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01-25-2013, 12:14 AM
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As a huge Richards fan, the onus is on him for that last penalty. Two, too many men on the ice penalties? Lame.
Sorry, its not. The player coming off the bench HAS TO WAIT until he's within 5 or so feet of the bench before jumping on and playing the puck. Stoll was on the ice and skating before Richards even reached the centerline.


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01-25-2013, 12:15 AM
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Stanley cup champions that was last year. This is a new short season, every game matters, we are losing to LAST season bottom feeders. How do you expect people to take it easy? We arent doing ANYTHING positive from our top 2 lines. I might be pissed but man, do i want richards gone ASAP. He's not what I thought he was. Atleast carter is doing something but richards has been nothing short of invisible. What a disgrace for the hype he rode to town with.
Colorado beat us every game last year too.. So not sure why people are surprised we lost there..

That said cannot expect to win averaging slightly over 1 goal per game..

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01-25-2013, 12:15 AM
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I'd imagine Sutter is just venting to try and foster a "it's us against the world" mentality amongst the team to wake them up and get them going because the refs sucked for both teams but got the two biggest calls right - waiving off EDM goal and too many men on Kings in OT.

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01-25-2013, 12:15 AM
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I would rewind to see myself but I don't have that type of luxury, haha.

But, I mean.. if it's the right call.. it's the right call. I think he should be taking his frustration out on the team. But, then again.. that might be too much. I'm sure the comments will be hilarious either way.
Sometimes a Coach feels the need to stick up for his team.

Maybe Sutter feels the time is right.

You can only beat down the players so much, at some point they will tune you out.

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01-25-2013, 12:15 AM
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Sutter:

On all the penalties: “It’s got to be a record for no five-on-five play. That’s got to be a record.”

On his team’s overall play: “Oh I thought we played well…we hit three posts. It’s 1-0 and we had all those chances to make it 2-0…with all the power plays. It’s tough to win on the road.”

Classic Sutter, always backing the team when things aren't going their way. As much as I wanted him to snarl and growl, this is the way he was all last season and it turned out pretty well.

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on the bright side...the phoenix game will be our first division rival game...

if we win 80% of those...we're fine

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01-25-2013, 12:15 AM
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worst officiated game i've ever seen as an oilers fan, and we've had some bad ones.

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since the refs were calling everything, shouldn't they have called delay of game for the trash on the ice?
Would have been the right call...... Been called on the kings a couple of times.

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01-25-2013, 12:16 AM
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Sorry guys I know you'll rebound though, the Kings are still a great team - just need to shake some of the rust off.

Thanks for the hospitality!

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Well I think the last one in OT was borderline. I think Sutter probably feels that shouldn't be called in OT.

Sutter had Murder in his eye's after that call.

I am not sure if it was directed at Richards or the Ref's.
That play has to be called, especially in a game like that where they were calling everything else.

Some blame falls on Richards, who looked like Ryan Smyth skating to the bench. But Stoll has to know better than to touch that puck. But again, that would require game sense.

Sutter has every right to be furious at the efforts of his players, in particular Richards. But he deserves some blame too, 4 goals in 3 games, 0 for the season on the PP, two blown leads going into the 3rd, players being grossly overused and put into positions they don't belong.

When the Kings are defending a 1 goal lead in the final 10 seconds, Anze Kopitar has to be on the ice, not Jarret *** Stoll. Kopitar is the Kings best defensive forward and smartest forward. To have him on the bench in favor of Stoll is terrible terrible coaching.

I am a huge Sutter fan, but he kind of needs to look in the mirror for some of the troubles so far.

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01-25-2013, 12:17 AM
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Sorry, its not. The player coming off the bench HAS TO WAIT until he's within 5 or so feet of the bench before jumping on and playing the puck. Stoll was on the ice and skating before Richards even reached the centerline.

Thanks for posting this because that is exactly what I thought happened. I even said it out loud (to nobody in particular) NICE JOB STOLL!!! and then the call.

MR clearly wasn't even close to the bench. I think it could be argued that he should have been there more quickly but he was way too far away for JS to be where he was.

We are out of sync but that will change in in quick order.

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Sometimes a Coach feels the need to stick up for his team.

Maybe Sutter feels the time is right.

You can only beat down the players so much, at some point they will tune you out.
Very true. The refs weren't any good for both sides. The Kings know what they did wrong. I'm sure this loss did nothing for the Kings confidence and that's the really ****** part.

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Sorry guys I know you'll rebound though, the Kings are still a great team - just need to shake some of the rust off.

