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01-25-2013, 01:31 PM
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Ovechkin

Don't flame, I'm just trying to find what's his value.

Would Galchenyuk + Beaulieu + 1st pick be enough ?

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01-25-2013, 01:35 PM
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Galchenyuk + Pacioretty + Subban + 1st is what I'd want.

I'm not convinced he's the problem as much as the rest of the team being built like out of ice cubes in the middle of a desert.

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Agreed. Despite the decline, he still worth much more than that.

This is hardly more (if at all) than CBJ gave up for Jeff Carter, a far inferior player.

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Don't flame, I'm just trying to find what's his value.

Would Galchenyuk + Beaulieu + 1st pick be enough ?
not even close

gally Subban and a first may get you in the negotiating room with Washington

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Galchenyuk + Pacioretty + Subban + 1st is what I'd want.

I'm not convinced he's the problem as much as the rest of the team being built like out of ice cubes in the middle of a desert.
haha, yeah Ovechkin has a bunch of awards but he had what, 68 points last year?

Ovechkin might need a change of scenery to find his game again but I would have less than zero interest in sending that package for him. In fact I would probably punch an infant directly in the face if MB did that.

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01-25-2013, 01:44 PM
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i just cant see someone gambling the future of their franchise on him right now because deals like "Galchenyuk + Pacioretty + Subban + 1st" would gut a franchise, and for what? the hope that he pulls it together? at $9.5 million per year?
and have no one to play with?

it would take some set of circumstances for a GM to make that deal...


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haha, yeah Ovechkin has a bunch of awards but he had what, 68 points last year?

Ovechkin might need a change of scenery to find his game again but I would have less than zero interest in sending that package for him. In fact I would probably punch an infant directly in the face if MB did that.
That's going to be the problem with any OV trade.

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01-25-2013, 01:46 PM
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i just cant see someone gambling the future of their franchise on him right now because deals like "Galchenyuk + Pacioretty + Subban + 1st"
would gut the franchise, and for what? the hope that he pulls it toghether?
Nobody would trade that package for Ovy anyway.

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How long is Ovi's contract? He could become Lecavalier mk.II as far as bad deals go.

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A package like that would invoke a lynch mob in MTL.

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Caps fans, whats the deal with Kuznetzov*? Is he ever coming over, and would he be a top-6 guy?

Imagine the package Caps would get for Ovechkin? Yikes!

From Boston:
Krejci
Ference
Thomas
Knight
13' 1st

Lucic Seguin Ovechkin (if he played RW)
Marchand Bergeron Horton

**Kuznetzov gets traded to Edmonton for Yakupov.

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Considering what the Caps would want, with Ovechkin's drop in production and his contract, I'm not even interested in trying to acquire him.

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This is hardly more (if at all) than CBJ gave up for Jeff Carter, a far inferior player.
Are you trying to say that Voracek + 1st (Couturier) + 3rd (Cousins) is pretty much equal to Galchenyuk + Beaulieu + 1st ?

Really ? That's three first round picks...

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since the original question is of value (and i didnt answer it) id give up:

Zibinejad, Bishop and a 1st.
That's pretty much Ottawa's best package without affecting the roster. I certainly wouldnt give up a key core current roster player.
OK fine maybe Anderson instead of Bishop to give the goalie part of it some real value.

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What are the Caps lacking right now anyway? That determines how valuable certain pieces would be to them.

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Caps fans, whats the deal with Kuznetzov*? Is he ever coming over, and would he be a top-6 guy?

Imagine the package Caps would get for Ovechkin? Yikes!

From Boston:
Krejci
Ference
Thomas
Knight
13' 1st

Lucic Seguin Ovechkin (if he played RW)
Marchand Bergeron Horton

**Kuznetzov gets traded to Edmonton for Yakupov.
Why would Edmonton trade Yakupov for Kuznetsov..

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Caps fans, whats the deal with Kuznetzov*? Is he ever coming over, and would he be a top-6 guy?

Imagine the package Caps would get for Ovechkin? Yikes!

From Boston:
Krejci
Ference
Thomas
Knight
13' 1st

Lucic Seguin Ovechkin (if he played RW)
Marchand Bergeron Horton

**Kuznetzov gets traded to Edmonton for Yakupov.
Kuznetsov recently said that he'll come over in 2014. He'll be a top-6 forward for sure... Tarasenko with a bit more finesse.

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01-25-2013, 02:03 PM
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Not interested about what he brings to the organisation as a whole. Where ever he would be, because of his character and his skills he would be the center of attention, and I don't like him as a leader. Don't want him in Montreal, we have enough to deal with with Subban.

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haha, yeah Ovechkin has a bunch of awards but he had what, 68 points last year?

Ovechkin might need a change of scenery to find his game again but I would have less than zero interest in sending that package for him. In fact I would probably punch an infant directly in the face if MB did that.
Who cares. He's still a playoff beast and and would look great in a proper system/with proper linemates. We don't want to trade him except the people who ran Semin out of town and have moved on to the next Russian. Would you trade Price and his .916 from last year for Tom Wilson and a draft pick? That's like the originally proposed trade but not as bad.

If Bergevin knows what he's doing and gets the right system and right supporting players you'd be too busy holding your jaw and cleaning up your pants to punch infants.

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Are you trying to say that Voracek + 1st (Couturier) + 3rd (Cousins) is pretty much equal to Galchenyuk + Beaulieu + 1st ?

Really ? That's three first round picks...
Couturier > Galchenyuk

Voracek > Beaulieu

So... yeah

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since the original question is of value (and i didnt answer it) id give up:

Zibinejad, Bishop and a 1st.
That's pretty much Ottawa's best package without affecting the roster. I certainly wouldnt give up a key core current roster player.
OK fine maybe Anderson instead of Bishop to give the goalie part of it some real value.
And this is why mods should really go back to locking these threads on sight. Nothing good comes from them.

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Caps can't trade him. Their franchise player who's put up legendary numbers and is on one of the toughest contracts to swallow. Between his decline and contract there's no reason a team should risk it unless its cheap.

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Couturier > Galchenyuk

Voracek > Beaulieu

So... yeah
Yeah, let's just forget the first pick we're adding, right ?

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Caps fans, whats the deal with Kuznetzov*? Is he ever coming over, and would he be a top-6 guy?

Imagine the package Caps would get for Ovechkin? Yikes!

From Boston:
Krejci
Ference
Thomas
Knight
13' 1st

Lucic Seguin Ovechkin (if he played RW)
Marchand Bergeron Horton

**Kuznetzov gets traded to Edmonton for Yakupov.
How the hell are you sending a package for Ovechkin without Seguin or Hamilton is beyond me.

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Why would Edmonton trade Yakupov for Kuznetsov..
Maybe Kuznetsov is the BIG center that Oilers lack?

3 great wingers (Eberle Hall Yak), 1 great center (Nuge).. Basic NHL 13' knowledge tells you that one of the 3 wingers should be upgraded for a great center.

Hall-Nuge-( )
( )-Kuznetsov-Eberle

Add in some rugged forwards into ( ), and you have yourself a potent, balanced attack.

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