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01-24-2013, 11:46 PM
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Crawsome Start:Some Thoughts

Very happy with the team so far. The only real criticism I have is a few shady pinches leading to odd man rushes by the opposition.

Other than this, the Hawks have been amazing.

Corey Crawford is 3-0-0 with a sparkling 1.98GA and a solid 923%. Thanks to a stopped penalty shot and Duncan Keith- he is now 3-0. A motivated and rested Keith is an amazing asset to Craw.


Hjarlmasson has been a rock, loving his play, and is causing slightly more offence. He is so instrumental to the hawks because when Keith and Seabs are off, he needs to be reliable all the time. He simply cannot take a shift off in order for the hawks to have success. Also, Leddy and Kruger are noticeably stronger than last season, Frolik while overpaid is providing a good presence defensively.

Brandon Saad, with 0 points is still making solid plays and getting to the net, I really like his strength and feel he is an asset. I hope the Hawks brass keep playing him the way they are, seems management is making solid decisions for a change. The addition of Rozs and Bolland at 2nd center are paying dividends.

Stalberg has been really solid, very strong on the puck and causes a lot of push back leading to shots on goal and offensive zone cycling. He needs to be more aware when in front of the goalie screening. I like his tenacity, and he is one of the few forwards that is hitting.

Oduya...have not heard his name during the game much......which is what we want from ODUYA!

All in all very good start, and an encouraging win, although there were lapses defensively, in this NHL no team is immune to it at some point.



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01-25-2013, 05:00 AM
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There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Crawford has been a mixed bag at best.

Agree with the rest, especially Hammer. He's been outstanding.

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01-25-2013, 05:15 AM
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There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Crawford has been a mixed bag at best.

Agree with the rest, especially Hammer. He's been outstanding.
I agree with this.

I see people using the words, great, wonderful, amazing to describe Crawford, I would use better. He is playing better then he did last year and has made some solid saves, however he still produces those WHAT THE F! moments, like the first goal last night. Sure you can go on and one about the D or Seabs not being in the right place, fact is the guy your paying millions of dollars to a year to stop the puck, couldn't stop a puck that hit him.

As for the rest yes, Hammer has been unbelieveable, I don't know who that was out there last year but it wasn't his guy. This is the guy I though that kid in 2010 could become and here he is.

You didn't mention Kruger who I think deserves a nod, he has been a much improved player and is out there making an impact on both ends of the ice which is what you want from your #3 C, hope his game continues to grow.

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01-25-2013, 05:32 AM
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not that Krüger wasn't impressiv last year to start the season on the 4th line. After going up the depth chart, the ice time increased and the spotlight was more on him.

Krüger gets better and better. Leddy plays great D so far + 1 assist per game. That's what we need out of him.

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01-25-2013, 08:33 AM
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The thing I don't get about Crawford is that people expect him to be absolutely perfect.

Like 60% of the goals in this league are bad ones. If he gives up one questionable goal per game (like he did last night), the Hawks are going to win a ton of games. Hopefully the bad goals just don't come in OT of the playoffs this year.

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01-25-2013, 08:51 AM
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If you've got a goalie good for a questionable goal per game you need a goalie.

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For those with an irrational hatred for Crawford there isn't anything anyone can say to change their minds, for the rest here are some facts. His .923 save % is higher than Halak, Rinne, Luongo, Backstrom, Lundqvist, Howard, Quick, Fleury, Schneider, Ward, and Smith. His 1.98 goals against average is 11th in the league. He may not be the quality of those other goaltenders but he's definitely holding his own so far this year and is much improved over last year. Let's also not forget his rookie year when his gaa was 2.30 (7th in the league) and his save % was .917 (16th in the league)

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01-25-2013, 09:12 AM
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If Crawford can be a .920+ save percentage goalie this year, the Hawks have a great chance of making the Finals.

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Crawford wasn't amazing, great, or anything like that. he has been good, good enough to make this team a legit cup contender, just like 2010/11.

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With all the terrible starts that the top goal tenders have had its incredible that we are getting this out of Crawford. I hope this is him turning a corner and the soft goals are just some rust, but if he stays at this level I think we keep the goalie situation as is.

