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01-24-2013, 09:41 AM
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Move Jordan Subban to wing?

Most NHL clubs will not draft 5'9 defensemen. Jordan Subban clearly has a lot of talent, but if he does indeed stop growing at 5'9ish, it could be better for his career to play wing where several shorter guys have already proven their worth to the NHL. Should he switch?

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01-24-2013, 09:48 AM
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01-24-2013, 09:54 AM
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I don't think so. Look at Francis Boullion. He's 5'8 and has a decent career. All Jordan has to do is to get stronger and he will be alright.

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01-24-2013, 09:57 AM
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If anything I still bet on him as a NHL team... not only because a few smaller guys have made it but Malcolm is 6'2... PK is 6'0. Jordan could still sprout.

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He looked absolutley awful defensively in the prospect game. He might be better served switching to the wing. I mean he obviously could grow into something but I don't see it right now.

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For every one of those guys theres dozens whose size kills them.

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Bit premature don't you think?

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Campbell = 5'11

Ellis = 5'10 Yet to make an impact in the NHL

Timonen = 5'10

Visnovsky = 5'10

All these guys are much more skilled then J.Subban, and for every 1 player that makes it, there are hundreds that don't.

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All these guys are much more skilled then J.Subban, and for every 1 player that makes it, there are hundreds that don't.
I don't know that any of them are more skilled than he is (I wouldn't say that Ellis was a whole lot more skilled at his age — and if you're looking at stats, keep in mind where Belleville is in scoring). Jordan is a VERY skilled, young defenseman. What they are is far more reliable defensively. You can teach a certain amount of defense but for where Subban is right now, it's going to be very tough for him to overcome his size.


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For every one of those guys theres dozens whose size kills them.
And for every 6 foot 3 NHLer, there are dozens of tall guys whose hockey instincts and IQ kill them?

What's your point?

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Campbell = 5'11

Ellis = 5'10 Yet to make an impact in the NHL

Timonen = 5'10

Visnovsky = 5'10

All these guys are much more skilled then J.Subban, and for every 1 player that makes it, there are hundreds that don't.
That's true of any player that ever makes the NHL? Why is it so much more of an issue for small guys than it is for other players?

The NHL is hard to make. 6 foot 3 guys fail just as much as 5 foot 9 guys do...

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Bit premature don't you think?
I'm just saying that there is a precedent for small defensemen having made and had success in the NHL

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01-24-2013, 12:59 PM
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Jordan Subban is only 17, he won't stop growing. He'll probably get around his brothers height. Don't think it'll be a problem.

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01-24-2013, 01:03 PM
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Campbell = 5'11

Ellis = 5'10 Yet to make an impact in the NHL

Timonen = 5'10

Visnovsky = 5'10

All these guys are much more skilled then J.Subban, and for every 1 player that makes it, there are hundreds that don't.
PK was 5'11 when drafted. I'm sure Jordan will probably end up 5'10 or 5'11. Either way, height is over rated. Patrick Kane is taller than Tie Domi, but that doesn't mean he is more physically imposing. In fact, if two guys of equal weight hit each other, it's often the shorter one with the better leverage and balance.

I'm more interested in his frame and whether he could be 200+ one day. Anyone have an idea? As he does seem to be pretty slight.

Either way, his skills are top notch and he won't last past the 2nd I don't think. His upside will be much higher than most other guys in the 2nd round I'd say, even with the risk.

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If anything I still bet on him as a NHL team... not only because a few smaller guys have made it but Malcolm is 6'2... PK is 6'0. Jordan could still sprout.
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I guess he could be a good shot blocker. I'm not sure a goalie will have the skating ability, though. He might become a bit of a project.

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Jordan Subban is only 17, he won't stop growing. He'll probably get around his brothers height. Don't think it'll be a problem.
There's no proof of this. PK was never that short, and Jordan Subban was 5'9 when he was drafted at age 15. He could grow again, but don't count on it. There's as many people who stop growing at 15 as there are people who stop growing at 20. Seth Jones was 6'4 at 14, he's 6'4, maybe a little bigger at 18.

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There's no proof of this. PK was never that short, and Jordan Subban was 5'9 when he was drafted at age 15. He could grow again, but don't count on it. There's as many people who stop growing at 15 as there are people who stop growing at 20. Seth Jones was 6'4 at 14, he's 6'4, maybe a little bigger at 18.
PK skipped 5'9" completely? Amazing he went from 5'8" to 5'10" in an instant

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PK skipped 5'9" completely? Amazing he went from 5'8" to 5'10" in an instant
Not when he was in the OHL. He may have been drafted at that height but he was taller than PK was after that. Jordan has just not grown at all.

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Mike Weaver, Kris Russell, Jared Spurgeon, Tobias Enstrom, Ian White, John Michael Liles all disagree.

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PK skipped 5'9" completely? Amazing he went from 5'8" to 5'10" in an instant
He was actually born at 5'10. His poor mother.

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I guess he could be a good shot blocker. I'm not sure a goalie will have the skating ability, though. He might become a bit of a project.

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He'll be a good Dman IMO.

I've watched a couple Belleville games and he has the talent for sure. Just has to shore up defensively.

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That's true of any player that ever makes the NHL? Why is it so much more of an issue for small guys than it is for other players?

The NHL is hard to make. 6 foot 3 guys fail just as much as 5 foot 9 guys do...
Anyone who suggests that size isnt a huge issue & to illustrate their point gives a bunch of smaller guys as examples is clueless.
Thats my point.

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