what is his floor then? you are implying that his floor is less than top 30 at center, which given his two way game, seems highly improbable IMO.
"Complete" is the first thing that comes to mind about MacKinnon. I'd put his absolute floor at 3rd liner Kesler (~15 min/night, 10-20 goal variety), with only slightly less defensive/more offensive inclination; before 3rd liner Kesler turned into semi-beast mode Kesler (20 min/night, 25-40 goal, ~70 point variety). Having said that, his ceiling could be "only" semi-beast mode Kesler honestly, lol. MacKinnon's game will be much more appreciated in the NHL, despite having it's obvious advantages right now against younger, smaller junior players.
Stamkos has actually exceeded expectations which is not usual of a 1st overall pick. Tavares was a greater prospect than Stamkos or MacKinnon and will soon be in the NHL's elite along with Stamkos.
Tavares was that until the last 4-6 months before the actual draft, he was over scrutinized. Stamkos was a sure fire first overall, where as Tavares had small (quite small imo) question marks of Hedman/Duchene passing him
I agree. I do think MacKinnon has a slight edge in a few respects. I like his balance better, and his defensive game is ahead of where Hall's was at the same time, not that I would put much weight on the latter anyway. I do think he is a smarter player than Hall overall, while he does not play quite as physical a game (although it's still excellent for this type of talent).
I have high hopes for MacKinnon. If he ends up at the same level as Hall, then the team that drafts him will be ecstatic. As much as I am loving the Galchenyuk pick for Montreal, I think MacKinnon is a true game breaking forward that would work perfectly for Montreal in a 1-2 punch scenario down the middle. Of course, this is assuming Montreal somehow gets in a position to take him.
Tge way they are playing so far you can likely go pre order your MacKinnon jersey now.
Hall is fast, but Nate definitely takes this. You're probably right about the physical game, but that could change once Nate matures. I still think Hall with better hands is a good comparison.
MacKinnon's first few steps are insane.
Their skating styles are different though. Both have high top end speed. The way Hall skates make him look "slower" when he could be just as fast, if not faster. Nate's skating, his "hustle" looks more active, hence, perceived faster.
About as likely as the chances of me going home with Miranda Cosgrove and Brittany Snow. There really are no holes in MacKinnon's game and his elite skating is really what makes it pretty much impossible.
They aren't comets. Most comets are at least a few hundred metres across and are much rarer than asteroids, meteors, and general space debris. That said, there's a much greater chance that MacKinnon will be a bust, though I think he was being facetious.
I never said they were comets. Was just pointing out that space 'stuff' hitting earth is probably more common than he realized.
You'd think he would though, considering he's better at hockey than all of them not named RNH.
Anyways, he's not going to "bust". He'll have a regular spot in the NHL regardless of production. He's big and skates better than many NHLers. Only thing that'll determine top 6 or bottom 6 is if he suddenly becomes stupid.
Exhibit A as to how hockey doesn't matter on ESPN:
Last night an ESPN program was discussing how the Detroit Pistons needed a hero citing the heroes on the Detroit Tigers, Detroit Lions and no mention of the Detroit Red Wings. All this despite the Red Wings probably being the most succesful team in Detroit right now.