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01-21-2013, 01:16 AM
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Stars 1-0 loss at Wild Recap: Blah blah blah Nilstorp. Blah blah blah Nilstorp. Blah blah blah ooh! MiniMo, ouch. Blah blah blah Nilstorp.
Sums it up..

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01-21-2013, 02:24 AM
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I think Stars looked decent and they were 1-2 goals from having a great road game. After all they didn't let Wild to have an easy game.
We must have been watching a different game. I thought the Stars, save for the goalie position, looked anything but decent and despite the score were not in control of whether the Wild had an easy game or not.

1-2 goals might have earned the Stars a win, but in no way would that made this a great road game.

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We must have been watching a different game. I thought the Stars, save for the goalie position, looked anything but decent and despite the score were not in control of whether the Wild had an easy game or not.

1-2 goals might have earned the Stars a win, but in no way would that made this a great road game.
This. Throw it in with all of the games from last season, and it might be the worst one of the bunch.

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01-21-2013, 03:22 AM
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This. Throw it in with all of the games from last season, and it might be the worst one of the bunch.
Are you talking about all the back ends of a b2b from last year?

Cause I can think of 3 or 4 games that were worse than this one, out of the 15 you'd be including....with one of them being against Minnesota.

Outside of one or two, were completely out played in every single one of them (including last night).

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01-21-2013, 06:00 AM
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Goalie situation looks good for Dallas with current competition going on between Lehtonen and Nihlstorp. I kind of expected this to become Lehtonens break out season but Nihlstorp is looking surprisingly good, as a Swede I like this. ;-)

Wandell you can send back to Sweden or AHL though, simply not good enough for the NHL right now.

>I wish Nemeth to make his NHL debute soon. Nemeth is a very promising defensive specialist, something like Grossman and Norstrom. Not flashy but every team needs big and strong defensive minded specialists like these guys. Norstrom is in AIK management now, the Stockholm team which Nemeth played for in Sweden. I'm sure Norstrom has been given Nemeth some valuable advices.

Nemeth looks like adjusting to North American style quickly? 11 assist in 37 games and 13 in +/- stats. Nemeth is the kind of player who will only gets better. Personally I think his way of playing is made for North America and smaller rinks.

11 assists in 37 games is ok for a defensive shut down player Nemeth (better than I expected), leading the team in +/- is fully expected though.

I'm not sure what's going on though, perhaps the coaches in Texas Stars discovered some deeply hidden talent and are trying to work on his offensive play before sending him to Dallas. ;-)

Also Nemeth is the kind of player giving 100% and playing with heart. Sweden wouldn't have won the WJC gold without Nemeth, that's for sure. In the final vs Russia he was on fire.

Nemeth dealing with Finns during WJC 2012, clearly on a mission. ;-)


Nemeth decided it was time for winning the WJC final, look at the offensive work of shutdown d-man #12 before the goal. I remeber this... screaming... "Patrik, what the hell are you doing!", not use seeing him in the offensive zone much. ;-)


Nemeth also like annoying his opponents and trash talking. Nemeth smashing Russian matryoshka dolls on national TV before the game was a bit over the limit though, causing headlines all over the world. ;-) 1:36 in this clip.
http://www.aftonbladet.se/webbtv/spo...cle14171117.ab

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http://www2.canada.com/sports/world+...tml?id=5948000


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01-21-2013, 08:35 AM
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^We all know the value of Nemeth. He struggled early in the AHL this year and doensn't look as NHL ready as Oleksiak or Dillon. He still is tentative with his decision making and needs some more seasoning. Probably the rest of the year in the AHL.

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01-21-2013, 08:48 AM
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^We all know the value of Nemeth. He struggled early in the AHL this year and doensn't look as NHL ready as Oleksiak or Dillon. He still is tentative with his decision making and needs some more seasoning. Probably the rest of the year in the AHL.
He struggled early beginning of the season but now he is looking fine, right? Leading the team in +/- is not that bad for a young European rookie never having played in North America.

I believed he has stepped up big time the last month or so?

Also 11 assist in 37 games is pretty good for being a big, physical defensive shut down specialist like Nemeth. ;-)

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01-21-2013, 10:07 AM
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Most of us hope Nemeth is more along the lines of a big two-way defenseman with a slant toward the defensive side of things than a defensive specialist. Him getting more time in the AHL to get valuable playing time and added responsibility isn't a bad thing. He could probably do fine in the NHL right now but my feeling is that he would be better served playing more minutes and (hopefully) some PP time in the AHL this season. I imagine he'll be close to a full time NHL player next season. All in good time.

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01-21-2013, 10:26 AM
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Most of us hope Nemeth is more along the lines of a big two-way defenseman with a slant toward the defensive side of things than a defensive specialist.
Ok, anything can happen, I remember Larry Robinson changing Johnny Oduya completely in New Jersey. In Sweden Oduya was a goon (fighting a lot) and a defensive specialist.

I don't recall Oduya fighting more than once in the NHL and he is playing more offensively than he ever did in Sweden, playing a polished game these days in Chicago.

