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01-20-2013, 08:05 AM
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Great Tarasenko goals
Another proof that staying in KHL (at least) until 20-22y is great choice.

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01-20-2013, 08:58 AM
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Attendance update by http://www.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/t...me/412353.html (as of 10.01)

I still find it incredible that some KHL teams can fund such rosters when they have an average attendance lower than that of some clubs in the UK. Crazy.

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Is it possible Reyzvikh to become starter if Ramo dont resign next summer? He is getting more and more chance this season.

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01-20-2013, 09:30 AM
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Is it possible Reyzvikh to become starter if Ramo dont resign next summer? He is getting more and more chance this season.
Well going by the Slovan website, it was Ramo that played.

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01-20-2013, 09:39 AM
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Well going by the Slovan website, it was Ramo that played.
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http://hawk.ru/news_view.php?id=809
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01-20-2013, 11:08 AM
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It was sarcasm at the fact that the Slovan website was wrong (Well, the people that wrote the Slovak report that is).

Obviously it is clear that Reyzvikh played....

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01-20-2013, 11:28 AM
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I still find it incredible that some KHL teams can fund such rosters when they have an average attendance lower than that of some clubs in the UK. Crazy.
What's crazy? Attandance revenues are only a small part of the business. You can also ask how TML manage to stay the best business in hockey with the show they deliver as a team. Actually half the NHL teams are below zero with overall revenues. Pro sports teams are and will stay with some exceptions rich ppl's toys who don't really try to earn money with it. More money in Russia means more expensive rosters with better players. Attendance isn't completely irrelevant but isn't a big factor.

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Another proof that staying in KHL (at least) until 20-22y is great choice.
Yemelin's 6 hits aren't bad either. There is enough evidence for the kids, they just need to see it and be patient.

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Yemelin's 6 hits aren't bad either. There is enough evidence for the kids, they just need to see it and be patient.
And 2 giveaways.. Emelin is exactly the example of a player who probably should have moved to NA earlier as his offensive game obviously improved while staying at Ak Bars but he will never be able to show it at the NHL level.

On the other hand, he obviously collected much bigger paychecks while playing for Ak Bars than he would have had in the AHL.

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01-20-2013, 12:21 PM
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And 2 giveaways.. Emelin is exactly the example of a player who probably should have moved to NA earlier as his offensive game obviously improved while staying at Ak Bars but he will never be able to show it at the NHL level.

On the other hand, he obviously collected much bigger paychecks while playing for Ak Bars than he would have had in the AHL.
2 giveaways isn't aomething to worry about... at all.

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2 giveaways isn't aomething to worry about... at all.
Isn't it? It definitely is if one of them ends up in your team's net. And it's not like Emelin would be high risk/high reward puck moving D, he's supposed to play safe.

Anyway, you nitpicking while missing the point which was about Emelin's development as a player.

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01-20-2013, 01:24 PM
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Is it possible Reyzvikh to become starter if Ramo dont resign next summer? He is getting more and more chance this season.
If KHL won't change their rules, Reizvikh should be a starter starting from the next game until the end of the season because of that foreigner-goalie joke of the rule.

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Isn't it? It definitely is if one of them ends up in your team's net. And it's not like Emelin would be high risk/high reward puck moving D, he's supposed to play safe.

Anyway, you nitpicking while missing the point which was about Emelin's development as a player.
E.Karlsson and D.Byfuglien had 3 giveaways each. Who is nitpicking here? Yemelin is a low risk high reward defenceman the dump/b and chase NHL is not able to use properly.

You are missing the point not seeing how I'm nailing the point in case of Yemelin who only decided to go to the NHL after a bunch of successful seasons home. And if somehow the coaching staff in Montreal realizes(I'm not expecting it from NHL coaches judging a russian) what kind of player they have on their hands they'd get the high reward they are currently giving up for an all so needed physical presence in Montreal.

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01-20-2013, 01:34 PM
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If KHL won't change their rules, Reizvikh should be a starter starting from the next game until the end of the season because of that foreigner-goalie joke of the rule.
Why are you complaining about this rule? You are given all the benefits in the KHL with russian teams competeing against alll the foreigners on non-russian teams. This is a good rule. And all the short sighted talk about lifting all limitations in the KHL is just... well short sighted.

