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01-24-2013, 12:49 PM
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If he's hurt why would he leave the team and terminate the contract and hence giving up the money? Is it because he didn't want to stay in Russia to re-hab the injury? Do they even make him stay in Russia?

1. He's hurt, doesn't want to stay in Russia to re-hab which the team requires if he wants to be paid.
2. He's not loving Russia and just wants to go home.
3. He's close to a deal with Colorado and is heading home.

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4. He's close to being traded.

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01-24-2013, 01:04 PM
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I wonder what he could fetch Col in a trade. Similar to Turris?

Turris have more talent/potential but was perhaps a bit more damaged goods then ROR.

I hope Nonis have a close eye on the development even do the Leafs currently dont have much we can trade. We need our top picks and the talent pool is not deep enough. However, centers are a weakness for us and even do ROR is not the first line C we all want he would for sure make us a better team.

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01-24-2013, 01:06 PM
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I wonder what he could fetch Col in a trade. Similar to Turris?

Turris have more talent/potential but was perhaps a bit more damaged goods then ROR.

I hope Nonis have a close eye on the development even do the Leafs currently dont have much we can trade. We need our top picks and the talent pool is not deep enough. However, centers are a weakness for us and even do ROR is not the first line C we all want he would for sure make us a better team.
I think it is arguable that Turris has more talent/potential given the full scope of their respective games. ROR is certainly more proven at this point in time.

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01-24-2013, 01:11 PM
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Maybe his dad will tweet that he's disappointed in not going to Russia now...what an idiot

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I think it is arguable that Turris has more talent/potential given the full scope of their respective games. ROR is certainly more proven at this point in time.
What I meant was that Turris have Spezza kind of potential while RoR seem to be more of a Bolland kind of player. Both kinds are great to have on your team but of course the skill guys are harder to acquire.

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01-24-2013, 01:41 PM
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O'Reilly is 21 and already has a 55 point season under his belt. Bolland has never topped 47. O'Reilly is better than Bolland already, and should continue to improve.

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I wouldn't do this personally as a leaf fan. Gardiner is a young player we need to keep! O'Reilly isn't exactly the type of centre we need anyway.I'd definitely offer Gardiner+ for Duchene though.
Wow!!!! thanks for sharing your hockey knowledge with us!!! And thanks for the laugh!!!!


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01-24-2013, 01:48 PM
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O'Reilly is 21 and already has a 55 point season under his belt. Bolland has never topped 47. O'Reilly is better than Bolland already, and should continue to improve.
If you're judging how good of a player Dave Bolland is based on his point totals - then you don't really know what his game is about.

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If you're judging how good of a player Dave Bolland is based on his point totals - then you don't really know what his game is about.
The problem is that the same goes for ROR. Ryan has a Selke or three in his future. So the comparison is not that far off. I would take ROR at 21 over Bolland without thinking but maybe I am a homer...

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01-24-2013, 01:58 PM
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If you're judging how good of a player Dave Bolland is based on his point totals - then you don't really know what his game is about.
I know exactly what Bolland's game is about. But O'Reilly brings that same game, with a higher point total, and is five years younger.

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If you're judging how good of a player Dave Bolland is based on his point totals - then you don't really know what his game is about.
As with O'Reilly.

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According to rsport.ru, the club released O'Reilly from the deal because of fears that he would return to North America at some point after the KHL signing window closes on Jan. 31. O'Reilly had signed a two-year deal with Metallurg last month, but it contained an out clause allowing him to leave if offered more money by a NHL franchise, according to the report.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/blogpost.htm?...d=nhl:topheads

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If you're judging how good of a player Dave Bolland is based on his point totals - then you don't really know what his game is about.
Maybe he should have included the points from last year's Selke results too....

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I think it is arguable that Turris has more talent/potential given the full scope of their respective games. ROR is certainly more proven at this point in time.
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What I meant was that Turris have Spezza kind of potential while RoR seem to be more of a Bolland kind of player. Both kinds are great to have on your team but of course the skill guys are harder to acquire.
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O'Reilly is 21 and already has a 55 point season under his belt. Bolland has never topped 47. O'Reilly is better than Bolland already, and should continue to improve.
Exactly. The above posts are kinda hilarious.

