*For me Soderberg is perhaps the most confusing hockey player in Sweden, all time. The biggest troll of them all.*
Maybe he is not a very intelligent guy or just a huge homie wanting to live in Sweden, close to his family etc, I'm not sure what's wrong with him.
Boston is such a great city as well.
I would love him to give NHL a shot and I believe Bruins would be a great team.
A successful late career in the NHL would be rare for a European but if one player can do it I think it is Soderberg.
Soderberg is very Sundin like in the way he plays hockey, strong on the skates, floating through traffic, strong body, making it look very simple. At least a Sundin "light edition".
When season is over in Sweden at least he should come and experience some NHL playoff games live. Perhaps he will finally understand what he is missing.
For me it's extremely difficullt to understand why an athlete don't want to compete among the best players in the world especially when being such a great player like Soderberg.
*For me Soderberg is perhaps the most confusing hockey player in Sweden, all time. The biggest troll of them all.*
Maybe he is not a very intelligent guy or just a huge homie wanting to live in Sweden, close to his family etc, I'm not sure what's wrong with him.
Boston is such a great city as well.
I would love him to give NHL a shot and I believe Bruins would be a great team.
A successful late career in the NHL would be rare for a European but if one player can do it I think it is Soderberg.
Soderberg is very Sundin like in the way he plays hockey, strong on the skates, floating through traffic, strong body, making it look very simple. At least a Sundin "light edition".
When season is over in Sweden at least he should come and experience some NHL playoff games live. Perhaps he will finally understand what he is missing.
For me it's extremely difficullt to understand why an athlete don't want to compete among the best players in the world especially when being such a great player like Soderberg.
So just because his biggest wish hasn't been to play in the NHL, he's dumb? Seriously? Also, why the hell would there be anything wrong with him??
I understand why he hasn't left Sweden. Not everything in life is about hockey, not even for those who play professionally. Obviously, you don't realize that.
So just because his biggest wish hasn't been to play in the NHL, he's dumb? Seriously? Also, why the hell would there be anything wrong with him??
I understand why he hasn't left Sweden. Not everything in life is about hockey, not even for those who play professionally. Obviously, you don't realize that.
*For me Soderberg is perhaps the most confusing hockey player in Sweden, all time. The biggest troll of them all.*
Maybe he is not a very intelligent guy or just a huge homie wanting to live in Sweden, close to his family etc, I'm not sure what's wrong with him.
Boston is such a great city as well.
I would love him to give NHL a shot and I believe Bruins would be a great team.
A successful late career in the NHL would be rare for a European but if one player can do it I think it is Soderberg.
Soderberg is very Sundin like in the way he plays hockey, strong on the skates, floating through traffic, strong body, making it look very simple. At least a Sundin "light edition".
When season is over in Sweden at least he should come and experience some NHL playoff games live. Perhaps he will finally understand what he is missing.
For me it's extremely difficullt to understand why an athlete don't want to compete among the best players in the world especially when being such a great player like Soderberg.
To be honest, I don't understand why most people in this world do the things they do.
He sure looks like a player and I'd love to see him give it a shot over here, but...To each his own, I guess.
So just because his biggest wish hasn't been to play in the NHL, he's dumb? Seriously? Also, why the hell would there be anything wrong with him??
I understand why he hasn't left Sweden. Not everything in life is about hockey, not even for those who play professionally. Obviously, you don't realize that.
I don't begrudge his decision to stay in his home country, but the real question isn't whether he's a stupid for doing so. It's why, after so much time and since it's painfully clear that he has no interest in leaving Sweden, why do we Bruins fans keep getting updates on this guy? He isn't coming over. Even if a miracle did happen and he comes to play in the NHL, do the Bruins still own his rights? Nobody has been able to clarify that.
If Soderberg doesn't want to play in North America, then why the hell did he make himself draft-eligible in the first place??
There should be some kind of repercussions for nonsense like this. Carl has wasted the time, money, and resources of 2 NHL teams now, and has failed to honor his contract.
It's not hard to respect the guy's choice to play in his home country ... But it is hard to respect it when he's under contract somewhere else. And nobody forced his hand to put pen to paper there. He should have been a man, honored his contractual obligations, and then faded away into the Swedish sunset ...
Personally, I hope he never again steps foot on North American soil for hockey purposes. Seems like a guy with serious character, morality, and commitment issues for starters.
I don't begrudge his decision to stay in his home country, but the real question isn't whether he's a stupid for doing so. It's why, after so much time and since it's painfully clear that he has no interest in leaving Sweden, why do we Bruins fans keep getting updates on this guy? He isn't coming over. Even if a miracle did happen and he comes to play in the NHL, do the Bruins still own his rights? Nobody has been able to clarify that.
That's the thing, it's not clear, not at all. Everyone in Linköping have pretty much already accepted that he's probably leaving after this season (although we hope he'll stay one more season, of course). Somebody shared a link to an interview with him in this thread, a page or so back, where it said that he's seriously considering the NHL for next season, and he's never been that clear before when talking about it. Also, most of the comments people have posted here on the board have come from his agent or from Malmö and not from Carl himself, which makes that interview even more interesting.
