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01-24-2013, 09:43 PM
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Savard
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2nd

For

Hall
Smid

This is what it looks like to us.
Let's be fair. Throw Soderberg in.

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01-24-2013, 10:26 PM
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disagree with bolded and Im an Oiler fan.

Whitney is a pending UFA and has clearly lost a step in his game.
Hemsky looks good so far but wont fetch us any more than Ference let alone Lucic..
If I was BOS I would bashfully decline this proposal
His response was directed at a different post and not the op

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01-24-2013, 10:40 PM
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Horrible for the Bruins; Lucic is untouchable

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01-24-2013, 10:44 PM
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Horton instead of Lucic since he is also injury prone and minus the defenceman and make that a 3rd rounder.

Hemsky-Krejci duo.

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01-24-2013, 10:51 PM
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Boston must respectfully decline.
Looch won't be leaving for an offer like that.
For that offer you dont even get 'respectful'.....

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01-24-2013, 11:13 PM
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I'm an Edmonton fan but Boston easily declines.

The only think that works is Whitney would suit Boston. IF Hemsky returns to ~PPG form then it'd probably be a fair trade.

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01-25-2013, 01:32 AM
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Lucic is a top 3 forward in Boston now. So look at giving one of those up in return and just to be fair, one of your top four. Then add a bit more and you are probably looking at it.

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01-25-2013, 01:39 AM
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Why is it the same three posters or a new poster making these ridiculous proposals that are heavily favoured for the Oilers. Its embarrassing.
Lucic for Yakupov is fair value but would never happen...especially after tonight #yakcity

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01-25-2013, 01:42 AM
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Why is it the same three posters or a new poster making these ridiculous proposals that are heavily favoured for the Oilers. Its embarrassing.
Lucic for Yakupov is fair value but would never happen...especially after tonight #yakcity
Lucic and Yakupov would be a fair value trade. Yakupov's ceiling is higher while Lucic can give you 30 and 35 and scare the living **** out of other teams. In that division wouldn't be such a bad thing

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01-25-2013, 02:15 AM
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Savard
Thomas
2nd

For

Hall
Smid

This is what it looks like to us.
Again, if your trying to "teach us a lesson", youre failing horribly.

Hemsky>>Savard
Whitney>Thomas
EDM 2nd>BOS 2nd

Hall=Lucic
Smid>>Ference

At least make the proposal similar if you are going to try and teach us a lesson

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01-25-2013, 02:26 AM
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Again, if your trying to "teach us a lesson", youre failing horribly.

Hemsky>>Savard
Whitney>Thomas
EDM 2nd>BOS 2nd

Hall=Lucic
Smid>>Ference

At least make the proposal similar if you are going to try and teach us a lesson
ok, here's what it looks like to us.

Hall
Fistric

for

Peverley
Boychuk
2nd rounder

sound fair? didn't think so

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01-25-2013, 02:28 AM
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ok, here's what it looks like to us.

Hall
Fistric

for

Peverley
Boychuk
2nd rounder

sound fair? didn't think so
Nope, still not comparable. The OP is still awful though.

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01-25-2013, 02:40 AM
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Nope, still not comparable. The OP is still awful though.
Yah, not to YOU it's not comparable. Take the blue and orange goggs off. What do you really think Hemsky's worth? If you think Lucic, this conversation is over. We all know how unwanted he is to the Oilers and we know how little he is thought of in town. He's trade bait for you, and that's it.

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01-25-2013, 03:32 AM
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My first post take it easy on me

Boston
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whitney
2013 2nd round draft pick

Edmonton
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ference
id personally puke as a bruin fan if we took hemsky and that contact back...

i think something around whitney for ference might make some sense if boston feels they dont intend to resign ference... is a trade that might help at playoff time for boston...

whitney is a very good dman when healthy... too bad he might never be healthy again

but no way i want hemsky even if he is an ufa... theres no cap room for someone that is that 'soft' on the b's

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01-25-2013, 03:36 AM
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Yah, not to YOU it's not comparable. Take the blue and orange goggs off. What do you really think Hemsky's worth? If you think Lucic, this conversation is over. We all know how unwanted he is to the Oilers and we know how little he is thought of in town. He's trade bait for you, and that's it.
Hemsky isn't worth anywhere near what Lucic is, and I don't think many Oiler fans, if any, would think so, so calm down. But he is worth more than Peverly. What you think you know, you don't. He is trade bait, in that if we can improve our team by getting a power forward 2nd liner by moving him, we'd probably do it, but Hemsky isn't being fire-saled, despite what you seem to think. If he was, the Oil would have let him walk at the end of last year instead of extending him. You seem to jump to a lot of conclusions.

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01-25-2013, 04:28 AM
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You offer for Hall isn't even close. Hemsky is at least a legit top 6. I am not saying the deal is fair but please at least make it some what the same as the original post.
It's a terrible offer just like the original. In that way it is exactly the same as the original.

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01-25-2013, 04:31 AM
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Again, if your trying to "teach us a lesson", youre failing horribly.

Hemsky>>Savard
Whitney>Thomas
EDM 2nd>BOS 2nd

Hall=Lucic
Smid>>Ference

At least make the proposal similar if you are going to try and teach us a lesson
It looks to be working perfectly if you think the deal is terrible and horribly unfair.

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01-25-2013, 07:16 AM
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Yah, not to YOU it's not comparable. Take the blue and orange goggs off. What do you really think Hemsky's worth? If you think Lucic, this conversation is over. We all know how unwanted he is to the Oilers and we know how little he is thought of in town. He's trade bait for you, and that's it.
We all know that do we? Do some research before making dumb blanket statements. Hemsky is very well liked by almost all educated oiler fans above the age of 12. He's a good hockey player and would help any team in the league. Not soft either.

