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Game #3| Jan. 22, 2013|Flyers at Devils |7:30 p.m. ET pt II

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01-22-2013, 09:52 PM
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"I wouldn't say it's a crisis. But I think it's fair to say the next game is a must win," Wayne Simmonds post-game, Jan. 22.
Thursday will tell us what we got.

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01-22-2013, 09:54 PM
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I think heads will roll snider wont be a happy camper would like to see Burkie brought in as the new GM
I'd enjoy this scenario the most if Burke failed to get Luongo to Philly and therefore got fired by Snider.

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So... if your saying we should relax and not worry (not your words but seems to be the consensus of those who "believe" I guess), when do we start to worry? Remember, we dont have half a season to get the thing right. We have 45 more games now.
After 20ish games, if we're far away behind the playoff teams, then we should start to worry. After 3 games against pretty good teams? lol.

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Why the Burke love? I honestly think he is/was a worse GM then Homer.

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01-22-2013, 09:56 PM
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If this team can't get up and get ****ing prepared for the rangers game then I really think its time to flip the plastic cover up on the panic button... I'm not hitting it yet... Just getting it ready.

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After 20ish games, if we're far away behind the playoff teams, then we should start to worry. After 3 games against pretty good teams? lol.
So, you are saying we should wait half a season before freaking? What about the team? Should they make changes, or not worry?

Also we will be playing these teams alot in a short season, so better hope they get better against "pretty good teams"

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A shootout win. They can't get it done in regulation.

They are now losing 6-1.
Lol, shoot out win or not, they still won.

And hey, they at least scored one goal tonight .

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My worry is a panic move by Holmgren. Please just let this roster play together and don't go chasing the shiny objects. If they miss the playoffs this year, they miss the playoffs this year.

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My worry is a panic move by Holmgren. Please just let this roster play together and don't go chasing the shiny objects. If they miss the playoffs this year, they miss the playoffs this year.
If there is a year to miss the playoffs , it seems like this is the year.

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So, you are saying we should wait half a season before freaking? What about the team? Should they make changes, or not worry?
They have to adapt, not to worry or to do panic moves. We've lost 3-1 with an empty net against Pittsburgh, 5-2 against buf, but it was 2-2 for a while and we've been disallowed 2 goals. Then 3-0 against NJD with 2 weird goals. It's not like we lost 8-0 3 times in a row against Columbus, NYI and the habs.

Edit : you can add to that the fact that Briere is out, that Laviolette tried new lines, which were pretty weird, etc.

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My worry is a panic move by Holmgren. Please just let this roster play together and don't go chasing the shiny objects. If they miss the playoffs this year, they miss the playoffs this year.
I think thats what people HAVE to understand. This team is relying on their sophomore players to help out Giroux. You also got guys like Hartnell and Simmonds who had career years. Who knows if they replicate it.

Even during the losing streaks last season, this season, with the short schedule feels different with their work ethic.

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I think heads will roll snider wont be a happy camper would like to see Burkie brought in as the new GM
I don't understand this love affair with Burke. He couldn't handle the Toronto situation, do you really think he could handle working for Snider and dealing with the Philly media? He would have a nervous breakdown if he hasn't already had one. The guy is walking on the edge as it is, it wouldn't take much for him to fall over.

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Rags play Bruins tomorrow than Philly Thursday. Zero excuse not to win.

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They have to adapt, not to worry or to do panic moves. We've lost 3-1 with an empty net against Pittsburgh, 5-2 against buf, but it was 2-2 for a while and we've been disallowed 2 goals. Then 3-0 against NJD with 2 weird goals. It's not like we lost 8-0 3 times in a row against Columbus, NYI and the habs.
It's not the results that I'm worried about. It's the complete lack of synchronization and work while we're making teams that had just as much time to prepare as we did look like they're playing for the cup against a prep school team.