Thanks for the hospitality!
You are more than welcomed, come by and chat anytime.

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01-25-2013, 12:18 AM
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Sorry, its not. The player coming off the bench HAS TO WAIT until he's within 5 or so feet of the bench before jumping on and playing the puck. Stoll was on the ice and skating before Richards even reached the centerline.

It's on both of them - something so simple they learned it as peewees: don't jump on early and always hustle to the bench.

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01-25-2013, 12:19 AM
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That play has to be called, especially in a game like that where they were calling everything else.

Some blame falls on Richards, who looked like Ryan Smyth skating to the bench. But Stoll has to know better than to touch that puck. But again, that would require game sense.

Sutter has every right to be furious at the efforts of his players, in particular Richards. But he deserves some blame too, 4 goals in 3 games, 0 for the season on the PP, two blown leads going into the 3rd, players being grossly overused and put into positions they don't belong.

When the Kings are defending a 1 goal lead in the final 10 seconds, Anze Kopitar has to be on the ice, not Jarret *** Stoll. Kopitar is the Kings best defensive forward and smartest forward. To have him on the bench in favor of Stoll is terrible terrible coaching.

I am a huge Sutter fan, but he kind of needs to look in the mirror for some of the troubles so far.
That was Stoll's strong side for faceoffs. It makes sense to have him out there for one he can win on his backhand. As someone who has played center for a long time, there is a huge difference between trying to win a draw on your strong side versus your weak side. Stoll was the right choice, but it's his fault for losing it so cleanly.

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worst officiated game i've ever seen as an oilers fan, and we've had some bad ones.
Yep but it didn't seem to be in favor of one team over the other or at least it could be argued equally that the officiating was below standard by both teams so what can you do?

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Quick was awesome, At least we have that.

You know Quick will be spitting nails after that game. He takes losing games like that personal.

I expect he will be Awesome against the Nucks.

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01-25-2013, 12:21 AM
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So the Kings won 35 faceoffs to the Oilers' 34. Apparently not when it mattered. Seemed to me the Oil won them at the most important times.

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Yep but it didn't seem to be in favor of one team over the other or at least it could be argued equally that the officiating was below standard by both teams so what can you do?
I'm hoping the nhl doesn't do more damage to the game by calling 60+ minutes of penilities a night making it nearly unwatchable.

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01-25-2013, 12:23 AM
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Anyone happen to have a link to Sutter's post game press conference?

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01-25-2013, 12:24 AM
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Thanks for posting this because that is exactly what I thought happened. I even said it out loud (to nobody in particular) NICE JOB STOLL!!! and then the call.

MR clearly wasn't even close to the bench. I think it could be argued that he should have been there more quickly but he was way too far away for JS to be where he was.

We are out of sync but that will change in in quick order.
Sure Richards could have gotten back quicker, but Stoll is already 10 ft off the bench before he plays the puck at the redline.

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01-25-2013, 12:24 AM
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Supposedly Darryl is not happy, at all.

@dantencer: Sutter just came walking down the hallway looking for the officials. Only reason he'd be down this far. Long way from Kings room.

@dantencer: Will air Darryl Sutter on CHED as soon as we can bleep out the f-bomb...

@dantencer: My visitors dressing room guy just came back from Sutter scrum and told me "you're gonna wanna run that...he's gonna get fined"
I hope his anger was at the team more than the refs.

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01-25-2013, 12:26 AM
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The Coyotes lost 5-3, I feel a little better.

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01-25-2013, 12:26 AM
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That was Stoll's strong side for faceoffs. It makes sense to have him out there for one he can win on his backhand. As someone who has played center for a long time, there is a huge difference between trying to win a draw on your strong side versus your weak side. Stoll was the right choice, but it's his fault for losing it so cleanly.
I understand that. But then, as someone else said, Stoll tried to go forward with the puck both times there were faceoffs on that PK. So that totally negates that. Also, even the best FO guys in the league don't win a huge percentage of draws, and if you don't win the draw you suddenly have Jarret Stoll, a subpar defender out there in the final 10 seconds. Hell, if you want a RH shot out there use Lewis or Carter to go forward with the draw, and even if they don't clear it they have a clue what's going on.

And then we get to OT, why is Stoll skating a shift in OT? The Kings just drastically overuse a player who is just not very good. It's bad enough he never scores, he takes stupid penalties and lost 2 key faceoffs tonight, the one thing he used to do good.

I just hate how certain players are scapegoated (Penner) and others who play even crappier like Stoll and Richards don't even see any ice time reduction, much less any press box time.

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