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01-23-2013, 04:30 PM
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Nifty. Which forward, and are we flipping Mason? Anisimov would be stellar, or Dubinksy...but they just rode into town.....a prospect mayhaps?
Doubt Arty or Dubs, but would love either of em

Brassard?
Johansen?

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01-23-2013, 04:39 PM
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Brassard would make the most sense, I think. Doubt they move Johansen.

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Doubt Arty or Dubs, but would love either of em

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Johansen?
Johansen!?! im going to say no. Brassard i dont know maybe but cerrtainly no chance on Johansen

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01-23-2013, 04:42 PM
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Doubtful Luongo would waive his No trade clause to go to Columbus. But then again perhaps a shorten season would change that.

In other words, a deal may be in place but there's no deal if Luongo won't go there...

Gillis is bluffing.

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01-23-2013, 04:45 PM
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Yeah. John Davidson's approach of "I love that we have 3 first round picks and potentially a high 2nd in a deep draft" and "brick by brick teambuilding" totally means we're going after Luongo. He also said he's not moving young pieces that will make the club better in the long run.

Nothing to see here. He's not going to Columbus because we don't want him and he wouldn't want us either.

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01-23-2013, 04:53 PM
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Forget that the Blue Jackets are lousy to begin with, but if you've ever BEEN to Columbus, you'll know Luongo isn't waiving his NTC to go there. Same goes for Edmonton.

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Finn I'd like.

Biggs I really could go either way on...I'm not a big fan of his.

Well Kuli+1st and a cap dump isn't about as low as I can go. For all the crap Kulemin gets, and even my stance on him being a redundant asset, I think we could put him to use in place of someone like Weise on our third line (although I didn't like his game, his overall time here has merited the promotion to line three tonight).

I'll count the Kulemin/Connolly/1st deal as a maybe, I'm probably about to be set on fire by some fellow Canucks fans though.
Lol....i just mentioned our 1st....the pitchforks are being weilded by Leafs fans as we speak!!!

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01-23-2013, 05:01 PM
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It is easy to overlook that Luongo's contract is viewed as a negative by any potential trading partner that tends to spend near the maximum of the cap, but should be looked at as a positive by a team struggling to reach the cap floor.

Obviously, that is not as true now while the salary is $6.7 million, but it will be for the last four years of the contract. Especially if Luongo retires before the end of the contract, the cap hit without the salary expense will be a benefit to a low spending team.

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01-23-2013, 05:06 PM
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Forget that the Blue Jackets are lousy to begin with, but if you've ever BEEN to Columbus, you'll know Luongo isn't waiving his NTC to go there. Same goes for Edmonton.
There is nothing wrong with Columbus. Big college town. There's worse in Ohio for sure. And I would not compare anything to Edmonton. Planet Hoth meets Texas.

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01-23-2013, 05:09 PM
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Doubt Arty or Dubs, but would love either of em

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Brassard would make the most sense, I think. Doubt they move Johansen.
If it's Johansen, I will build a solid gold statue of Luongo and Gillis a GM place.

Brassard is a real "buy low" player at the moment for me, he's probably going to do great things, but this seems like a reclamation project. I'd rather hold out of Dubinsky TBH. Not cracking 20 goals or 50 points is a red mark for a highly drafted forwards, especially when we count his value versus Luongo.

As a side note, how many top six centers do Columbus have?

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01-23-2013, 05:11 PM
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Lol....i just mentioned our 1st....the pitchforks are being weilded by Leafs fans as we speak!!!
I don't know, Bourne seemed...dare I say civil. He wanted a little more youth...any prospects that you'd throw our way for a 2nd or 3rd pick?...or make Connolly Komi?

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01-23-2013, 05:12 PM
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Columbus just got Bobrovsky i dont think they'll give up on him after 2 games and if Luongo is brought in then i dont see it for much

maybe Mason and Calvert

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01-23-2013, 05:17 PM
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You want Kuli...talk to me, what else?
That's the problem I'm not sure what else. Kulemin is a good piece, but he is not worth close to Luongo on his own and I don't really know what I would ask for from the Leafs.