Want to know how many points Spezza had in the NHL at age 20? 55! SAME AS RoR! Except Spezza got to play with Alfie, Havlat, Hossa, etc. Whereas RoR LEAD his team in points.

And yet these posters are comparing Turris, who is TWO years older than RoR with a career high in points that is 26 points LESS than RoR, and comparing him to Spezza, while RoR put up the same points Spezza did at his age.

Pretty big head scratcher. Oh wait no! I figured it out. Turris is a 3rd overall pick. RoR is a 2nd rounder. Therefore 5-6 years after being drafted (Turris), ignore everything the players have done, and value is Turris >>>> RoR. Right.

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What I meant was that Turris have Spezza kind of potential while RoR seem to be more of a Bolland kind of player. Both kinds are great to have on your team but of course the skill guys are harder to acquire.
So O'Reilly who is just as good defensively as Bolland, puts up more points, is younger, looks like Bolland. While Turris, who is not as good defensively as ROR, is older, and has not even come close to 55 points, somehow looks like Spezza? You've never watched O'Reilly clearly. Or even looked at stats. What are you basing this off? Draft position?

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Exactly. The above posts are kinda hilarious.

Want to know how many points Spezza had in the NHL at age 20? 55! SAME AS RoR! Except Spezza got to play with Alfie, Havlat, Hossa, etc. Whereas RoR LEAD his team in points.

And yet these posters are comparing Turris, who is TWO years older than RoR with a career high in points that is 26 points LESS than RoR, and comparing him to Spezza, while RoR put up the same points Spezza did at his age.

Pretty big head scratcher. Oh wait no! I figured it out. Turris is a 3rd overall pick. RoR is a 2nd rounder. Therefore 5-6 years after being drafted (Turris), ignore everything the players have done, and value is Turris >>>> RoR. Right.
This is pure logic. Who cares where player were drafted? Leafer 1 the others 0

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Interested in putting together something around the rights to ROR and Gormley?

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Interested in putting together something around the rights to ROR and Gormley?
Sure as long as Hanzal comes with Gormley... Considering that Gormley is completely unproven and we are not looking for futures.

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Sure as long as Hanzal comes with Gormley... Considering that Gormley is completely unproven and we are not looking for futures.
Are you serious?

Hanzal is worth almost ROR by himself. The best package with hanzal that would be available would be adding Summers or Stone....

BTW, Gormley would probably out-perform every single one of your D next season (this includes EJ)..

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Are you serious?

Hanzal is worth almost ROR by himself. The best package with hanzal that would be available would be adding Summers or Stone....

BTW, Gormley would probably out-perform every single one of your D next season (this includes EJ)..
The problem in bold, that's not exactly a guarantee is it? And including EJ in that statement is a bit off, but you probably haven't watched EJ this season or the later half of last season.

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Are you serious?

Hanzal is worth almost ROR by himself. The best package with hanzal that would be available would be adding Summers or Stone....

BTW, Gormley would probably out-perform every single one of your D next season (this includes EJ)..
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Thanks for the laugh

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Wow!!!! thanks for sharing your hockey knowledge with us!!! And thanks for the laugh!!!!
Woah take er easy bud.

Nothing against O'Reilly, but if were trading Gardiner its in a package for a playmaking centre.

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The problem in bold, that's not exactly a guarantee is it? And including EJ in that statement is a bit off, but you probably haven't watched EJ this season or the later half of last season.
EJ is about to enter what are supposed to be his peak years, but he is still miles away from his draft billing. Gormley at this point certainly has a higher ceiling than him now. Even though Gormley is not a sure thing at this point, he's about as good a D with potential as you can hope for at this point, without trying to sell the farm and go for someone like Weber/Doughty/Pietrangelo/Karlsson. His value to ROR is pretty close....

How about Hanzal + Klesla For RoR + 3rd; might be beneficial for both sides?

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Woah take er easy bud.

Nothing against O'Reilly, but if were trading Gardiner its in a package for a playmaking centre.
Which RoR could very easily be. Don't kid yourself, if RoR is on the block, Tor is interested. Very interested. Its already all over twitter

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Woah take er easy bud.

Nothing against O'Reilly, but if were trading Gardiner its in a package for a playmaking centre.
That basically means that you are not trading Gardiner at all.
No one is trading such a center. Especially not for only Gardiner and pieces

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