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LW Dmitrij Jaskin (2011, 41st overall, St. Louis)

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01-19-2013, 04:46 PM
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Yeah, Ponder, the Bertuzzi comment I meant as top-end if everything comes together. Hitchcock recently said in an interview that his style of play reminds him a lot of Jagr. He's not saying he's going to become Jagr, just style. I see him as being quite physical but yeah, Bertuzzi physically was a wrecking ball for such a big man. I see it more with their hands.

With Jaskin though I think it all comes down to confidence. He lost a lot last year being stuck on a 4th line and battling injuries in CZE and now after getting to play his game you can see he's getting more and more confident each game. I think these last 25-30 games Jaskin is going to have more and more people talking about him and noticing him.

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01-19-2013, 04:52 PM
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01-19-2013, 05:02 PM
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He's clearly the best Q player this season. He shouldn't play junior and could probably play a regular role in the NHL.

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01-19-2013, 05:09 PM
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Pretty much all Blues fans figured he'd probably still need at least a year in the AHL before being NHL ready. I still think that would be the best route to take but if he was ready in camp, what a great problem to have.

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01-19-2013, 05:20 PM
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Pretty much all Blues fans figured he'd probably still need at least a year in the AHL before being NHL ready. I still think that would be the best route to take but if he was ready in camp, what a great problem to have.
If Grigorenko is NHL ready, Jaskin as well for sure.

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01-19-2013, 05:26 PM
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Misleading thread title.
This. Thought he was actually on fire.

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01-19-2013, 05:55 PM
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Danny Flynn has him pegged as a Marian Hossa 2.0 but I see some Jagr 2.0 in him. Best player in the QMJHL. He'll have no problem transitioning to the AHL/NHL. I can see him in the NHL as soon as next season if not , for sure the 2014-15 season. He can do it all. He's a power forward that's almost impossible to knock off the puck. He shelters himself and never gets stripped. Not a perimeter player at all , he goes through his oppoenents. Lethal shot , dead on accuracy but also an elite passer/playmaker. Finishes hit checks and punishes his opponents with brute force. Dmitri carries his work ethic into the locker room as well and is usually the first to hit the ice and gym and last to leave. He makes players around him look good. Very bright future and was a steal in the 2nd round for the Blues'!

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01-19-2013, 06:31 PM
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Very nice, Wildcat. That's what I'm seeing as well, but obviously not locally but through family. Hitchcock said he reminds him of Jagr like I said before. That's very high praise, especially coming from Hitchcock who is generally careful talking about prospects. But the one's he really likes you can tell...and that is Tarasenko, Schwartz and now Jaskin. He seems high on Rattie but I think he really likes Jaskin. Puck control I can see some Jagr and I'm shocked when I see some passing plays he generates. But he's far more physical than Jagr and that's why I thought Bertuzzi was maybe a good comparison based on size and puck skills while being physical. Anyhow, great analysis.

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01-19-2013, 06:43 PM
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Just checked his game by game breakdown... After 'only' racking up 20 points in his first 17 games through to the end of October (NA adjustment period?) he has gone on to pick up 43 points in his last 17 games. I am sure people will scold me for 'stat watching' but I dare say at this point in his career he has outgrown playing in juniors.

Also count me in the group that is relieved to find out he is only fuguratively and not literally on fire.

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01-20-2013, 06:37 PM
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Too many players put up big numbers in juniors but as pro its different.

Everybody was thrilled about Etem, McKegg, Toffoli etc but its not that easy in the AHL, let alone that a player should be in the NHL. The ultimate step.

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01-20-2013, 06:53 PM
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Too many players put up big numbers in juniors but as pro its different.

Everybody was thrilled about Etem, McKegg, Toffoli etc but its not that easy in the AHL, let alone that a player should be in the NHL. The ultimate step.
It's not just the points. He looks like a man amongst boys. He was excellent as well at the WJC.

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01-20-2013, 07:49 PM
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Too many players put up big numbers in juniors but as pro its different.

Everybody was thrilled about Etem, McKegg, Toffoli etc but its not that easy in the AHL, let alone that a player should be in the NHL. The ultimate step.
Jaskin is ahead of all those guys in his game. He scores, back checks, uses his body and skates well. He doesn't have any of the noticeable flaws that the prospects you mentioned have.

If Jaskin is this good, I shutter to think about what Hertl could do in junior hockey. I think he'd break every record out there. Anyways, St. Louis and San Jose have very good prospects in these young Czech's. Should be fun to watch in the NHL.

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thought the guy was literally on fire when I clicked this thread.

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01-20-2013, 08:13 PM
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I see him as a good 2nd liner or average 1st liner.

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Jaskin is ahead of all those guys in his game. He scores, back checks, uses his body and skates well. He doesn't have any of the noticeable flaws that the prospects you mentioned have.
Oh cool, why didnt you become scout.

I dont give crap about your opinion and no flaws argument. If you dont mind. I would like to see it first.

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01-21-2013, 04:19 AM
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Oh cool, why didnt you become scout.

I dont give crap about your opinion and no flaws argument. If you dont mind. I would like to see it first.

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01-21-2013, 04:37 AM
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Oh cool, why didnt you become scout.

I dont give crap about your opinion and no flaws argument. If you dont mind. I would like to see it first.
Then watch a Wildcats game.

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Then watch a Wildcats game.
To see he would not be out of place in the NHL or that he is a good prospect ?

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01-21-2013, 04:56 AM
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To see he would not be out of place in the NHL or that he is a good prospect ?
Whatever you meant by "I would like to see it first". He's a pretty impressive player. I don't think he's NHL ready right now, or will be for the 13-14 season, but if he has a good season in the AHL, I could see him in St. Louis for the 14-15 season.

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Whatever you meant by "I would like to see it first". He's a pretty impressive player. I don't think he's NHL ready right now, or will be for the 13-14 season, but if he has a good season in the AHL, I could see him in St. Louis for the 14-15 season.
Than I dont understand what the problem is.

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01-21-2013, 05:08 AM
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Than I dont understand what the problem is. I think I was clear.
You were pretty clear in saying "I would like to see it first". No reason you can't see "it".

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been following him on the internet for a while... have never seen him play live... whos a good nhl comparison??

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You were pretty clear in saying "I would like to see it first". No reason you can't see "it".
Yes that not every promising prospect is ready for the NHL because he's scoring a ton of goals in juniors, yes.

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I see him as a good 2nd liner or average 1st liner.
Well that's perfect for the Blues' three 2nd lines then, isn't it?

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