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01-23-2013, 08:25 PM
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Who would you guys take now?

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01-23-2013, 09:03 PM
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Seeing as how Holland hasn't played as a result of Boudreau experimenting with Rakell on the fourth line, I'm not gonna pass judgement yet.

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01-23-2013, 09:12 PM
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I've just realized that no matter what Kadri does, he's never going to get recognized by HFBoards. He'll keep proving everybody wrong, like he's done in the juniors, then in the AHL, and now in the NHL.

They were talking about Spezza giving him advice over the summer and how the AHL helped him become a better player.

Just look at an elite guy like Spezza, he didn't become the player he is today from the day he was drafted, he was up and down and he worked hard in the AHL, something that Kadri has always done.

Obviously, Spezza >> Kadri, I'm just saying that it doesn't matter if it takes 2-3 years to get to the NHL, as long as you get there and have an impact.

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01-23-2013, 09:15 PM
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Holland AINEC.

Should be a solid 2nd line center.
Ainec. LOL

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01-23-2013, 09:25 PM
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I'm a Leafs fan and I haven't seen a lot of Holland. That being said, given their production, and after seeing Kadri A LOT, I'm comfortable with Kadri right now. That doesn't mean Holland won't become better.

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01-23-2013, 09:26 PM
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I'll still take Holland. Does not mean Kadri is a bad player. I just prefer Holland steady two way game instead of flash.

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01-23-2013, 09:30 PM
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Holland will be getting his chance soon, save the "LOL TOLD U SO"s for a couple more weeks

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01-23-2013, 09:31 PM
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Haven't seen a ton of Holland but from what I've seen from Nazem this year, he's looked pretty damn good and fits right in in the NHL. Every level Kadri's played at, he's excelled. The argument that he's never really cracked the Leafs is such a weak argument considering he's just a kid. The Devils and Wings don't rush their prospects and they're known as two of the best development systems in the league.

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01-23-2013, 10:07 PM
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Is Kadri playing center or wing this year?

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01-23-2013, 10:10 PM
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Is Kadri playing center or wing this year?
Centre

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01-23-2013, 10:20 PM
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Is Kadri playing center or wing this year?
He's playing center but can't win a face off to save his life. 1 for 8 today. Terribad.

It impairs that third line significantly.

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01-23-2013, 10:37 PM
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Kadri's been very good through 3 games. Carlyle even used him (a little bit) on the PK vs the Pens. Coming along just fine

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01-23-2013, 10:46 PM
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He's playing center but can't win a face off to save his life. 1 for 8 today. Terribad.

It impairs that third line significantly.
He was like 55% against Buffalo. Terribad? Maybe. Inconsistent? Probably the better word.

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He's playing center but can't win a face off to save his life. 1 for 8 today. Terribad.

It impairs that third line significantly.
He was over 50% against the Sabres.

You do know that he went up against Crosby, Malkin and Sutter right?

Those guys have probably took about 100x more faceoffs than Kadri.

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01-23-2013, 10:51 PM
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Kadri has been a beast thus far.

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01-23-2013, 10:56 PM
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Just noticed that their career ppg in the AHL is unbelievably similar.

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Still Holland. He will get his chance.

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01-24-2013, 02:35 AM
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I've just realized that no matter what Kadri does, he's never going to get recognized by HFBoards. He'll keep proving everybody wrong, like he's done in the juniors, then in the AHL, and now in the NHL.
Cry me a river, he hasn't even stuck to the Leafs of all teams for a full season yet.

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01-24-2013, 11:40 AM
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I've just realized that no matter what Kadri does, he's never going to get recognized by HFBoards. He'll keep proving everybody wrong, like he's done in the juniors, then in the AHL, and now in the NHL.

They were talking about Spezza giving him advice over the summer and how the AHL helped him become a better player.

Just look at an elite guy like Spezza, he didn't become the player he is today from the day he was drafted, he was up and down and he worked hard in the AHL, something that Kadri has always done.

Obviously, Spezza >> Kadri, I'm just saying that it doesn't matter if it takes 2-3 years to get to the NHL, as long as you get there and have an impact.
Curse of being in a heavily media centred market.

Kessel is top 10 in scoring and it's still not enough. It's easier to find something wrong with a player than admit wrongness...

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01-24-2013, 11:44 AM
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Kadri has been a beast thus far.
Cool those jets. I've watched him play twice. He's looked good. Hardly beastly.

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01-24-2013, 02:14 PM
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They've put up eerily similar stats in the AHL. Both scoring around a .9 PPG. I prefer Holland's style of play to Kadri, but I don't think you could go wrong either way.

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01-24-2013, 02:55 PM
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Cool those jets. I've watched him play twice. He's looked good. Hardly beastly.
He's played 10ish mins a night and is noticeable every time he's on the ice offensively.

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He's played 10ish mins a night and is noticeable every time he's on the ice offensively.
That doesn't make a player a beast. Palmieri has looked incredible on the top line. I'm not calling him a beast.

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01-24-2013, 09:04 PM
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I'll still take Holland. Does not mean Kadri is a bad player. I just prefer Holland steady two way game instead of flash.
You clearly haven't watched Kadri this season.

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5 points in 4 games playing limited minutes. Drawing penalties like a crayon. Kadri for me please.

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