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01-21-2013, 05:42 PM
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Tarasenko

For Yakupov: I can still see the 'junior' positioning mistakes, such as over-skating the play and taking longer circles to maintain speed.

Tarasenko's hockey sense is much more refined after 4+ years of Pro KHL Hockey and Russian NT (1 WC and 4+ Eurotours - which is also a very good level of hockey). He's a Vet compared to Yakupov.


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01-21-2013, 05:44 PM
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Tarasenko, easily. He's by far the more polished prospect right now, obviously because he's older and has more experience playing in a professional league against men.
Yakupov may end up the better player in the long run, but for this season, it's gotta be Tarasenko.

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01-21-2013, 06:17 PM
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Tarasenko will get better minutes because the Blues forward group is much weaker. He is also older and and more development time. In 5 years this won't even be a discussion as Yakupov will be a far better player.

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Tarasenko will get better minutes because the Blues forward group is much weaker. He is also older and and more development time. In 5 years this won't even be a discussion as Yakupov will be a far better player.
I'd be willing to take that bet, and I think Tarasenko will still have an argument as the better player.

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01-21-2013, 06:32 PM
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Tarasenko will get better minutes because the Blues forward group is much weaker. He is also older and and more development time. In 5 years this won't even be a discussion as Yakupov will be a far better player.
To be far better player he'll need to be in Crosby Malkin territory which I think won't happen.

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01-21-2013, 08:55 PM
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Tarasenko will get better minutes because the Blues forward group is much weaker. He is also older and and more development time. In 5 years this won't even be a discussion as Yakupov will be a far better player.
let's just say i completely disagree with this statement.

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01-21-2013, 09:00 PM
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Tarasenko will get better minutes because the Blues forward group is much weaker. He is also older and and more development time. In 5 years this won't even be a discussion as Yakupov will be a far better player.
To say Yak will be better is one thing to say he will be a far better player tells me you are a extreme homer who is either overvaluing Yakupov or are undervaluing Tarasneko...Its not as if Vlad has not been a highly touted prospect for years and he already tore up the KHL...I see no reason that Vlad will not be a top notch first line player...Yak could wind up better but for him to be far better you like someon else said he would have to be Crosby/Malkin which I dont think anybody anticipates him to be.

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01-21-2013, 09:03 PM
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Tarasenko. He was better in Russia this season as well. Who will be better down the road is a toss up, but looking at what Tarasenko has done these first 2 games he looks really good

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01-21-2013, 09:04 PM
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Why would this get posted today? Tarasenko is the NHL's darling rookie/flavor of the day because of his quick start. Of course everyoneis gonna pick him.

/facepalm

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01-21-2013, 09:13 PM
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Tarasenko will get better minutes because the Blues forward group is much weaker. He is also older and and more development time. In 5 years this won't even be a discussion as Yakupov will be a far better player.
Because? I still haven't seen any strong positive feedback about Yakupov other than he was drafted 1st overall and will automatically be a top goal scorer based on nothing about his gameplay or development curve at the Pro level.

I just want to get a better understanding of what is or will be making Yakupov so successful in the NHL other than people who rant about his trade value and not his team value.

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Why would this get posted today? Tarasenko is the NHL's darling rookie/flavor of the day because of his quick start. Of course everyoneis gonna pick him.

/facepalm
Aw I guess we should have done it on draft day so the unproven player would get even more undeserved credit as a pro?

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01-21-2013, 09:15 PM
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If Yakupov has a better season than Tarasenko I think we can close the books on who is the better player. Tarasenko should be more seasoned and better prepared, and should win out this year. I think Tarasenko may even wind up better in the long run... but like I said, if Yakupov wins this year the odds are long that Tarasenko catches up.

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01-21-2013, 09:18 PM
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Tarasenko will get better minutes because the Blues forward group is much weaker. He is also older and and more development time. In 5 years this won't even be a discussion as Yakupov will be a far better player.
Then whos? Edmontons? You have GOT to be kidding me....