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Luongo+
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Gagner+Paajarvi+Pick(2nd/3rd)



But doubt Oilers will like that much; however because they're same division I just don't see Gillis letting Luo go cheap.
Don't think that is a good idea for the Canucks. Sending Luongo to Oilers is asking for trouble. I would only use them as leverage.

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01-23-2013, 05:21 PM
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I don't know, Bourne seemed...dare I say civil. He wanted a little more youth...any prospects that you'd throw our way for a 2nd or 3rd pick?...or make Connolly Komi?
I would do Komi. How about you add a 2nd and we add Frattin.

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01-23-2013, 05:27 PM
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I would do Komi. How about you add a 2nd and we add Frattin.
Ok how bout

Kulemin, Frattin, Finn, 2nd

For

Luongo

And we will take Connolly off your hands at 2/3 salary if that adds value to you. I would take full salary but he won't fit under cap that way.

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01-23-2013, 05:39 PM
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Ok how bout

Kulemin, Frattin, Finn, 2nd

For

Luongo

And we will take Connolly off your hands at 2/3 salary if that adds value to you. I would take full salary but he won't fit under cap that way.
No thanks, we don't need spare player for Luongo.

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01-23-2013, 05:41 PM
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I would do Komi. How about you add a 2nd and we add Frattin.
Is that including the first? So Kulemin + Frattin + Komisarek +1st for Luongo +2nd?

Could live with that. My only concern would be how much of Komisarek's salary we can handle going into next year.

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01-23-2013, 05:47 PM
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Ok how bout

Kulemin, Frattin, Finn, 2nd

For

Luongo

And we will take Connolly off your hands at 2/3 salary if that adds value to you. I would take full salary but he won't fit under cap that way.
I would probably do this. As far as Connolly, he's done this year so i'm not concerned with paying to give him away.

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There is nothing wrong with Columbus. Big college town. There's worse in Ohio for sure. And I would not compare anything to Edmonton. Planet Hoth meets Texas.
It's not just the city. It's also the franchise. The BJs are one of the most consistently losing franchieses in NHL history. They do not seem to be anywhere close to icing competitive product.

Edmonton, on the other hand, has a history of winning, and looks to be on the right track in their rebuild. Meanwhile, the Blue Jackets have picked in the top 8 every year but one.

Luongo, at 33, is going to want to be with a competitor.

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It's not just the city. It's also the franchise. The BJs are one of the most consistently losing franchieses in NHL history. They do not seem to be anywhere close to icing competitive product.

Edmonton, on the other hand, has a history of winning, and looks to be on the right track in their rebuild. Meanwhile, the Blue Jackets have picked in the top 8 every year but one.

Luongo, at 33, is going to want to be with a competitor.
One is a franchise that had (note past tense) inept management from the start as an expansion franchise.

Edmonton's history of winning was from 20 years ago....that ship has long sailed, the fans of edmonton aren't going out because they're a proven winning franchise, they've been sold on hope. Recent history is of losing and losing badly.

Columbus isn't near as bad as people make them out to be....their 'team' is better now that Nash is gone.

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Must be the "air" out in Vancouver. Some of these returns you think the Canucks are getting are pretty funny. I guess you might as well aim high.. No way in hell Gillis is getting close to the standard 1st line player, top prospect and 1st or 2nd round draft pick some of you think.

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Must be the "air" out in Vancouver. Some of these returns you think the Canucks are getting are pretty funny. I guess you might as well aim high.. No way in hell Gillis is getting close to the standard 1st line player, top prospect and 1st or 2nd round draft pick some of you think.
Thats a nice insightful post there.

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There is nothing wrong with Columbus. Big college town. There's worse in Ohio for sure. And I would not compare anything to Edmonton. Planet Hoth meets Texas.
After living in SoFla and Vancouver, I don't think Buckeye town seems too appealing.

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It's not just the city. It's also the franchise. The BJs are one of the most consistently losing franchieses in NHL history. They do not seem to be anywhere close to icing competitive product.

Edmonton, on the other hand, has a history of winning, and looks to be on the right track in their rebuild. Meanwhile, the Blue Jackets have picked in the top 8 every year but one.

Luongo, at 33, is going to want to be with a competitor.
they've only been around for 15 years compared to franchises being around decades apon decades. the city has very often been rated one of the best college towns in the country

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