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01-23-2013, 12:09 PM
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Its that we're not used to such a dynamic player. Gaborik has scored 110 goals in 3 seasons with us but he does it in such an understated manner; disappearing and then reappearing. Richards is a star but doesn't have that physical presence. Since Jagr left we have't had a player that can flat out dominate the offensive zone.

Now whether this line can work with Richards's Wind, Nash' Earth, and Gaborik's Fire altogether, we'll have to see. Maybe not enough puck for so many scorers.
The evolution of Jagr's game throughout his career is something to behold. I liken it to how Michael Jordan's game evolved as he got older. In the first half of his career, Jagr was Mr. Highlight - the kind of guy that could go through your entire team before scoring a spectacular goal. Later in his career, he depended more on his size, strength, and smarts - and, to get really into it, his enormous rear end.

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01-23-2013, 12:09 PM
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I don't think other teams can focus on him quite as much either

Still, he needs to sharpen up his stick handling a bit and get his shot through. I think he had like 3 or 4 shots from the slot blocked against Pittsburgh (or that's what it felt like)

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01-23-2013, 12:14 PM
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If he can turn into more than just a 30-30 guy for us then it will have been a good get.

But we basically upgraded Dubinsky to Nash at the price of our 3rd line center, and some prospects. Acknowledging that, Nash needs to produce significantly more than Dubinsky at that price to be worth it.

I am pleased that he seems to be taking an active penalty killing role.

Gaborik, on the other hand I am concerned Tortorella will not give enough ice time to. He won't be the center of attention for defenses which could help him, but he won't see as much of the puck. This is why i'm much more in favor of keeping him on a separate line, with occasional shifts on the first.

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01-23-2013, 01:00 PM
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Rick Nash should EASILY be a 35-35 player on this team perennially. 30-30 and I will be disappointed.

Dubinsky is a good 2nd/3rd liner, 15-20g, 15-20a but he has the hockey IQ of a teenager. Anisimov looks like he is going to take off in CLB though. I wonder if that has something to do with Tyutin and Nikitin being around for him to hang out with....

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01-23-2013, 01:05 PM
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Rick Nash should EASILY be a 35-35 player on this team perennially. 30-30 and I will be disappointed.

Dubinsky is a good 2nd/3rd liner, 15-20g, 15-20a but he has the hockey IQ of a teenager. Anisimov looks like he is going to take off in CLB though. I wonder if that has something to do with Tyutin and Nikitin being around for him to hang out with....
Might have something to do with that. Might also be that less is being demanded of him physically in Columbus. Thats always a positive for a soft player.

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01-23-2013, 01:23 PM
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Might have something to do with that. Might also be that less is being demanded of him physically in Columbus. Thats always a positive for a soft player.
Granted it was a small sample size but he looked confident and good with the puck the other night. I think it helps him when he is able to play with players who can handle the physical aspect of the game (Foligno, Dubinsky, Calvert, Umberger, Dorsett, etc.)

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01-23-2013, 01:41 PM
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Rick Nash should EASILY be a 35-35 player on this team perennially. 30-30 and I will be disappointed.

Dubinsky is a good 2nd/3rd liner, 15-20g, 15-20a but he has the hockey IQ of a teenager. Anisimov looks like he is going to take off in CLB though. I wonder if that has something to do with Tyutin and Nikitin being around for him to hang out with....
He had Feds to hang out with here. (Before someone says something, Feds being from Ukraine means nothing as he speaks Russian).

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01-23-2013, 01:45 PM
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He had Feds to hang out with here. (Before someone says something, Feds being from Ukraine means nothing as he speaks Russian).
Thats a good point. Maybe he is just taking the next step in his development.

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01-23-2013, 01:49 PM
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Granted it was a small sample size but he looked confident and good with the puck the other night. I think it helps him when he is able to play with players who can handle the physical aspect of the game (Foligno, Dubinsky, Calvert, Umberger, Dorsett, etc.)
This. I'm remembering the line he centered with two physical players, he said it helped him to play more confidently because he felt safer on the ice.

Was that line Prust - AA - Shelley?

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01-23-2013, 01:52 PM
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Rick Nash should EASILY be a 35-35 player on this team perennially. 30-30 and I will be disappointed.

Dubinsky is a good 2nd/3rd liner, 15-20g, 15-20a but he has the hockey IQ of a teenager. Anisimov looks like he is going to take off in CLB though. I wonder if that has something to do with Tyutin and Nikitin being around for him to hang out with....
haha this reminds me of the epic thread way back when...callahan vs dubi. whos better ??

i remember going back in forth with BRB about that very thing. people were saying he was gonna be a 1c i said 3c. maybe a 2 if hes lucky. dubi just had zero hockey iq.

to me, he was always just a dopey immature kid who who was never sure where to go or what to do other than skate as fast as he could and turn the puck over.

i was solidly in the callahan column btw, and not just cuz hes a solid upstate ny kid... but because he just seemed to be a pure hockey player.

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01-23-2013, 01:59 PM
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Was that line Prust - AA - Shelley?
That's the one. Jody Shelley played 14 minutes in a do or die game.

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01-23-2013, 02:11 PM
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Granted it was a small sample size but he looked confident and good with the puck the other night. I think it helps him when he is able to play with players who can handle the physical aspect of the game (Foligno, Dubinsky, Calvert, Umberger, Dorsett, etc.)
Both Dubi and AA looked good with the Blue Jackets . I hope they do well because Nash will be good for us . I agree about that element of toughness also helps . Columbus have a few guys that can hurt you if you are not watching all the time . That is a big plus for AA !!!

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01-23-2013, 02:42 PM
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That's the one. Jody Shelley played 14 minutes in a do or die game.
Jody Shelley scored the lone Ranger goal in that do or die game!

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01-23-2013, 03:00 PM
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Oh, and another positive thing, with all the games against Eastern Conference teams, none of the games this year start after 8pm.

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01-23-2013, 03:16 PM
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I really hope Anisimov does well in CLB, but lets not forget that he's had stretches where he looks amazing here too. He just hasn't sustained it for a whole year. I don't think any of the factors you guys have mentioned have any impact... Yet.

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Oh, and another positive thing, with all the games against Eastern Conference teams, none of the games this year start after 8pm.
As someone who often gets out of work late, this bothers me.

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As someone who often gets out of work late, this bothers me.
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First win tonight. Let's go. I feel at least one guy breaks out a bit tonight.

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As someone who often gets out of work late, this bothers me.
See, and I'm someone who has to get up at 4 or 5 am for work and those west coast games are too much for this old man.

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Now we're going to win the cup! until our next goal given up that is, in which case we'll be in the lottery.

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The Gabby to MDZ to Staal goal was a thing of beauty. Tic Tac Toe...I thought we really out played them the entire game, they were lucky to get the two goals they got.

Henke seems to be just a touch off, not bad, just not quite what he is capable of. Once he does we should be just fine.

I'd like to see our 2nd and 3rd lines contribute a few goals. We rely so heavily on our 1st line. Although it is pretty amazing to see those 3 together, I think we need Step and Cally to pick up the pace a little and knock a few more in the net.

Edit: I thought our forecheck was a million times better than the first 4 games we played.


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