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01-07-2013, 02:03 PM
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Anyone know anything about MARK 453? It's y first upper level MB class. Trying to get a feel for what I'm to expect.

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01-07-2013, 07:04 PM
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stupid question , anybody can rank the universities close to the MTL area as far as mathematics/physics goes?

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01-08-2013, 09:47 AM
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stupid question , anybody can rank the universities close to the MTL area as far as mathematics/physics goes?

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Undergraduate or graduate? If the latter, please indicate what you intend to specialize in. Francophone or anglophone program?

Undergraduate physics:

1. U Montreal (even if you elected to go there for a physics major you'd still be doing honors-level coursework, only you have less courses to take; then again, my professors, some of which collaborate with the other two schools, may be a little biased)/McGill (honors)
2. McGill (major; you'll be then covering less material than in the Honors program)
3. Concordia (the undergraduate program is far worse than the other 2)

There really are two tiers of universities with respect to undergraduate mathematics in Montreal:

-U Montreal and McGill on top
-Concordia and UQAM below

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Anyone has the ACCO320 or ACCO330 question banks?

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01-19-2013, 09:30 AM
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Get the new office (professional edition) for 11$!!!

I just did this (JMSB student) and it worked! I bet it will work for McGill and all you other ppl:

1. http://www.microsofthup.com/hupca/ho...?culture=en-CA

2. Press "Dont know my program code"

3. Enter your university e-mail address (@jmsb.concordia.ca works)

4. Get Microsoft Office 2013 Pro Plus for only 11$ !!!!

VALID FOR MAC AND WINDOWS!


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01-19-2013, 09:48 AM
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Get the new office (professional edition) for 11$!!!

I just did this (JMSB student) and it worked! I bet it will work for McGill and all you other ppl:

1. http://www.microsofthup.com/hupca/ho...?culture=en-CA

2. Press "Dont know my program code"

3. Enter your university e-mail address (@jmsb.concordia.ca works)

4. Get Microsoft Office 2013 Pro Plus for only 11$ !!!!

VALID FOR MAC AND WINDOWS!
Only need the school email? If so, I might as well grab it...

EDIT: @mail.mcgill.ca didn't work for me.

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01-19-2013, 09:49 AM
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Only need the school email? If so, I might as well grab it...
Yup, they send you a link where you can finish the purchase (if the address is valid).

EDIT: Apparently @mail.mcgill.ca doesn't work...

@umontreal.ca works
@hec.ca works
uqam doesnt work


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@polymtl.ca doesn't seem to work either. Boo.

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01-21-2013, 07:56 AM
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So this is how Dawson College deals with whistle blowers?

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/01...personal-data/

Wanted to bring attention to something I'm very disappointed by.
I'm pretty shocked by the faculty's decision to expel the student...
Sounds like a cover up to me.

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Sounds like it.. but I would like to hear Dawson's story on this.. They may have a different definition of what he was really trying to do..

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01-21-2013, 09:32 AM
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Wanted to bring attention to something I'm very disappointed by.
I'm pretty shocked by the faculty's decision to expel the student...
Sounds like a cover up to me.
I'm still reading around the articles about this in order to get a good understanding of what happened, but as of now, I'm far from convinced that Dawson is wrong in all this. The kid run a vulnerability scanner on a school system, signed a non-disclosure agreement about it, and then proceed to break this agreement through media interviews. Not very bright.

Also, he's not a whistleblower in the normal definition of the term. He's not a school employee under a confidentiality agreement. Nothing illegal was done by Dawson or Skytech for him to whistleblow.

Sad story because it seems he's a good kid with a good future, but scanning a network you don't own is just wrong. We aren't in the 90' anymore, and he should have known better.

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01-21-2013, 09:34 AM
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Wanted to bring attention to something I'm very disappointed by.
I'm pretty shocked by the faculty's decision to expel the student...
Sounds like a cover up to me.
thats pretty stupid from Skytech too.

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01-21-2013, 09:38 AM
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I'm still reading around the articles about this in order to get a good understanding of what happened, but as of now, I'm far from convinced that Dawson is wrong in all this. The kid run a vulnerability scanner on a school system, signed a non-disclosure agreement about it, and then proceed to break this agreement through media interviews. Not very bright.

Also, he's not a whistleblower in the normal definition of the term. He's not a school employee under a confidentiality agreement. Nothing illegal was done by Dawson or Skytech for him to whistleblow.

Sad story because it seems he's a good kid with a good future, but scanning a network you don't own is just wrong. We aren't in the 90' anymore, and he should have known better.
He never should've signed that agreement IMO, there were no malicious intentions at all.

Skytech and Dawson are just trying to protect their respective *****, nothing else and this kid could end up with no career at all for something so petty.

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01-21-2013, 09:44 AM
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I'm still reading around the articles about this in order to get a good understanding of what happened, but as of now, I'm far from convinced that Dawson is wrong in all this. The kid run a vulnerability scanner on a school system, signed a non-disclosure agreement about it, and then proceed to break this agreement through media interviews. Not very bright.