It it's possible making a offensive player out of Oduya than anything is possible. ;-)

Perhaps the coaches in Texas Rangers can bring out some offense from Nemeth too, we'll have too wait and see. 11 assists in 37 games looks promising (for being Nemeth).

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01-21-2013, 11:03 AM
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If it's like last year, they're trying this idiotic "fans vote for the 3 stars" thing at the X, which is irritating because they're usually way behind (since the voting has to be done before the end of the game) and usually just wrong anyway. Nilstorp was an obvious choice for the 3rd star.
I was there last night, and don't remember seeing anything about voting for the three stars.

Also, I wasn't paying really close attention to the announcement, but I don't think Clutterbuck was the third star in the building. I can't think of who it was, so I could be wrong, but I don't remember it being him..

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wow this thread seems full of overreactions
This.

I don't know if it came across on the TV broadcast, but the Stars were in control for much of that game. The defense was efficient and only rarely let the Wild have any meaningful time in the zone. The Stars would control the puck for 5 minutes, then the Wild would get one or two possessions in the zone. The Stars lost because they couldn't kill what was effectively a 4 on 2 situation.

My only complaint is that even with all the possession time, they didn't seem to create much in the way of high-quality chances (duh, otherwise they would've scored).

Another comment... I wonder if something was going on with Jagr. Sick or something maybe.. It seems like he was short-shifted a bunch. Loui and Roy would stay out for a full shift, but it seemed like 68 would only be out there for the first half of it..

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01-21-2013, 11:47 AM
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I feel we watched completely different games. The Stars didn't control anything last night. At times they really struggled getting out of their own zone. Couldn't make that extra pass or skate it into Minnesota ice or when they finally did go on offense sputtered and miscued perpetually.

The Wild dominated that game and dictated where it would be played which was on the perimeter. Bad passes and an inability to generate offense is what the Stars showed.

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I feel we watched completely different games. The Stars didn't control anything last night. At times they really struggled getting out of their own zone. Couldn't make that extra pass or skate it into Minnesota ice or when they finally did go on offense sputtered and miscued perpetually.

The Wild dominated that game and dictated where it would be played which was on the perimeter. Bad passes and an inability to generate offense is what the Stars showed.
Maybe in the excitement of getting green jerseys back, you were watching the team dressed in green last night?

My seats were in the end where the Stars shot twice. By far, the majority of the action was in front of us in the 1st period, and in the other end during the 2nd. Even the Wild fans around us agreed about that. In the 3rd, it evened out quite a bit. Our D was generally in good position, but they did make a few mistakes that Nilsthorp (??) covered up (amazingly well).

I don't see why the fans need to be freaking out to this degree and talking about who to blame after the 2nd game of the season. The Stars - without their best skater and #1 goaltender - were a shot/bounce or two away from beating a very good team. Granted, we were a shot/bounce or two away from losing 4-0, as well, but the other team is trying to win too.

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I don't know if it came across on the TV broadcast, but the Stars were in control for much of that game. The defense was efficient and only rarely let the Wild have any meaningful time in the zone. The Stars would control the puck for 5 minutes, then the Wild would get one or two possessions in the zone. The Stars lost because they couldn't kill what was effectively a 4 on 2 situation
Whaaaaat?

They might have had zone time but they had prime scoring chances a lot last night. Only reason it wasn't 4 or 5-0 was because of Nilstorp.

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From a Wild fan....Nilstorp was amazing. Good game.

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Whaaaaat?

They might have had zone time but they had prime scoring chances a lot last night. Only reason it wasn't 4 or 5-0 was because of Nilstorp.
Yes, there were a few slipups and a few prime chances for the Wild. But in general, the D was able to limit their zone time pretty well. No (or not many) long, extended shifts.

Don't get me wrong, the Stars D is certainly not a strength. It needs improvement. But as the team is currently built, wins for the Stars this year will have to come from forward scoring and goaltending. The D is going to just have to hang in there and do what they can. They did that last night. They played well enough to win, but we couldn't get a puck across the line.

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How has Roy looked so far?

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How has Roy looked so far?
Well nhl.com isn't working for whatever reason so I can't get the exact numbers, but he's been a refreshing improvement to our faceoff struggles. And he's done quite well in Benn's absence, centering Eriksson and Jagr.

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Great on faceoffs. Looks fresh. Missing the net a ton, though.

I like him so far.

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Jagr and Whitney were not impressive but they were the best forwards in the game for Dallas. Jagr created a few chances and hit the post himself.

He had a terrible penalty though that eventually led to the Minnesota goal.

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How has Roy looked so far?
As mentioned he's been a boon to our faceoff situation and is generally the only skill center we have on the roster at the moment worthy of playing with Eriksson, Jagr, Whitney, or Ryder. Once we get Benn in the mix I think Roy will really shine as other teams have to choose which top line they will key in on. I imagine that will be Benn's line most nights but as long as our 40 year olds hold up physically we have what I consider lines 1A and 1B.

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