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01-20-2013, 01:53 PM
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Why are you complaining about this rule? You are given all the benefits in the KHL with russian teams competeing against alll the foreigners on non-russian teams. This is a good rule. And all the short sighted talk about lifting all limitations in the KHL is just... well short sighted.
Saying it`s a good rule just because it`s a good rule is no argument.So explain to me and ozo why is it not a stupid rule?


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E.Karlsson and D.Byfuglien had 3 giveaways each. Who is nitpicking here? Yemelin is a low risk high reward defenceman the dump/b and chase NHL is not able to use properly.

You are missing the point not seeing how I'm nailing the point in case of Yemelin who only decided to go to the NHL after a bunch of successful seasons home. And if somehow the coaching staff in Montreal realizes(I'm not expecting it from NHL coaches judging a russian) what kind of player they have on their hands they'd get the high reward they are currently giving up for an all so needed physical presence in Montreal.
Karlsson had 2, Byfuglien 3. But we are talking about Dustin Byfuglien and Erik Karlsson here. They are also known as few of the best and highest scoring offensive defenseman in the world. Emelin.. Not so much.

Dear you say Emelin has more offensive upside than Kaberle, Markov, Diaz or P.K. Subban? That's just not true so I don't really know what do you have in mind when saying about misjudging what kind of player they have. They know it very well

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01-20-2013, 03:55 PM
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Karlsson had 2, Byfuglien 3. But we are talking about Dustin Byfuglien and Erik Karlsson here. They are also known as few of the best and highest scoring offensive defenseman in the world. Emelin.. Not so much.

Dear you say Emelin has more offensive upside than Kaberle, Markov, Diaz or P.K. Subban? That's just not true so I don't really know what do you have in mind when saying about misjudging what kind of player they have. They know it very well
Hahaha, there we go. Just because some hardass NA coaches dont' let him play a single minute on the PP for example he's worse than DB who is by design of the team at least their top 2 offensive D-man and Erik I-am-actually-a-forward Karlsson. Yemelin has tons of offensive upside more than Kaberle and Diaz, maybe equal to Subban, who will become a great all around D-man when he manages to figure out his issues. You just don't seem to know the player we are dicussing here.

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01-20-2013, 04:03 PM
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Saying it`s a good rule just because it`s a good rule is no argument.So explain to me and ozo why is it not a stupid rule?
NHL has no restrictions on goalies. Go through this board to find out what is expected to be the weakest spot on the canadian national team.

The KHL quickly becomes the league with the big money where a lot of managers buy themselves a shiny foreign goalie without properly assesing his talents. If they fail as a team it's their problem, but if they hurt the development of young russian oaltenders with it it's not. Therefore it's a good rule. It forces teams to develop own goaltender prospects. It doesn't forbid them to sign a foreign starter if they want to anyway.

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Yemelin has tons of offensive upside more than Kaberle and Diaz, maybe equal to Subban. You just don't seem to know the player we are dicussing here.
Yeah, ok

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Great Tarasenko goals for the Blues last night
and "mighty CHL route" Grigorenko -1, no points. Another proof....

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and "mighty CHL route" Grigorenko -1, no points. Another proof....
Tarasenko is 21, Grigorenko is 18... pretty big difference but there is no doubt Tarasenko is very talented

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I am 100% sure, that Tarasenko would have succeeded either rout, but it was nice having him in the KHL.

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Jani Nieminen transfer completed from SaiPa to AK Bars. Seems they had to buy out his whole contract and that ended up costing more than 400K euros.

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I LOL every time...I know this kid, he's a die hard fan of Magnitogorsk, every time they play he guarantees victory, and since Malkin, Kulemin and Gonchar have left they are fare and few in between. So every time they loose, and I wanna ask him what happened, he disappears from skype, funny!!!

On a serious note, Ak Bars is scary.

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Jani Nieminen transfer completed from SaiPa to AK Bars. Seems they had to buy out his whole contract and that ended up costing more than 400K euros.
so is that a sign of stupid KHL, mere fact, or thankfulness, that he didn't leave to the NHL as an undrafted FA without compensation?


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