There's two reasons he's considered expendable. Jordan eberle and nail yakupov.

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Hemsky isn't worth anywhere near what Lucic is, and I don't think many Oiler fans, if any But he is worth more than Peverly. What you think you know, you don't, would think so, so calm down. . He is trade bait, in that if we can improve our team by getting a power forward 2nd liner by moving him, we'd probably do it, but Hemsky isn't being fire-saled, despite what you seem to think. If he was, the Oil would have let him walk at the end of last year instead of extending him. You seem to jump to a lot of conclusions.
The facts are that Peverley scored at a better ppg pace than Hemsky did last year, Peverley plays on a checking line, he plays on the PK and last year he even got some PP time. Peverley is used in every situation, he moves up or down in the lineup depending on the situation. When Boston won the Cup, the Tampa coach said after the one game that the Bruins had a first liner on the 4th line, he was talking about Peverley. When Horton was injured, Peverley took his spot and delivered and the Bruins won the Cup with Peverley as the first line RW.

Maybe Hemsky of a few years ago was better, but the Hemsky of the past 3 years certainly is not better than Peverley.

No offense meant, I just don't think you quite have a grasp on the player that Peverley is, you probably don't get to watch him very often.

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01-25-2013, 09:36 AM
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Hemsky isn't worth anywhere near what Lucic is, and I don't think many Oiler fans, if any, would think so, so calm down. But he is worth more than Peverly. What you think you know, you don't. He is trade bait, in that if we can improve our team by getting a power forward 2nd liner by moving him, we'd probably do it, but Hemsky isn't being fire-saled, despite what you seem to think. If he was, the Oil would have let him walk at the end of last year instead of extending him. You seem to jump to a lot of conclusions.
I hate the Bruins AND Lucic. He disgusts me. However, he is worth more alone than the entire package that was in the OP. He is a prototypical power forward that any team in the NHL would love to have.

Oiler fans don't sem to understand how pathetic the OP truly is because they grossly overestimate the value of Hemsky. Hemsky is too fragile and has lost too much of his scoring touch to be worth significantly more than a player like Peverley. Peverley has produced more points (yes, in more games) over the last 3 years, but has also shown that his production is increasing while Hemsky's has decreased. Peverley had more points in less games with a much greater defensive presence than Hemsky showed last season. Right now, Hemsky doesn't hold significantly more value than Peverley. Hemsky needs to prove he is still relevant after such an injury riddled last couple of years. I understand that Hemsky still holds a lot of value to Oilers fans, but around the league his injuries combined with last season's pathetic offensive output, has seen his value diminished. Right now, he is NOT worth more than Peverley and is not even worth his contract.

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Again, if your trying to "teach us a lesson", youre failing horribly.

Hemsky>>Savard
Whitney>Thomas
EDM 2nd>BOS 2nd

Hall=Lucic
Smid>>Ference

At least make the proposal similar if you are going to try and teach us a lesson
When, WHEN has Hemsky EVER been better than Savard??

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Hemsky isn't worth anywhere near what Lucic is, and I don't think many Oiler fans, if any, would think so, so calm down. But he is worth more than Peverly. What you think you know, you don't. He is trade bait, in that if we can improve our team by getting a power forward 2nd liner by moving him, we'd probably do it, but Hemsky isn't being fire-saled, despite what you seem to think. If he was, the Oil would have let him walk at the end of last year instead of extending him. You seem to jump to a lot of conclusions.
You couldn't convince me to swap Peverly for Hemsky even if you added the 2013 Edm 1st. Peverly plays in all situations, and has outscored Hemsky. Keep dreaming.

You are one of the few Oiler fans who repeatedly attempt to force the Edmonton's hobbled players (Hemsky, Whitney) or their underachieving Smurf center (Gagner) down every other fans throats for upgrades to your roster. Nobody wants Hemsky, nobody wants Whitney, nobody wants Gagner.. not unless youre ok with mid round draft picks in exchange.

Keep the current plan going, tank & continue to add talent via draft. Sooner or later these kids will mature and start winning (lots), at that point Tambo will find free agents will approve Edmonton as a destination.

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Bad for boston. Prv has to be included.
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The Bruins wouldn't trade Lucic for Nash... So they're not going to consider moving him, at all.

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I hate the Bruins AND Lucic. He disgusts me. However, he is worth more alone than the entire package that was in the OP. He is a prototypical power forward that any team in the NHL would love to have.

Oiler fans don't sem to understand how pathetic the OP truly is because they grossly overestimate the value of Hemsky. Hemsky is too fragile and has lost too much of his scoring touch to be worth significantly more than a player like Peverley. Peverley has produced more points (yes, in more games) over the last 3 years, but has also shown that his production is increasing while Hemsky's has decreased. Peverley had more points in less games with a much greater defensive presence than Hemsky showed last season. Right now, Hemsky doesn't hold significantly more value than Peverley. Hemsky needs to prove he is still relevant after such an injury riddled last couple of years. I understand that Hemsky still holds a lot of value to Oilers fans, but around the league his injuries combined with last season's pathetic offensive output, has seen his value diminished. Right now, he is NOT worth more than Peverley and is not even worth his contract.
He is worth more than Peverly, in that we wouldn't trade him for Peverly if the offer was on the table. For a player we aren't actively shopping, we set the value. If the value isn't met, we keep him. Simple as that. Peverly is closer to Ryan Jones, not Ales Hemsky.

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