothing wrong.

Seriously. Guy was fine last game, too.

And here I would have people lead me to believe i'm just a Boyle hater. If i'm a Boyle hater and defending the guy who had a solid game last night and hasn't been awful today, what are half of the people on this board?

[NYRangers723]

its funny how some are so complimentary. We are down 3-1 but hey we are playing better than yesterday lol. Well would hope so because yesterday we played as bad as you can possibly play

[SoftEuro4thLiner]

Originally Posted by Zenith

Lol everyone bashes Boyle when he has done nothing wrong.

Should of scored MOARZ GOLZ. Seriously, we know Boyle is pretty much a black hole offensively. Not the reason we're behind, though.

[Lundsanity30]

Originally Posted by BroadwayBlues

No he's not. You're suppose to put young players in position to succeed. They're not doing that with him.

This is pretty clear. Hagelin has done absolutely nothing to warrant being on the top line the next game.

[MrEctions]

Originally Posted by BlueshirtBlitz

http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm...ate=02/01/2012

When will you guys stop using "short season" as an excuse to act like the ****ing world is ending? Do you remember how bad we looked in the first few weeks of last year? Look at these standings.


Anyway, I don't have faith that we can score 3 goals to get the W right now. Nash looks MUCH better but I just don't think we have the cohesion yet. Would love to be proven wrong.

Agreed completely. You can see the talent in Nash. Some of the control and possession are great, but he passes it off and we fumble it. Happened to Hagelin in the last few mins of that period. Nash came down the middle, maintained control, passed to Hags and he fumbles it away. Im not really worried about the first 7-10 games. Its gonna take time. Bickel needs to go though. Eminger is definitely the superior option there.

[Riverdale]

Originally Posted by BroadwayBlues

No he's not. You're suppose to put young players in position to succeed. They're not doing that with him.

Yup. Need to move him up

[JCresty]

Why do we not play Emmy? He's been solid and reliable most of the time and has a lot more potential than Bickel. What is Torts' insistence on Bickel?

[WhipNash27]

Stopping a deflection is 50% luck and 50% reflexes. No skill can help a goalie stop a deflection.

[Machinehead]

Originally Posted by Lundsanity30

McD and Girardi had to play 9,999,999 minutes the last month of the season. The way the Rangers play, they WILL wear down as the season goes.

They have to play that much because it's becoming evident that they're our only pairing. Staal has been Bickel-like thus far.

[Parker McDonald]

Does that guy's jersey really say FLUFFHEAD on the back?

And yeah, Eminger should definitely be playing over Bickel.

[Lundsanity30]

Originally Posted by Ranger de FLA

Yeah, what exactly has Hagelin and Boyle done wrong?

can't control the puck, can't pass the puck (most of them can't right now) come to mind.

[NashtyAttack]

Originally Posted by Ranger de FLA

Yeah, what exactly has Hagelin and Boyle done wrong?

They haven't equaled their scoring production from last season in 4 periods.

[BlueshirtBlitz]

Originally Posted by Machinehead

They have to play that much because it's becoming evident that they're our only pairing. Staal has been Bickel-like thus far.

Disagree.

Girardi was terrible in the last month of the season and adequate in the playoffs.

Really, we have 2 pairings...but MDZ can't play with Staal, Stralman has **** the bed so far, and Bickel is the worst player in the NHL.

[Florida Ranger]

When are the Fire Torts threads going to pop up?

[Fitzy]

Originally Posted by JCresty

Why do we not play Emmy? He's been solid and reliable most of the time and has a lot more potential than Bickel. What is Torts' insistence on Bickel?

If I had to guess, it would have to do with Eminger looking weak at the start of the year. He struggled in the preseason both prior years he was with us. I think he may be more of a diesel engine.

[Punxrocknyc19]

Originally Posted by RGY

Stu Bickel sucks.

id rather have McIlrath learn on the job than have this ECHL player on NYR. it shows the lack of depth, that is for sure

[alvesNYR]

not even the D pairings are making lateral passes tape-to-tape in their own zone yet.

[GetAGoodFeeling]

Boyle is a clumsy oaf but he did have a good clear on the first penalty kill.

[Machinehead]

Hagelin needs to stop trying to be Rick Nash and go back to being Carl Hagelin. He's been way too cute.

Let's leave the ankle breaking and inside out passes to the guys who can actually do it.

[bubba5]

Originally Posted by Ranger de FLA

Yeah, what exactly has Hagelin and Boyle done wrong?

Yeah. Other than being the slowest skater on the ice Boyle has done nothing wrong. Where is Peggy Fleming when you need her!

[segmentation fault]

I know we are only 4 periods into the season but this is really depressing.

[Florida Ranger]

Originally Posted by Lundsanity30

can't control the puck, can't pass the puck (most of them can't right now) come to mind.

Has anyone else besides Nash?

[Lundsanity30]

Originally Posted by Machinehead

They have to play that much because it's becoming evident that they're our only pairing. Staal has been Bickel-like thus far.

Staal will be fine, we both know this. Bickel is useless,. Del Zotto is hit or miss. We really only have 3 capable D men at the moment (Girardi, mcd and staal)