Surprised Dano would come play in the WHL, he already plays in the KHL and makes good money would be my guess.
i forgot that slovan bratislava joined KHL last year. dano is playing in slovakia, not in russia, so dano is still living at home, but probably making more money (and probably more than he would until he joined NHL).
that probably makes it a lot more likely for him to stay in KHL.
I'm really not that high on Nichushkin. Wouldn't probably take him at the top ten, at least.
Not sure if I saw him make one good pass during the whole tournament. He's big, he's strong, he can skate and plays hard but has no vision.
Well maybe it will work for him but he's very raw at this point. And could get some big KHL money, that 3-yr contract tells something about his willingness to play in NA.. or lack of it.
I'm really not that high on Nichushkin. Wouldn't probably take him at the top ten, at least.
Not sure if I saw him make one good pass during the whole tournament. He's big, he's strong, he can skate and plays hard but has no vision.
Well maybe it will work for him but he's very raw at this point. And could get some big KHL money, that 3-yr contract tells something about his willingness to play in NA.. or lack of it.
Considering we're prolly picking around 20-25, he'd be a great pick there. Only thing we're missing now is a forward with size and skill
any opinions on some of the d-men? some of us must have seen some of them.
morrissey, ristolainen, nurse (teammate of sproul), zadorov, ian mccoshen, hagg, tom vannelli, michael downing, dillon heatherington
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I'm really not that high on Nichushkin. Wouldn't probably take him at the top ten, at least.
Not sure if I saw him make one good pass during the whole tournament. He's big, he's strong, he can skate and plays hard but has no vision.
Well maybe it will work for him but he's very raw at this point. And could get some big KHL money, that 3-yr contract tells something about his willingness to play in NA.. or lack of it.
agree
does not seem like a smart player, and relied almost entirely on physical talent. OTOH, yakupov was 1st overall and he played basically the same dumb speed and power game at WJC as nichushkin. he did not generally play like that in OHL based on video i have seen.
in top 10 there are probably several better players available. i probably would not pick nichushkin in the 1st round.
any opinions on some of the d-men? some of us must have seen some of them.
morrissey, ristolainen, nurse (teammate of sproul), zadorov, ian mccoshen, hagg, tom vannelli, michael downing, dillon heatherington
Nurse has been rising hard this season. Good skater for his size, physical, mean. Excellent in his zone. Time will tell if he has enough offense in him. Much better D than Sproul has, for example.
Ristolainen is tough SOB. Physical, mean, could improve d-zone coverage a little. Hockey IQ is good. Has a hard shot, offensive upside is not out of this world imo but he can chip in offensively, good first pass can move the puck. Skating is good for big man. Could be steal somewhat if he falls out of top ten. May not have #1 PP QB ability on him, offensive vision isn't that great imo. Excelling in FEL against men, looked awesome in WJCs.
Zadorov is another big man, can play physical, pretty smart. Not sure how much offense he has on him but looks very sure-fire defensive D who can pk well at NHL-level. Another pretty mobile skater for that size.
Hägg looked ok during the WJCs.. made some mistakes but he's very young. Good frame, good skater. Nice vision imo. Apparently Håkan is really high on him. Great tools.
Wouldn't be disappointed with any of them.
I'd rank them
Ristolainen
Zadorov/Nurse
Hägg.
Have seen the least of Hägg, but Häkan wants kid, you know what that means. Zadorov and Nurse are similar, big mobile defensemen with good reach and they know how to use it. Questions about off. potential. Ristolainen is the most complete out of these imo. Don't know how Hägg has played in SEL, but stats don't look that great when Ristolainen looks good against men and had better WJCs imo.
Nichushkin would be a good use of a mid to late 1st round pick regardless of how he compares to Nash. The comments about him lacking vision don't really bother me at this stage. I think he would bring a nice dimension to the organization.
195 cm height, 95 kg weight at the age of 17!!!
The guy is going to be an absolute tank in a few seasons. And he has Kovalchuk's hands to boot.
