HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk
Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk Trade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must contain the word RUMOR in post title. Proposals must contain the word PROPOSAL in post title.

*ALL* PK Subban talk (News/Speculation/Rumors/Proposals) ‎

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
01-24-2013, 09:18 AM
  #976
njdevil26
Registered User
 
njdevil26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Clark, NJ
Country: Italy
Posts: 6,503
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JesusBouillon View Post
Why?

He's an RFA so they will have his rights no matter what. It's not like they're afraid he'll bolt to the KHL.

Subban will get a king's ransom (top prospect) in a trade, or he won't be traded at all.
Either way I would trade John Merrill (our top D prospect), Henrik Tallinder, and a 1st and maybe even a 2nd for Subban.

njdevil26 is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:18 AM
  #977
IceDaddy
24 and Counting
 
IceDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,738
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre Dagenais View Post
I think the bigger question is does Subban want to play in Long Island?
he is RFA, he has little choice where he goes.

IceDaddy is online now  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:18 AM
  #978
GordieHoweHatTrick
Registered User
 
GordieHoweHatTrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 12,629
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre Dagenais View Post
lol no thanks. MDZ is garbage.
Certainly overrated.

I doubt Philly is eager to give up a guy like Couturier for a player without a contract. More likely Niederreiter + for Subban. How would Habs fans feel about Nino + Isles 1st round pick for Subban?

GordieHoweHatTrick is online now  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:18 AM
  #979
Trafalgar Law
Waive Ryan Smyth
 
Trafalgar Law's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,179
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbage Goal View Post
An unsigned Subban wouldn't fetch anywhere near Couturier.
Yes he would, you do realize that Subban is better OFFENSIVELY than Couturier atm right?

Trafalgar Law is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:19 AM
  #980
SLAPSHOT723
Moderator
Big Brock
 
SLAPSHOT723's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Long Island
Posts: 16,370
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by boredmale View Post
I think a bigger question is would they be willing to pay him what he wants
If Wang/Snow value Subban as a player, they'll pay him what they feel is right. If Subban's and Wang/Snow's views are the same, then they'll give him the contract he wants. They will pay their own players big bucks (Tavares, Okposo, Grabner, Nielsen, eventually Hamonic and AMac) if they value them high. I think Subban would be a great fit here. JT's best friend and a need on the ice, can't ask for much more in a player. His value in a trade is obviously standing in the way.

A package around Niederreiter+, then waiving Finley to send back to Buffalo/Rochester would make:

Streit-Subban
MacDonald-Hamonic
Strait/Hickey-Carkner
Hickey/Strait/Martinek

That looks really good to me. Especially if somehow Visnovsky returns.

SLAPSHOT723 is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:19 AM
  #981
boredmale
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 22,737
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by IceDaddy View Post
he is RFA, he has little choice where he goes.
As he is buddies with Tavares, that being said Wang is a cheapskate so that problem #1 for the Islanders trading for him

boredmale is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:19 AM
  #982
IceDaddy
24 and Counting
 
IceDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,738
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by GordieHoweHatTrick View Post
Certainly overrated.

I doubt Philly is eager to give up a guy like Couturier for a player without a contract. More likely Niederreiter + for Subban. How would Habs fans feel about Nino + Isles 1st round pick for Subban?
I think it would be a good start, Id want alittle more though.

IceDaddy is online now  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:20 AM
  #983
Carlton St Cashbox
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 20
vCash: 500
As much as I would love to see him in Toronto, that will never happen. However, I think he would look real good in Edmonton, Detroit, or LA. I don't know if any of those teams could make it work but if they can then PK could really thrive. I feel that the Habs curtail him of his true talent potential anyway.

Carlton St Cashbox is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:20 AM
  #984
CaptainCally
Registered User
 
CaptainCally's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,901
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by kemisti View Post
Seriously doubt Blues would trade A-Pie.. for any D imo.

CaptainCally is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:21 AM
  #985
Pierre Dagenais
RIP Mr. Hockey
 
Pierre Dagenais's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,314
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by IceDaddy View Post
he is RFA, he has little choice where he goes.
Actually, he could just refuse to sign a contract with the Islanders if he is traded there.

I'm sure the Islanders would contact him first to see what his demands are and if he is willing to sign.

Pierre Dagenais is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:21 AM
  #986
MeestaDeteta
Registered User
 
MeestaDeteta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Saskazoo
Posts: 7,377
vCash: 139
I'd be very curious to see what each side is looking for both in terms of years and dollars. I'm a little surprised an offer sheet hasn't been done at this point to be honest.

MeestaDeteta is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:21 AM
  #987
GordieHoweHatTrick
Registered User
 
GordieHoweHatTrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 12,629
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by IceDaddy View Post
I think it would be a good start, Id want alittle more though.
Yea, I think it's close to being fair. I doubt all Isles fans would be on board with it though, the draft is deep. They'd get a chance to lock up a top pairing defenseman for multiple years. Pair him with Hamonic and with a core of Tavares, Strome, Subban, Hamonic things are suddenly looking really bright on the Island.

GordieHoweHatTrick is online now  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:21 AM
  #988
Rangerboy030
Registered User
 
Rangerboy030's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 454
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by GM17 View Post
Really? because he's a defensive disaster and I do a happy dance whenever he starts in his own end
Yes, really. It's also been about 2 years since his sophomore season, when he garnered his reputation as a defensive liability. Curiously, he improved dramatically since then and is now, while not outstanding in the defensive end, a reliable D in his own zone, while being good for about 40 pts a season.