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For those with an irrational hatred for Crawford there isn't anything anyone can say to change their minds, for the rest here are some facts. His .923 save % is higher than Halak, Rinne, Luongo, Backstrom, Lundqvist, Howard, Quick, Fleury, Schneider, Ward, and Smith. His 1.98 goals against average is 11th in the league. He may not be the quality of those other goaltenders but he's definitely holding his own so far this year and is much improved over last year. Let's also not forget his rookie year when his gaa was 2.30 (7th in the league) and his save % was .917 (16th in the league)
Holy sample size batman!

The only time Crawford impressed this year is late against the Blues. Was great to see, but goalie stats really mean nothing to me. It's definitely an eye test position.

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Players whose improvement has really impressed me: Leddy, Hjalmarsson, Kruger. In that order.

Crawford's been good enough. I wouldn't describe my feelings towards him as "confidence" so much as "absence of dread."

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Holy sample size batman!

The only time Crawford impressed this year is late against the Blues. Was great to see, but goalie stats really mean nothing to me. It's definitely an eye test position.
Seabrook had a terrible game last night but nobody says "oh we need an upgrade on 1st-pair defense."

The eye test is utter ******** because it is colored by all of our biases and nobody can be objective with this team. That much is obvious. Though this early in the season stats don't mean much of anything either.

Give it time, folks.

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Seabrook had a terrible game last night but nobody says "oh we need an upgrade on 1st-pair defense."

The eye test is utter ******** because it is colored by all of our biases and nobody can be objective with this team. That much is obvious. Though this early in the season stats don't mean much of anything either.

Give it time, folks.
Nobody says replace him because that'd be idiotic. Replacing a guy who had a solid half season 2 years ago is different.

Comparing our all-star defenseman with a middle of the road -at best- starting goalie is a horrible comparison.

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If Crawford can be a .920+ save percentage goalie this year, the Hawks have a great chance of making the Finals.
I don't think it has to even be that high. I figure if he can be around .914 or .915 (he was .903 last year) the Hawks will be in fine shape. But if he ends up over .920 that would be a huge bonus, .920 was good for 10th place last year.

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I don't even hate Crow. But I know I'd feel better with an upgrade or at the very least someone to challenge him for minutes.

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I think he looks pretty decent in net, makes some big saves when he is pressed, but oh man does he make me worry when he goes out to play the puck.

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There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Crawford has been a mixed bag at best.

Agree with the rest, especially Hammer. He's been outstanding.
Don't always agree with you, but this is spot on. Craw looked good in the home opener but very shaky last night.

Hammer is playing studly right now.

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Hawks're looking good, though there are obviously some gaps, like every other team. Hoping offense keeps looking great, defense takes a step forward, and Crawford has a good bounceback year (he was good in the third period after letting in two softies in the first two), so all things together damn, damn good start.

Hard to complain about 4-0-0.

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1/12th of the way there. 48-0?

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1/12th of the way there. 48-0?
All I want is a top 4 seed.... That's not too much to ask for, is it?

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All I want is a top 4 seed.... That's not too much to ask for, is it?
Nope! That's what we all want, and based on the best start in the league, a realistic want. 4 games this year is equal to almost 7 normally.

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Nope! That's what we all want, and based on the best start in the league, a realistic want. 4 games this year is equal to almost 7 normally.
Blues are keeping pace, though, 6 points in their 4 games. They're @ Dallas tomorrow, host the Wild on Sunday, and are somehow off for like the next 4 days after that before they play the Jackets.


Division title would be great, but I'd be fine with home ice in the first round.

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All I want is a top 4 seed.... That's not too much to ask for, is it?
The way they look right now, I'm feeling a lot greedier than that. So many second-tier players have taken big steps forward.

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The way they look right now, I'm feeling a lot greedier than that. So many second-tier players have taken big steps forward.
Absolutely, the way they look now we have a legit shot at the #1 seed.... however, it is still a very tough division, and we've had a lot of bounces go our way. We've also seen in the past how when this team struggles, they REALLY REALLY struggle. That, and you never know how things are going to go with such a short schedule, especially if we get hit by a bad injury or two. It's more important than ever for the studs to stay healthy this year, Hossa especially.

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