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01-25-2013, 12:27 PM
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This reads as... I know more about hockey than you, therefore I am right on this subject.

Also I would disagree on how well he does the little things. Bergeron and krejci are not even close when it comes to this. His role on the 1st line is to drive the offense and put up points/goals whether you think its sexy or not
To me it reads as a well thought out and clearly stated post on a discussion board, and not condescending in the least.

And I don't mean this to be condescending either, but the Bruins do not have a #1 or #2 line. Begry's line may go against other team's top line more often, especially at home, but I think Krejci is very under-rated as a defensive player.

Although I do sometimes think he's a bit over-rated as an offensive player on these boards, but I'm as guilty of the occasional homer-ism as anybody.

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01-25-2013, 12:38 PM
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the bruins need Евге́ний Влади́мирович Ма́лкин
i thought we had his rights until July 15th of this year.

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01-25-2013, 12:42 PM
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needs

pure goalscorer and top4 def.

goalscorer on bergy line and marchand to the 3rd line.

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01-25-2013, 12:43 PM
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i thought we had his rights until July 15th of this year.
According to Kirk he is Boston property until July 1.


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01-25-2013, 02:18 PM
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He'll cost a fortune!

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01-25-2013, 02:50 PM
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This reads as... I know more about hockey than you, therefore I am right on this subject.

Also I would disagree on how well he does the little things. Bergeron and krejci are not even close when it comes to this. His role on the 1st line is to drive the offense and put up points/goals whether you think its sexy or not
That was not my intent. It's just a different way of looking at the game and how I interpret the Bruins philosophy in terms of team building.

Yes, Krejci is not in the same category as Bergeron defensively. Few players are. But when he is not contributing offensively, Krejci still does his job and fits the team's system. The primary responsibility of all 12 forwards is defense first, then build the offense from there. Chris Kelly said it today as reported on Twitter "we are a defense first team. Focus on that and offense will come. Keep doing the little things and that will lead to offensive chances."

And this is what Krejci has done as a Bruin, and where they've ranked in terms of overall offense.

07-08. 56gp = 27 points. Bruins goals scored: 206 for 24th in league
08-09 82gp = 73 points (2nd behind Savard). Bruins goals scored: 270 for 2nd in league
09-10 79gp = 52 points (Tied first with #37). Bruins goals scored: 196 for 30th in league
10-11 75gp = 62 points (Tied first #17). Bruins goals scored: 244 for 5th in league
11-12 79gp = 62 points (3rd behind 19 and 37). Bruins goals scored: 260 (tied for 2nd)

Since 07-08 the Bruins have been the 8th best scoring team in the league, at 2.87gpg/1176 total. The 9th best team is Buffalo, with one fewer goal than the Bruins. (Data is from NHL.com) The teams ahead of them: Detroit (3.07/1260), Washington (3.06/1256), Philadelphia (3.06/1253) Chicago (3.05/1249) Pittsburgh (3.04/1248) Vancouver (2.97/1217) and San Jose (2.89/1186). The lowest team is Minnesota at 2.48(1017) goals per game. The average for the league is 2.75 per game with 1126 goals scored.

Taking a look at the number of time the top 9 have had at least a 30 goal scorer and/or 70 point scorer I get these results. Washington (9/10), Philly (11/8), San Jose (9/9), Vancouver (6/11) Detroit (6/9) Pittsburgh (7/7), Chicago (6/8) Boston(2/3) and then Buffalo. (7/5) The first number # of 30 goal scorers, the second number is minimum 70 points seasons. So in the last 5 seasons, Washington has had 9 players score 30 goals, and 10 players finish with 70 points or more. Boston has two 30 goal seasons (Lucic and Kessel) and three 70 point seasons (Savard twice, and Krejci).

What the numbers show me is that despite the lack of a bona fide 30 goal or 70 point guy, the Bruins have been better than 21 other teams in the league (by a significant margin) in terms of goal scoring over the past 5 seasons. And in each of those seasons, save the first, Krejci was at or near the top of the Bruins scoring list. He is a vital piece to the Bruins philosophy of having a balanced attack that relies on three above average lines to get goals from, rather than one really really great line and two average to below average ones.

The team's overall success in that period is a balance between defense and offense, and balance within the forward lines. It's also the easiest model to sustain because the lower point totals keep cap hits reasonable, meaning you can keep the core around longer.