As for the rest of your post, lol.

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01-21-2013, 09:28 PM
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Then whos? Edmontons? You have GOT to be kidding me....

As for the rest of your post, lol.
I would take the Oilers top 6 forwards over STL's easily.

As for Tarasenko vs Yakupov, Tarasenko is sick, like other people said hes older and better right now but Yakupov could also get it together as the season goes on and play better.

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01-21-2013, 09:33 PM
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I would take the Oilers top 6 forwards over STL's easily.

As for Tarasenko vs Yakupov, Tarasenko is sick, like other people said hes older and better right now but Yakupov could also get it together as the season goes on and play better.
what about the other 6 forwards? Blues roll four lines. Three are scoring lines. And really, I wouldn't take Edmonton's

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01-21-2013, 09:36 PM
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Tarasenko will be better for this season IMO

He's a lot older
And in the future. IMO,

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01-21-2013, 09:43 PM
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Yakupov will get set up by Hemsky and Gagner whom are also great linemates to start off his career. Edmonton will be able to run with two potential number one lines in the near future, if not today , I mean look at Edmonton's powerplay units as well.

I vote Yakupov.

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01-21-2013, 09:48 PM
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Tarasenko will get better minutes because the Blues forward group is much weaker. He is also older and and more development time. In 5 years this won't even be a discussion as Yakupov will be a far better player.
The Blues forward group is weaker? Seriously? If anything it's deeper than the Oilers. There isn't as much high end skill, but there is more depth.

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01-21-2013, 09:54 PM
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Yakupov will get set up by Hemsky and Gagner whom are also great linemates to start off his career. Edmonton will be able to run with two potential number one lines in the near future, if not today , I mean look at Edmonton's powerplay units as well.

I vote Yakupov.
In a 7 game series in the near future, give me the Blues forwards over the Oilers forwards every time

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Tarasenko will get better minutes because the Blues forward group is much weaker. He is also older and and more development time. In 5 years this won't even be a discussion as Yakupov will be a far better player.
Typical oiler fan Bias!! St Louis has much better forwards than the oilers. And its debatable whether Yakupov will ever be as good as Tarasenko is now.

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01-21-2013, 10:16 PM
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Aw I guess we should have done it on draft day so the unproven player would get even more undeserved credit as a pro?
That's actually not what I said at all. Why would you try and put those words in my mouth?

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01-21-2013, 10:28 PM
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Tarasenko will get better minutes because the Blues forward group is much weaker. He is also older and and more development time. In 5 years this won't even be a discussion as Yakupov will be a far better player.


The Blues 2-way forwards play relentless forecheck and backcheck and would destroy the Oilers ice dancers, especially in a playoff atmosphere.

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01-21-2013, 10:30 PM
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I think I'd pick Tarasenko even in the future.

I see Yakupov as a one dimensional winger that can hit...mind you, one capable of hitting PPG so I'm not trashing him.

Tarasenko on the other hand seems like a two way player, great goal scoring ability, high IQ, good vision.

If he can play like this for 75% of the Blues games...he's their biggest star in his rookie season.

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Because? I still haven't seen any strong positive feedback about Yakupov other than he was drafted 1st overall and will automatically be a top goal scorer based on nothing about his gameplay or development curve at the Pro level.

I just want to get a better understanding of what is or will be making Yakupov so successful in the NHL other than people who rant about his trade value and not his team value.
Keep in mind how good Tarasenko is. When he was 19, he had 9 goals in 42 games in the KHL. Yakupov had 10 goals in what, 21 or 22 games? Just as many points as well, except it took Yak half the amount of games. Projection is part of the guessing game, so that's a good place to start on WHy people might think Yakupov will be better.

I won't say for sure either way though.

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01-21-2013, 10:40 PM
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Tarasenko just really fits the Blues system too. He's not the floating type. He will learn from some of the best 2 way players in the league in Backes, Oshie, Steen, Sobotka and Berglund. Relentless style. Hitch is the master too.

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