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Ottawa Will Look to Move Ben Bishop

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01-24-2013, 10:25 AM
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Bishop to Edmonton for ANA 2nd rounder and a 5th

do it Tambo
This seems fair.

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Per Bob McKenzie tonight

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/con...195438&lang=en

-Says that attempts to trade Ben Bishop have become "convoluted" due to the hold-up on the Luongo trade, that it's "kinda gumming up the works for everybody on the goalie trade market"
-says Robin Lehner's demotion to the AHL is what they've done "for now"
-says that Ottawa knows long-term that they want Anderson and Lehner in goal
-suggests Edmonton would like another goalie to supplement Devan Dubnyk and that Calgary could be looking for an upgrade at the back-up position
-says there is a market but it's not fully formed and that he expects Bishop to be traded in the future

Seeing as Ottawa traded a 2nd round pick for Bishop, I think they'd be looking for that as a minimum, but even more likely would be a defenceman.

Provided everyone stays healthy, I could see something like Theo Peckham (and maybe a pick) for Bishop on Edmonton's side. Gives Ottawa a physical stay-at-home defenceman with a ton of grit for the third pairing. I think Peckham is a lot better than most Oiler fans give him credit for, though I'm not sure what his cache is around the league.

Not sure who Calgary would be offering up. I would think they'd like to move out a defenceman, but who? Giordano, Butler, Brodie and Wideman seem to be the building blocks going forward, Corey Sarich just re-signed last summer, which would leave Jay Bouwmeester, Anton Babchuk and Derek Smith as the odd mean out and I can't imagine Ottawa having much interest in any of them.
I am not usually one for the "friend of a friend told me such and such" but, a good friend of mine with some ties to the Flames told me they were looking at him, and it involved moving Chris Butler..FWIW.

I see Bobby Mac already knew this last night, I was told this during the day yesterday before this was breaking so maybe there is something to what I was told then.

Interesting. I wouldn't mind picking him up at all.

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01-24-2013, 10:30 AM
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We don't want Anaheim's 2nd. They're actually good.
Oh man, I misread that. Thought it was Edmonton's 2nd rounder. Back to the drawing board.

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01-24-2013, 10:41 AM
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Stanton?
If you're looking for a consistent, stay at home guy that can play on the lower end of a defense corps, with leadership, size, and physical play -- which is what I keep reading in this thread -- Stanton can do that right now. He's been Rockford's best defenseman for two years.

If you want more, there's Brookbank, and you could even take a flyer on Montador.

Too much more than that for an unproven goaltender like Bishop and I think Chicago should just walk away. He's not worth Hjalmarsson, especially considering how well Hjalmarsson is playing right now.

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Omark has no value whatsoever. My 10-year old has more value than he does.
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Asset management. They'll easily get more than what they traded away for him, making Murray look like a genius.
Really? He's done nothing since being acquired except he's gotten a year older... I doubt they get more then was given up.

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How about Chris Butler for Bishop.

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Really? He's done nothing since being acquired except he's gotten a year older... I doubt they get more then was given up.
Maybe Bishop hasn't got any better, but the value of a goalie has (arguably) gone up since then.

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We don't want Anaheim's 2nd. They're actually good.
pfft...you realize they're trading Getzlaf and Perry this year PLUS the Oilers are getting better and they BARELY finished ahead of us last year

c'mon, one place in the draft order isn't THAT much...we're throwing in a 5th rounder

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You guys do realize any team that wants a goalie just has to wait until the off-season to grab Michal Neuvirth or Braden Holtby, right?

One of them will be replaced with a veteran.

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You guys do realize any team that wants a goalie just has to wait until the off-season to grab Michal Neuvirth or Braden Holtby, right?

One of them will be replaced with a veteran.
And in the meantime while these teams circle the drain?

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Bishop for Franson or Kostka?
Why would the leafs do this???I would'nt even trade Mark Frasher for Ben bishop


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And in the meantime while these teams circle the drain?
They're not going anywhere now, they might as well try out some young guys and get a higher draft pick.

The only realistic teams trying to pick up Ben Bishop are Calgary. Edmonton isn't going to piss away Dubnyk for Bishop if they can get Luongo. Phoenix needs more pieces than a goaltender.

