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01-24-2013, 06:17 PM
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Value of E.Johnson?

Personally Myers, Carlson, Hedman and Erik Johnson are my favorite defenders.

How high is Eriks value to Colorado right now?

someone mentioned to me a package containing
a 2nd line sniper prospect
conditional 1/2nd round pick
proven NHL blueliner with approx 2x the goals scored last season as Erik who is also younger than Johnson
and a former 1st round pick defenseman w/ leadership and grit who is as big and strong as Johnson.
4 for 1 deals rarely work out for the team giving up the 4 but Johnson is that rare combo of speed/size/ intangibles that is next to impossible to find.

MY perspective is the package is decent in value but the Avs really have only 1 major need and thats to get R.0-Reilly back 100%

the loss of downie is not the end of any line since its a very deep team.

Thoughts-- a package like that enough to land Erik Maybe...but I love to see him fly around the ice and backcheck the heck out of opposition teams.

W/ the Canucks floundering badly w/o Kesler and not getting any cap relief until a potential Luongo deal is finalized, the Avs can battle their way to a div lead if the Wild don't beat them to it.


If the return for Johnson is that good some GM's would be willing to make the deal(the CBJ are doing fine w/o Nash and he brought back something like 2 regulars, 1 pick +1 former 1st rounder and the comparison fits since Nash is also a former 1st overall pick)


thoughts if a blockbuster proposal comes through does it strengthen the team short term...this next few months probably not

but by next season the return should be considerable

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01-24-2013, 06:19 PM
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Based on what Colorado gave up for him, they are not going to be trading him anytime soon. They would literally need two top defenders for him and then some.

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01-24-2013, 06:20 PM
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On this team? More than anybody in the league not named Weber, Suter, Crosby, Malkin, Karlsson, etc. Without Johnson this terrible defense is much, much worse. No way the Avs could trade him for anything less than an upgrade to the defense.

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Our 2nd most valuable player because he is our only defender who can play hockey. Also no to the proposed deal.

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Personally Myers, Carlson, Hedman and Erik Johnson are my favorite defenders.

How high is Eriks value to Colorado right now?

someone mentioned to me a package containing
a 2nd line sniper prospect
conditional 1/2nd round pick
proven NHL blueliner with approx 2x the goals scored last season as Erik who is also younger than Johnson
and a former 1st round pick defenseman w/ leadership and grit who is as big and strong as Johnson.
4 for 1 deals rarely work out for the team giving up the 4 but Johnson is that rare combo of speed/size/ intangibles that is next to impossible to find.

MY perspective is the package is decent in value but the Avs really have only 1 major need and thats to get R.0-Reilly back 100%

the loss of downie is not the end of any line since its a very deep team.

Thoughts-- a package like that enough to land Erik Maybe...but I love to see him fly around the ice and backcheck the heck out of opposition teams.

W/ the Canucks floundering badly w/o Kesler and not getting any cap relief until a potential Luongo deal is finalized, the Avs can battle their way to a div lead if the Wild don't beat them to it.


If the return for Johnson is that good some GM's would be willing to make the deal(the CBJ are doing fine w/o Nash and he brought back something like 2 regulars, 1 pick +1 former 1st rounder and the comparison fits since Nash is also a former 1st overall pick)


thoughts if a blockbuster proposal comes through does it strengthen the team short term...this next few months probably not

but by next season the return should be considerable

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01-24-2013, 06:34 PM
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He's our only defenceman sorry bud.

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01-24-2013, 06:38 PM
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He also has a great contract. Four years for under $4M/year.

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Erik is staying for awhile.

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01-24-2013, 07:19 PM
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Johnson is too valuable to the club to even consider trading.

We don't have anyone else with his potential.

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Do you take Erik Johnson or you prefer to have Cam Fowler ?

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Komisarek + 4th

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Komisarek + 4th
This is Johnson not Stastny.

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do you take erik johnson or you prefer to have cam fowler ?
EJ very easily.

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Do you take Erik Johnson or you prefer to have Cam Fowler ?
The one who actually plays defense.

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E.Johnson is very good player already. I can't believe he's so young. He's going to be good.

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Do you take Erik Johnson or you prefer to have Cam Fowler ?
McIlrath AINEC.

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Do you take Erik Johnson or you prefer to have Cam Fowler ?
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His value to the avs is much higher tan his value would be to other teams. We would have to get back a number one defenseman plus some other pieces. No other gm would make that trade. He's our only good dman. We can't afford to trade him.

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How high is Eriks value to Colorado right now?
If our GM were to trade EJ, he should be fired immediately

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EJ's value's insanely high to us right now. Not just because he's one of our best players in general, right behind Varly, but he's also our best defenseman by a massive margin. Only way i could imagine him getting traded is with one of our wingers for two young first pairing guys, like both Kulikov and Gudbranson, otherwise there's no way to rationalize giving up EJ unless we're getting a Malkin, Crosby or better young defenseman back.

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Our defence is a huge joke without EJ

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01-26-2013, 08:14 AM
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As a swede i'd say he's most important after Landeskog hopefully never see the news of him being traded.

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A couple of nights ago on RDS they were talking about PK Subban ( like always ) and they had a list of Dman that would have +/- the same value of PK . EJ was on that list and they all agreed, that in a trade , EJ have less value than PK on a 1on 1 deal. If the offer for PK was on the table for the Avs that Sherman should pull the trigger.

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I just don't see how PK could do all EJ can do for us. Maybe put up more poiints but EJ has that potential at worst i see EJ like Suter with more size/speed

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