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01-21-2013, 08:04 PM
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Is Halpern a bust already?
He isn't. He has played well actually. He has been good on the faceoff dot, has looked ok killing penalties, and hes skating good.

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01-21-2013, 09:32 PM
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I would try to trade Subban for Del Zotto or maybe try and offer a package excluding MDZ.
A right handed dman like that would add so much for the team.

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01-21-2013, 09:37 PM
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I would try to trade Subban for Del Zotto or maybe try and offer a package excluding MDZ.
A right handed dman like that would add so much for the team.
Habs would want to get us back for the Gomez trade. they would want Lundqvist ... PK is good but overrated. he would be the whipping boy here..

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01-21-2013, 09:40 PM
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Habs would want to get us back for the Gomez trade. they would want Lundqvist ... PK is good but overrated. he would be the whipping boy here..
My point is he'd be likely cheaper now, he isn't signed.

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01-21-2013, 09:43 PM
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My point is he'd be likely cheaper now, he isn't signed.
And we don't have the cap space next year to sign him. You'd have to say goodbye to McD, Stepan, or Hagelin next summer. He's looking for a long-term contract.

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01-21-2013, 09:48 PM
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And we don't have the cap space next year to sign him. You'd have to say goodbye to McD, Stepan, or Hagelin next summer. He's looking for a long-term contract.

I'd gladly say bye to Hagelin if it gets us Subban and we never have to see Bickel play again. Frankly, if we could package say Hagelin+

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01-21-2013, 10:06 PM
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I'd gladly say bye to Hagelin if it gets us Subban and we never have to see Bickel play again. Frankly, if we could package say Hagelin+
That's nice and all, but I would be very concerned with our forward depth if that was the case. Don't get me wrong, I love Subban, but we can't trade forwards for defensemen at this time, IMO. Not until Miller, Fast, Lindberg prove that they're ready.

I would trade MDZ for him, but he would most likely want a long term contract, which means more cap space taken up. And we would definitely have to add something significant to the deal.

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01-21-2013, 10:14 PM
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That's nice and all, but I would be very concerned with our forward depth if that was the case. Don't get me wrong, I love Subban, but we can't trade forwards for defensemen at this time, IMO. Not until Miller, Fast, Lindberg prove that they're ready.

I would trade MDZ for him, but he would most likely want a long term contract, which means more cap space taken up. And we would definitely have to add something significant to the deal.
I feel like this completely defeats the point of acquiring Subban.

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01-21-2013, 10:23 PM
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I feel like this completely defeats the point of acquiring Subban.
Subban's a righty. Top 4 of a combo of McD or Staal-Subban or Girardi? Yes Please.

Makes the left point on the PP dangerous. He can get the puck to the net. I like DZ, but he isn't exactly the best at getting it to the net. Subban knows what a one-timer is. Most of our PP guys don't. The only thing is that maybe, our transition game would be affected negatively, but let's be honest here-it can't get much worse.

And we can troll Habs fans and show them what a McD-Subban pairing could have looked like.

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01-21-2013, 10:25 PM
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Subban for Del Zotto, but your 3rd pair is Bickel-Gilroy. Terribad.

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01-21-2013, 10:28 PM
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Subban for Del Zotto, but your 3rd pair is Bickel-Gilroy. Terribad.
Yeah. Thought about that. If we think the 3rd is a mess now....

Trade some picks for some actual #6 defensemen? Douglas Murray?

Shoot Bickel out of the Columbus cannon?

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01-21-2013, 10:33 PM
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Subban for Del Zotto, but your 3rd pair is Bickel-Gilroy. Terribad.
That's why the trade makes no sense. One of our biggest problems last year was the discrepancy between the ice time our #1 D and #6 got.

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Yeah. Thought about that. If we think the 3rd is a mess now....

Trade some picks for some actual #6 defensemen? Douglas Murray?

Shoot Bickel out of the Columbus cannon?
I actually would rather target Jason Demers from San Jose. RH PMD who played well overseas this year. I think he would be the perfect guy on the 3rd pairing and I think Hagelin straight up for him would be decent for both sides. San Jose needs some speed in their top 6, which is what Hags epitomizes. I would hate losing him since he's such a promising player, but you've got to give to get. Then you replace Hagelin with Hrivik or trade for a rental like Ponikarovsky as you mentioned. Although I wrote down Hrivink just based on the fact that he's Slovak to play on the same line with Gabby.