I'm really not that high on Nichushkin. Wouldn't probably take him at the top ten, at least.
Not sure if I saw him make one good pass during the whole tournament. He's big, he's strong, he can skate and plays hard but has no vision.
Well maybe it will work for him but he's very raw at this point. And could get some big KHL money, that 3-yr contract tells something about his willingness to play in NA.. or lack of it.
With that you'd go down as at least one of the biggest fails in draft history. Nichushkin is the new Malkin in the making.
any opinions on some of the d-men? some of us must have seen some of them.
morrissey, ristolainen, nurse (teammate of sproul), zadorov, ian mccoshen, hagg, tom vannelli, michael downing, dillon heatherington
agree
does not seem like a smart player, and relied almost entirely on physical talent. OTOH, yakupov was 1st overall and he played basically the same dumb speed and power game at WJC as nichushkin. he did not generally play like that in OHL based on video i have seen.
in top 10 there are probably several better players available. i probably would not pick nichushkin in the 1st round.
If the scouts are just as blind as you guys somebody is going to make a steal for the ages at the draft.
Tbh i WANT them to lose many games so they get the 1st overall
Imagine what a feeling it would be on draft day, to go up there on stage first of all, all the attention, not only the 1st overall but 31st overall, and the 3rd rounder is like 60th overall... dayum i want
With that you'd go down as at least one of the biggest fails in draft history. Nichushkin is the new Malkin in the making.
Malkin has vision. Nichuskin on the other hand..
He also has three year contract in KHL.. Maybe he doesn't want to come over to play for 900 k or so when he can possibly get 5 mil over there. Or should I say 150 k at GR for few years.
He does have elite skillset but that toolbox has me worried.
dano does seem like a DRW pick, and not just b/c they have picked several slovakian F's recently (tatar, jurco, tvrdon).
Kopecky?
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i am not a big fan of nash and i think he does lack vision of better star F's, but nash has been a very reliable and productive player. a lot of criticism of nash comes from his draft position and problems associated with CBJ.
Nash gets treated as if he's an elite winger who scores 40-40-80 every season. In reality, he's scored 40 twice and broken 70 points once. There was a poll last week or so asking which NYR forward was the best of Nash, Gaborik, or Richards. Nash doesn't seriously belong in that conversation.
Nash gets treated as if he's an elite winger who scores 40-40-80 every season. In reality, he's scored 40 twice and broken 70 points once. There was a poll last week or so asking which NYR forward was the best of Nash, Gaborik, or Richards. Nash doesn't seriously belong in that conversation.
On one of the consistently worse teams in the NHL.
Nash gets treated as if he's an elite winger who scores 40-40-80 every season. In reality, he's scored 40 twice and broken 70 points once. There was a poll last week or so asking which NYR forward was the best of Nash, Gaborik, or Richards. Nash doesn't seriously belong in that conversation.
Of course small sample size but so far he's been the best of them this season, imo.
He also has three year contract in KHL.. Maybe he doesn't want to come over to play for 900 k or so when he can possibly get 5 mil over there. Or should I say 150 k at GR for few years.
He does have elite skillset but that toolbox has me worried.
If we're in the top 5 we can't go wrong picking anyone imo, this draft is mega deep & everyone in the top 5 has the potential to be a game breaker. Even outside of the top 5 we players like Pulock, Nichushkin, Ristolainen, Shinkaruk & it just goes on & on.
If we're picking top 5 I hope we go the BPA, luckily though everyone in the top 5 can player center or is a defenseman both are positions of need. If we are picking 6th overall I'd like to see us go with Pulock/Shinkaruk/Nichushkin, if we're in the 11th overall area Nurse is my pick followed by Zadorov/Erne. The lowest I think we'd be picking this year is around 18th overall and there I'd like to see Domi/Morrissey/Hagg/Lazar.
Pretty much anywhere we pick in the first we should be getting either a potential top 6 forward or a top 4 dman.
Outside of Jones, I don't see anyone I'd rather have than Monahan. He's the power forward type the Red Wings haven't had since Shanny was in his prime.