Is he worth Subban? No. But you made yourself look like a fool by calling him "brutal".

Rangerboy030 is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:21 AM
  #989
SeriousHabs
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Montreal
Posts: 2,661
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre Dagenais View Post
I think the bigger question is does Subban want to play in Long Island?
That is 100% irrelevant. Subban can't choose where he gets traded.

SeriousHabs is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:22 AM
  #990
NYR Viper
Moderator
 
NYR Viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Country: United States
Posts: 27,961
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre Dagenais View Post
lol no thanks. MDZ is garbage.


And it is fairly obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. Well done.

NYR Viper is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:22 AM
  #991
Pierre Dagenais
RIP Mr. Hockey
 
Pierre Dagenais's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,314
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLAPSHOT723 View Post
If Wang/Snow value Subban as a player, they'll pay him what they feel is right. If Subban's and Wang/Snow's views are the same, then they'll give him the contract he wants. They will pay their own players big bucks (Tavares, Okposo, Grabner, Nielsen, eventually Hamonic and AMac) if they value them high. I think Subban would be a great fit here. JT's best friend and a need on the ice, can't ask for much more in a player. His value in a trade is obviously standing in the way.

A package around Niederreiter+, then waiving Finley to send back to Buffalo/Rochester would make:

Streit-Subban
MacDonald-Hamonic
Strait/Hickey-Carkner
Hickey/Strait/Martinek

That looks really good to me. Especially if somehow Visnovsky returns.
Depends what the "+" is. Niederreiter is not worth anything close to Subban. He can tear the AHL up all he wants but he's still the guy with 1 point in 55 games.

Pierre Dagenais is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:23 AM
  #992
Slatsmsg
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Airdrie
Posts: 554
vCash: 370
If traded, Montreal will want him as far away as possible, ie. Western Conference.

I said in December, and I believe today, Edmonton and Montreal are talking about this and I believe they have been for a while (as far back as September when PK didn't sign before the lockout). I still think Montreal was talking Yakupov which, as every game goes by, will be harder and harder for the Oiler brass and fans to digest if the kid really starts to light it up.

Not only do I think PK doesn't want to sign in Montreal, I think he wants to play in Edmonton (tough time getting that out of my mouth after so many years).

Slatsmsg is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:24 AM
  #993
jhjhjhjhjhjh*
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 441
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeriousHabs View Post
That is 100% irrelevant. Subban can't choose where he gets traded.
The team who trades for him would surely contact him and his agent and ask for what he's demanding in terms of salary and if he wants to sign for their team.

jhjhjhjhjhjh* is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:24 AM
  #994
Johnny Bravo
1st overall again
 
Johnny Bravo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Game on
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,351
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slatsmsg View Post
If traded, Montreal will want him as far away as possible, ie. Western Conference.

I said in December, and I believe today, Edmonton and Montreal are talking about this and I believe they have been for a while (as far back as September when PK didn't sign before the lockout). I still think Montreal was talking Yakupov which, as every game goes by, will be harder and harder for the Oiler brass and fans to digest if the kid really starts to light it up.

Not only do I think PK doesn't want to sign in Montreal, I think he wants to play in Edmonton (tough time getting that out of my mouth after so many years).
I honestly doubt that Subban would want to play in Edmonton.

Plus an unsigned Subban wouldn't even get you within smelling distance of Yakupov.

Johnny Bravo is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:25 AM
  #995
Halifaxhab
Registered User
 
Halifaxhab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Country: Canada
Posts: 8,443
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 View Post


And it is fairly obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. Well done.
agreed. MDZ is an excellent young Dman

Halifaxhab is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:26 AM
  #996
jhjhjhjhjhjh*
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 441
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo View Post
I honestly doubt that Subban would want to play in Edmonton.

Plus an unsigned Subban wouldn't even get you within smelling distance of Yakupov.
I honeslty doubt anyone here has a clue what's going through his head right now...

jhjhjhjhjhjh* is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:26 AM
  #997
MeestaDeteta
Registered User
 
MeestaDeteta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Saskazoo
Posts: 7,377
vCash: 139
What type of offer sheet would it take for Montreal to walk away from Subban?

MeestaDeteta is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:26 AM
  #998
Blind Gardien
Global Moderator
nexus of the crisis
 
Blind Gardien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Four Winds Bar
Country: France
Posts: 19,331
vCash: 500
1000 post limit, continue in Part 2...

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1331633

Blind Gardien is offline  
Old
01-24-2013, 09:26 AM
  #999
The Last Dynasty
Big #1 C
 
The Last Dynasty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: St. OILbert
Country: Canada
Posts: 12,607
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slatsmsg View Post
If traded, Montreal will want him as far away as possible, ie. Western Conference.

I said in December, and I believe today, Edmonton and Montreal are talking about this and I believe they have been for a while (as far back as September when PK didn't sign before the lockout). I still think Montreal was talking Yakupov which, as every game goes by, will be harder and harder for the Oiler brass and fans to digest if the kid really starts to light it up.

Not only do I think PK doesn't want to sign in Montreal, I think he wants to play in Edmonton (tough time getting that out of my mouth after so many years).
based on what?

The Last Dynasty is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:17 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.