Nash-Richards-Callahan
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01-21-2013, 10:53 PM
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I actually would rather target Jason Demers from San Jose. RH PMD who played well overseas this year. I think he would be the perfect guy on the 3rd pairing and I think Hagelin straight up for him would be decent for both sides. San Jose needs some speed in their top 6, which is what Hags epitomizes. I would hate losing him since he's such a promising player, but you've got to give to get. Then you replace Hagelin with Hrivik or trade for a rental like Ponikarovsky as you mentioned. Although I wrote down Hrivink just based on the fact that he's Slovak to play on the same line with Gabby.

Nash-Richards-Callahan
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McDonagh-Girardi
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Interesting. Could work. How is Demers' defensive game? Never like 2 PMD's on the same pairing.

And your dolphin has officially gotten to me. Creepy.

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01-21-2013, 10:55 PM
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is subban signed? havent followed wouldnt it be easier to offer sheet him

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01-21-2013, 10:57 PM
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is subban signed? havent followed wouldnt it be easier to offer sheet him
No, and no.

What if McD holds out next summer? Do you want the Habs to offersheet him?

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01-21-2013, 10:59 PM
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Interesting. Could work. How is Demers' defensive game? Never like 2 PMD's on the same pairing.

And your dolphin has officially gotten to me. Creepy.
I don't think Demers is a liability, but he definitely isn't a defensive stalwart. He'll get burned pinching offensively like most PMD do. I think as long as he can carry the puck out of our own zone, he should be able to play 20 minutes a night and help our embarrassing transition game.

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Weren't you one of the guys who thought that Halperin would be a good addition?
He has been. Halpern's skated well, has been good on faceoffs and a solid PKer. Don't even know why that was brought up. Seems like you're bringing it up because you have nothing to counter with other than "SIZE FIGHTING", as usual.

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01-21-2013, 11:08 PM
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I don't think Demers is a liability, but he definitely isn't a defensive stalwart. He'll get burned pinching offensively like most PMD do. I think as long as he can carry the puck out of our own zone, he should be able to play 20 minutes a night and help our embarrassing transition game.
I like it then. Just as long as we get a LW to replace Hags.

But I would really like Hags to play in our bottom 6 and inject some speed there. He and Boyle played well together when he came up last year.

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01-21-2013, 11:16 PM
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I like it then. Just as long as we get a LW to replace Hags.

But I would really like Hags to play in our bottom 6 and inject some speed there. He and Boyle played well together when he came up last year.
Zuccarello would be pretty good right now. Remember the uncanny chemistry between him and Boyle before he broke his wrists? Man that was the last time I was stress free as a Rangers fan for once.

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01-21-2013, 11:22 PM
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Zuccarello would be pretty good right now. Remember the uncanny chemistry between him and Boyle before he broke his wrists? Man that was the last time I was stress free as a Rangers fan for once.
I don't remember much about him and Boyle. I do remember the power play becoming less sucky. There was *gasp* movement!

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01-21-2013, 11:25 PM
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Oh please Halpern won't even be here for the end of the year..Book it.



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He has been. Halpern's skated well, has been good on faceoffs and a solid PKer. Don't even know why that was brought up. Seems like you're bringing it up because you have nothing to counter with other than "SIZE FIGHTING", as usual.

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Subban is beyond overrated over on the Habs board (he's literally mentioned as being better than every single top D in the league at one point or another by someone), but he's definitely a great young D-man with a bright future ahead of him. He'd be a fantastic pick up for us, but they're going to match anything that isn't a gigantic over-payment unless they're really having a huge fallout which I don't think is the case. We can't afford to outbid them... he's supposed to be their #1 guy moving ahead and is a huge organisational need not only for that, but for the excitement he brings to the team in general. Fan favorite, Molson won't let him go easily.

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My god. I can't stand our fan base right now. Relax people.

Yes, we should have taken Tarasenko. I friggin' love the kid. It would be great to have him and it genuinely was a mistake not taking him. No need to get defensive about it. It also doesn't mean the world is ending and we're a bad team. And I'm excited for McI to come along just the same.

And christ, you'd think we were 0-15 the way most of you are posting. The expectations on these boards were WAY too high coming out of the lockout. You guys bought into way too much hype. We'll be a good, playoff team come season end and we are a competitor if we stay healthy. No body said we'd be the #1 seed or have a perfect record, so relax. There's obvious rust and adjustments to be made with a decent amount of roster turnover but the world is still spinning and all will be fine.

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one player id love to get is Max Pacioretty from Montreal.. i doubt he is available. he is a heck of a player.. power forwards dont grow on trees... rangers need more size that can actually skate in the top 6...








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