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They have to adapt, not to worry or to do panic moves. We've lost 3-1 with an empty net against Pittsburgh, 5-2 against buf, but it was 2-2 for a while and we've been disallowed 2 goals. Then 3-0 against NJD with 2 weird goals. It's not like we lost 8-0 3 times in a row against Columbus, NYI and the habs.
Weird goals or disallowed goals, they are still goals. The teams still scored those goals. I see the "unlucky" thing floating around. You aren't just unlucky, you promote it how you act (or in this case play).

They have to bring their own luck, or they could lose a lot of game. It doesnt matter if the other team scored lucky goals or not, they are still losses.

I'll be honest. Wish I was as calm as you. You seem to have alot of faith in the current roster. I see the holes in it which are being found out by other teams it seems. Could they turn it around? Sure. But they have ALOT of work to do and not alot of time to do it.

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I don't want to see any panic trades either.

We know they'd involve draft picks. I'd rather keep those.

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Lavi better figure something out b/c his team looks extremely confused out there and he bears responsibility regardless. Tocchet said there doesn't seem to be any commitment to defense but I guess so when Lavi said he was going to attack attack attack. Ironically, the attack looks like the Polish cavalry going up against Panzers...
Completely OT fun fact, that's a myth. http://www.historynet.com/1939-polis...an-panzers.htm .

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It's not the results that I'm worried about. It's the complete lack of synchronization and work while we're making teams that had just as much time to prepare as we did look like they're playing for the cup against a prep school team.
I don't think it was that bad. The PP sucks, but otherwise... like I said, they will adapt their game.

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I think thats what people HAVE to understand. This team is relying on their sophomore players to help out Giroux. You also got guys like Hartnell and Simmonds who had career years. Who knows if they replicate it.

Even during the losing streaks last season, this season, with the short schedule feels different with their work ethic.
Common sense endures.

In the most of extreme scenarios, if this team can't pull it together in time, you ask Timonen and Briere if they want another shot at the Cup, and see what the market will bear. Attempt to restock the cupboard in a D-heavy draft year. If they pull it together, sweet!

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Weird goals or disallowed goals, they are still goals. The teams still scored those goals. I see the "unlucky" thing floating around. You aren't just unlucky, you promote it how you act (or in this case play).

They have to bring their own luck, or they could lose a lot of game. It doesnt matter if the other team scored lucky goals or not, they are still losses.

I'll be honest. Wish I was as calm as you. You seem to have alot of faith in the current roster. I see the holes in it which are being found out by other teams it seems. Could they turn it around? Sure. But they have ALOT of work to do.
It's not really a luck thing, it's more that we were not that far from winning. We were in the first two games, this one is the only one in which we didn't really compete. This roster is basically the same as last year, with rookies being a year older and a more confident Bryz. There's no way we won't be an offensive power.

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If there is a year to miss the playoffs , it seems like this is the year.
Yeah really, look at dat draft!

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Just look no farther then our farm team we have no talent down there worth speaking.
all of our young talent is on the roster.

schenn, couturier, laughton if they were all in the ahl or whatever we would be ranked number 1 by hf....do think that ish matters?

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Common sense endures.

In the most of extreme scenarios, if this team can't pull it together in time, you ask Timonen and Briere if they want another shot at the Cup, and see what the market will bear. Attempt to restock the cupboard in a D-heavy draft year. If they pull it together, sweet!
As mentioned somewhere on this board, the draft isn't all that D-heavy. Only 2 (with obviously Jones) in the top 8, and 4 in the top 10.

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It's not really a luck thing, it's more that we were not that far from winning. We were in the first two games, this one is the only one in which we didn't really compete. This roster is basically the same as last year, with rookies being a year older and a more confident Bryz. There's no way we won't be an offensive power.
I disagree. If Hartnell can't replicate or even improve on his career year and Voracek can't put it together, this offense is not good enough. In that circumstance, it's essentially Giroux and then a team of 2nd and 3rd liners right now.

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