I understand why some of you find it frustrating, but at least you never really lost anything on the deal with St Louis, right?
The only reason I post updates here is because I know that some people like hearing about him and how he's doing.
I'm not sure what's up with his rights either, but I've heard two things: they will either expire at the end of this season, or they'll never expire (has something to do with the IIHF-NHL transfer agreement from 2004). That's all I've been able to find.
ah, yes, the morality of indentured servitude clearly shows this charlatan for what he is
Not seeing how the logic flows on this one, DP. He is neither indentured, nor a servant. His NHL rights were traded from one team to another, but it hasn't limited his ability to play elsewhere, and it certainly hasn't stopped him from earning a paycheck for his hockey skills. Indentured servitude was more like what Curt Flood fought against and won in MLB, and what existed in the NHL as recently as the 80's. Carl not wanting to play in the NHL, but still playing professionally is nowhere near what you suggest.
If Soderberg doesn't want to play in North America, then why the hell did he make himself draft-eligible in the first place??
There should be some kind of repercussions for nonsense like this. Carl has wasted the time, money, and resources of 2 NHL teams now, and has failed to honor his contract.
It's not hard to respect the guy's choice to play in his home country ... But it is hard to respect it when he's under contract somewhere else. And nobody forced his hand to put pen to paper there. He should have been a man, honored his contractual obligations, and then faded away into the Swedish sunset ...
Personally, I hope he never again steps foot on North American soil for hockey purposes. Seems like a guy with serious character, morality, and commitment issues for starters.
But enough about me!!
Actually, he does seem to have shown loyalty to his local teams but... I'm not gonna get too worked up about it.
If Soderberg doesn't want to play in North America, then why the hell did he make himself draft-eligible in the first place??
There should be some kind of repercussions for nonsense like this. Carl has wasted the time, money, and resources of 2 NHL teams now, and has failed to honor his contract.
It's not hard to respect the guy's choice to play in his home country ... But it is hard to respect it when he's under contract somewhere else. And nobody forced his hand to put pen to paper there. He should have been a man, honored his contractual obligations, and then faded away into the Swedish sunset ...
Personally, I hope he never again steps foot on North American soil for hockey purposes. Seems like a guy with serious character, morality, and commitment issues for starters.
His birth date made him draft eligible. Don't think you can opt out of an NHL draft.
Even if he said publicly that he wasn't going to play in the NHL, it was a 9 round draft and someone would have taken a flyer on him in a late round where most players don't make it anyway. It's not like players don't ever change their minds.
His birth date made him draft eligible. Don't think you can opt out of an NHL draft.
Even if he said publicly that he wasn't going to play in the NHL, it was a 9 round draft and someone would have taken a flyer on him in a late round where most players don't make it anyway. It's not like players don't ever change their minds.
Do you know how his whole contract situation would play out if he were to magically decide to come over? The Bruins initially suspended him, putting his ELC on freeze, but didn't they lift that after trying to get him to come over a few times? If that's the case, then wouldn't he be a RFA whom Boston would still hold the right to match any offer he signed?
Do you know how his whole contract situation would play out if he were to magically decide to come over? The Bruins initially suspended him, putting his ELC on freeze, but didn't they lift that after trying to get him to come over a few times? If that's the case, then wouldn't he be a RFA whom Boston would still hold the right to match any offer he signed?
Do you know how his whole contract situation would play out if he were to magically decide to come over? The Bruins initially suspended him, putting his ELC on freeze, but didn't they lift that after trying to get him to come over a few times? If that's the case, then wouldn't he be a RFA whom Boston would still hold the right to match any offer he signed?
Pretty sure Kirk said on twitter a couple of weeks ago that the Bruins own his rights until the end of the year.
I am! I celebrate his entire career every chance I get. I love the negative responses and fights this guy has spawned, and I've never seen him play in a game. Personally, as long as there is a Soderberg thread here at HF with people arguing over him, I know all is right with the world...
Do you know how his whole contract situation would play out if he were to magically decide to come over? The Bruins initially suspended him, putting his ELC on freeze, but didn't they lift that after trying to get him to come over a few times? If that's the case, then wouldn't he be a RFA whom Boston would still hold the right to match any offer he signed?
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Originally Posted by Crossfire
Pretty sure Kirk said on twitter a couple of weeks ago that the Bruins own his rights until the end of the year.
This is correct. Bruins lose his rights on July 1st. He becomes a UFA
I am! I celebrate his entire career every chance I get. I love the negative responses and fights this guy has spawned, and I've never seen him play in a game. Personally, as long as there is a Soderberg thread here at HF with people arguing over him, I know all is right with the world...
Soderberg signed an entry-level deal with the Blues in June of 2006. He's still under contract (since he hasn't reported in 7 years now) and per the terms of the CBA at the time, that contract is set to expire on July 1, 2013.
Had he never signed that contract, this issue would be non-existent and nobody would give a flying ****.
Soderberg signed an entry-level deal with the Blues in June of 2006. He's still under contract (since he hasn't reported in 7 years now) and per the terms of the CBA at the time, that contract is set to expire on July 1, 2013.
Had he never signed that contract, this issue would be non-existent and nobody would give a flying ****.
And that being said... I don't give a flying *******