At the end of the day, the only thing I find sexy is winning, and under Claude with Krejci on the team, the Bruins have done a lot of that the past five years. I'm not saying he is the only reason, but he has been a vital part of the team's success.


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01-25-2013, 02:55 PM
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i thought we had his rights until July 15th of this year.
That's Malkin's name in Russian not Soderberg

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01-25-2013, 02:58 PM
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He'll cost a fortune!
I wouldn't pay him more than альчу́к Rubles for a хлачёв - year deal.

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01-25-2013, 03:04 PM
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hindsight: rewind to offseason,

To Columbus:
Krejci
12' 1st
(any D prospect not named Hamilton)
Knight


To Boston:
Nash

Wow is he impressive. Big, strong, shifty, Nash is a robot. Would this deal have topped the Rangers package?

Lucic Seguin Nash
Marchand Bergeron Horton
Remember, Nash wanted out, and insisted on coming to NY....

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01-25-2013, 04:19 PM
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Well we do need an offensive influx. This team still can struggle to put the puck in the net at times and Bourque is not the answer.
Another defenseman would be another asset that would help for a cup run.

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01-25-2013, 04:22 PM
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Remember, Nash wanted out, and insisted on coming to NY....
no he gave a list of teams which was the New York Rangers, Detroit Red Wings, Pittsburgh Penguins, Boston Bruins, Philadelphia Flyers, San Jose Sharks.

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01-25-2013, 04:56 PM
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This team needs TS to bury one tonight before his lack of production becomes a distraction

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01-25-2013, 05:24 PM
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This team's needs have been the same for a while: a goal - scorer and depth on D, realistically thought a third line LW

nash would have been awesome, but we didn't have the package the Rangers had, without destroying what we got going on here

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01-25-2013, 07:00 PM
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This team's needs have been the same for a while: a goal - scorer and depth on D, realistically thought a third line LW

nash would have been awesome, but we didn't have the package the Rangers had, without destroying what we got going on here
I'm sure we could have all gotten together and **** a big enough bagful that Howson would have bit.

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01-25-2013, 07:09 PM
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Jason Arnott, they need Jason Arnott

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1) A working power play

2) not much else

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01-25-2013, 09:38 PM
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3rd Line Left Wing
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this still
Even that would be totally fine if the PP could score at...I dunno, 16-17% (including playoff time).

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01-25-2013, 09:48 PM
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Trade the whole team for tarasenko...let him play 1v5.

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01-26-2013, 01:07 AM
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This reads as... I know more about hockey than you, therefore I am right on this subject.

Also I would disagree on how well he does the little things. Bergeron and krejci are not even close when it comes to this. His role on the 1st line is to drive the offense and put up points/goals whether you think its sexy or not
I guess I'm always curious as to what people truly expect from a first line center. They can't all be Malkin.

For example, using a first line we were all familiar with in recent memory, the Sedins in 2011 were obviously an offensive threat in the playoffs during their Cup run. But if people forget, they were in the negative in plus/minus in the games leading up to the Cup series. It wasn't even until game 4 when Henrik got his first shot on goal. That line wasn't scoring at their expected rate, and they sure had problems stopping the Bruin offense.

Successful First liners aren't all just about scoring.

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A first lien center... or a first line player.

I lve Krejci and Lucic, and think thiey well get by on the first line obviously, but we need a new first line player. Horton just isnt doing it anynmore. He was awful today, blind passes inti nowhere.

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01-26-2013, 04:28 AM
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If this team could somehow pry away Clowe from the sharks for a pick(not a first) a prospect and a low level pro player I would be all for it

put him on the 3rd line and we would have a big imposing body there

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01-26-2013, 06:39 AM
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A first lien center... or a first line player.

I lve Krejci and Lucic, and think thiey well get by on the first line obviously, but we need a new first line player. Horton just isnt doing it anynmore. He was awful today, blind passes inti nowhere.
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I'd even take Keith Aucoin (Bourque's old Hershey Bears teammate) right now for the third line.

I know its going to take time for everyone to get on pace, but as everyone has mentioned the Bruins could REALLY use a versatile scorer that could fill a spot on any line and definitely on the powerplay. The Bruins can afford ANOTHER year with a completely ineffective PP again.

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