Also, he's not a whistleblower in the normal definition of the term. He's not a school employee under a confidentiality agreement. Nothing illegal was done by Dawson or Skytech for him to whistleblow.

Sad story because it seems he's a good kid with a good future, but scanning a network you don't own is just wrong. We aren't in the 90' anymore, and he should have known better.
the Way I understood is

1. Ahmed discover Flaw
2. Talks to Dawson.
3. Dawson talks to Skytech.

2 Days later

4. Ahmed Scans to see if system solved
5. Skytech Calls Ahmed
6. Ahmed and Skytech Get an agreement.
7. Dawson call Ahmed for a meeting
8. Dawson vote to expell him

Dawson is in Right to expell him. however, there was no malicious intention in it, It was wrong what he did though. A warning should've been enough IMO.

Its like one Day, I got a ticket for an Illegal U-turn on a snowy day after losing control of the car on a two way street . I managed to get on the other line instead of the Ditch.

By the law, I did an illegal U-turn

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the Way I understood is

1. Ahmed discover Flaw
2. Talks to Dawson.
3. Dawson talks to Skytech.

2 Days later

4. Ahmed Scans to see if system solved
5. Skytech Calls Ahmed
6. Ahmed and Skytech Get an agreement.
7. Dawson call Ahmed for a meeting
8. Dawson vote to expell him
That's pretty much how I understand it too.
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Dawson is in Right to expell him. however, there was no malicious intention in it, It was wrong what he did though. A warning should've been enough IMO.
I tend to agree, but since we don't know the details, it's hard to say. 14 out of 15 teachers voted to expel him, this doesn't seem like a bureaucratic decision. My guess is that there's more to it than reported. Maybe he got asked to stay away from the issue after meeting with Dawson for the first time, and that's why they were pissed when he didn't.

Also, 2 days to fix a vulnerability, especially when this vulnerability is from a third-party software, is ridiculously low. Of course the flaw wasn't fixed after just two days.

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I guess a comparison would be a guy who went up and down your street trying to break into your homes to see if they are "safe". He had no malicious intent and did so out of curiosity. How many people wouldn't be pissed in such a situation?

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I guess a comparison would be a guy who went up and down your street trying to break into your homes to see if they are "safe". He had no malicious intent and did so out of curiosity. How many people wouldn't be pissed in such a situation?
He didn't technically "break in." The door was open hence the whole "flaw" idea.

I really hope another college picks him up or he gets hired.

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01-21-2013, 07:23 PM
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What kind of... IT security job would the guy land?

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Good. Omnivox is crap.

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01-21-2013, 09:11 PM
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What kind of... IT security job would the guy land?
Contrary to popular belief, being an ex hacker isn't a ticket to an infosec job. It can be in some circumstances - for vulnerabilities researchers or penetration testers for example. But that's the minority of the job market. And for what I understand, the guy basically modified URLs - not exactly an impressive feat.

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Hey guys, what are your thoughts on a Double-Dec? I really am not big on working, not a big fan of school in general and homework, but I want to go to Uni for sure.

Would be a Double Dec in Human Sciences (Commerce Option) @ Vanier, but I'm not too keen on the 3 year really charged and work-packed schedule that apparently comes with it. My whole highschool I've had 60%, and this year (Sec 5) my average is around 83. So I could get in to that Double Dec program (250 spots) pretty easily with my recent results, but am not sure its something ill enjoy, especially if it really is heavy


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Depends on what you want to apply to in University. If it's something where there's very few places available, then the advantage could be worth it. If not, meh.

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Depends on what you want to apply to in University. If it's something where there's very few places available, then the advantage could be worth it. If not, meh.
Still am not sure yet. Thats why some way the Double Dec makes sense, as it keeps a lot of doors open. But that is also why I'm taking the commerce option, to see if it is something I'd enjoy doing in university.

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Still am not sure yet. Thats why some way the Double Dec makes sense, as it keeps a lot of doors open. But that is also why I'm taking the commerce option, to see if it is something I'd enjoy doing in university.
Why not just a 3 year program with some hands on technical skill? Might be a good backup and provide a career or extra job opportunities for summer while in Uni.

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Why not just a 3 year program with some hands on technical skill? Might be a good backup and provide a career or extra job opportunities for summer while in Uni.
Not sure. Don't know if I'll want to work until I'm done with studies. I'm the kind of guy that likes focusing on one thing at a time. Money isn't really an issue for my family, so I don't really see the utility in getting a job during school time. [Unless if it is to gain experience in the field I want to possibly adventure in, which seems to be what you are suggesting. In that case, that might be an interesting option] The thing though is, While I know it is normal to have people in CEGEP 3-4 Years older than you in your classes, I just feel weird about the fact that I'm 1 year older than everyone in my year [Had to go to Immersion classes eventhough my Mom was French Canadian, lived in Asia for a bit]

Something tells me that if a 3 year program might be too heavy for me if its really work-consuming. I'ma go see the councelor soon to see any if any alternatives are possible with a similar course. Just was wondering what your guys' POV on Double DEC's were

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