Calgary is the only one that is a competitor in my mind. Florida has Markstrom, Columbus Bobrovsky. Calgary is not a playoff team.

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They're not going anywhere now, they might as well try out some young guys and get a higher draft pick.
Yeah, that mentality doesn't really apply to real GMs I don't think - especially this early in a season.

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What the hell has Ben Bishop ever done to warrant a Cody Franson.

Come on now.

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Yeah, that mentality doesn't really apply to real GMs I don't think - especially this early in a season.
Look at what I just posted.

It's pointless getting Ben Bishop if you can ride a shortened season and possibly get a franchise goaltender in Holtby or Neuvirth. Plus any team that is trying to fill a goaltender hole and is close to the playoffs is going for Luongo.

Toronto is another mention but in my mind they would be better waiting. Especially now with Lupul's concerns, they can't really afford to plug in a young goaltender and slaughter his career.

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Look at what I just posted.

It's pointless getting Ben Bishop if you can ride a shortened season and possibly get a franchise goaltender in Holtby or Neuvirth. Plus any team that is trying to fill a goaltender hole and is close to the playoffs is going for Luongo.

Toronto is another mention but in my mind they would be better waiting. Especially now with Lupul's concerns, they can't really afford to plug in a young goaltender and slaughter his career.

So Bishop is just another scrub but Holtby and Neuvirth are potential franchise goalies?

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I'm assuming Calgary has no interest in Luongo... so I don't see why that would "gum up" any trades between Calgary and Ottawa for Bishop.

Makes sense, Calgary needs a backup. Ottawa probably prefers to trade out of conference.
The Flames have two of the hottest goalies in the AHL playing on their farm team. If they're that worried about their backup position I don't understand why they just don't sign one of them.

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So Bishop is just another scrub but Holtby and Neuvirth are potential franchise goalies?
Have you watched them play? What has Bishop done, if anything? He's played how many games again?

Holtby at his best is lights out and could be a future top 5 goaltender. Neuvirth is almost Varlamov level. He's at least played a half a season in the NHL. Holtby has had huge playoff success.

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Look at what I just posted.

It's pointless getting Ben Bishop if you can ride a shortened season and possibly get a franchise goaltender in Holtby or Neuvirth. Plus any team that is trying to fill a goaltender hole and is close to the playoffs is going for Luongo.

Toronto is another mention but in my mind they would be better waiting. Especially now with Lupul's concerns, they can't really afford to plug in a young goaltender and slaughter his career.
Huh!!!! James Riemer is 24 and Ben scrivens is 25,put together those 2 dont even have 2 full seasons

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Huh!!!! James Riemer is 24 and Ben scrivens is 25,put together those 2 dont even have 2 full seasons
I meant another young goaltender, they are already slaughtering those guys' careers

They need a vet and to build Reimer/Schrivens/Someone else

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The Leafs aren't going to go after Ben Bishop.

Team has played excellent defense, they are so far giving up very few shots, I can count the number of scoring chances teams have gotten with my finger.

Reimer/Scrivens will remain the co-starters IMO. Healthy competition usually brings out the best in any player...hopefully they can keep it going.

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I meant another young goaltender, they are already slaughtering those guys' careers

They need a vet and to build Reimer/Schrivens/Someone else
.931 goaltending...Leafs playing fantastic defense and they rank top 5 in fewest shots allowed, and GAA.

Small sample size of course but the Leafs are astronomically better on defense under Carlyle this year.

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The Leafs aren't going to go after Ben Bishop.

Team has played excellent defense, they are so far giving up very few shots, I can count the number of scoring chances teams have gotten with my finger.

Reimer/Scrivens will remain the co-starters IMO. Healthy competition usually brings out the best in any player...hopefully they can keep it going.
I was just trying to appeal to some people here

I really think the only team that really "wants" him is Calgary. Edmonton I would think would go after Luongo or just wait until FA. Columbus seems happy with their netminders for now.

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.931 goaltending...Leafs playing fantastic defense and they rank top 5 in fewest shots allowed, and GAA.

Small sample size of course but the Leafs are astronomically better on defense under Carlyle this year.
Two/three games lol.

Like I said, they might switch netminders eventually but they've got other holes to fill right now.

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