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Jake Gardiner to EDM

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01-25-2013, 05:58 PM
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Gardiner for Gagner + 1st
Doesn't make Toronto a better team.

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We don't need Gardiner, our defence isn't stellar but it is serviceable. We will not give you any of the Fab Four for Gardiner. In a year or two, we'll have Klefbom and Marincin who will be ready to step up and contribute. I like Gardiner, he's a quality defenceman but we have J.Schultz. So no thank from the oilers.

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01-25-2013, 06:02 PM
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We don't need Gardiner, our defence isn't stellar but it is serviceable. We will not give you any of the Fab Four for Gardiner. In a year or two, we'll have Klefbom and Marincin who will be ready to step up and contribute. I like Gardiner, he's a quality defenceman but we have J.Schultz. So no thank from the oilers.
Well, be sure to tell other Oiler fans the price next time they come asking so we can avoid this.

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01-25-2013, 06:03 PM
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Not worth what it would take. The Oilers are not going to give up RNH, Hall, Eberle, Schultz or Yakupov for him and we can't afford to give up Gagner in the deal. Paajarvi wouldn't be enough. The Oilers don't need Gardiner with what's in the system. Next year Klefbom will be joining the Oilers. No point in going after him.

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01-25-2013, 06:04 PM
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Could something be done around Whitney + if he agrees to sign extension with TO, what would the plus need to be?

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Regardless, what would Toronto want in return for Gardiner?
More then Edmonton would be willing to give..

I can't see Toronto trading him unless its in a package for a better player.. The Leafs have lots of mid level talent. Gardiner has top pairing potential, why do you move him unless someone is willing to significantly overpay?

It's been said several times, Toronto and Edmonton are horrible trade partners..

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Regardless, what would Toronto want in return for Gardiner?
What would Toronto WANT? One of Eberle or RNH. Dynamic winger or potential #1C.

Realistically, EDM wouldn't want to give that up for Gardiner.

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01-25-2013, 06:06 PM
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Could something be done around Whitney + if he agrees to sign extension with TO, what would the plus need to be?
Of course it can't be done.

What kind of offer is that? It shouldn't take much to know what Leafs fans are going to think of this.

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01-25-2013, 06:07 PM
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Well, be sure to tell other Oiler fans the price next time they come asking so we can avoid this.
Toronto and Edmonton aren't good trading partners. I don't see why other teams think that just because we have 3 excellent young wingers, that we have to trade one of them. Chicago has 3 great wingers and no one cares. I'm sick and tired of most franchises trying to cherry pick our talent because they feel like they are helping us out. We do not need you to take our talented wingers away. We'll continue to build without dealing any of the Fab Four.

Sorry just needed to vent a bit reading these boards just angers me sometimes.

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01-25-2013, 06:19 PM
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I would say we have the fab 5 now. Ebs, RNH, Hall, Yak, and Schultz will be the core we build around. Gardiner would be an awesome addition but not at the price it would cost. If TO was in full rebuild we could offer the pieces nesc in draft picks and prospects but they are trying to win like us.

We would not trade Schultz for Kadri and a 1st at this stage. either.

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01-25-2013, 06:24 PM
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I would say we have the fab 5 now. Ebs, RNH, Hall, Yak, and Schultz will be the core we build around. Gardiner would be an awesome addition but not at the price it would cost. If TO was in full rebuild we could offer the pieces nesc in draft picks and prospects but they are trying to win like us.

We would not trade Schultz for Kadri and a 1st at this stage. either.
Not that Toronto would go for this.

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01-25-2013, 06:44 PM
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Not that Toronto would go for this.
I wouldn't even do Kadri alone.

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I wouldn't even do Kadri alone.


We're 3-4 games in and Kadri has been great but don't get ahead of yourself.

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We're 3-4 games in and Kadri has been great but don't get ahead of yourself.
Same could be said about Schultz, no?

Why in heavens name do the Leafs need another OFD? Especially at the cost of our best F prospect

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01-25-2013, 06:49 PM
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Same could be said about Schultz, no?

Why in heavens name do the Leafs need another OFD? Especially at the cost of our best F prospect
Because the potential and likely hood he reaches the potential are far and away higher than Kadri. Even if Schultz isn't a need I find it hard to believe if Tambellini called Nonis up and said Schultz for Kadri that Nonis would decline.

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01-25-2013, 06:51 PM
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Because the potential and likely hood he reaches the potential are far and away higher than Kadri. Even if Schultz isn't a need I find it hard to believe if Tambellini called Nonis up and said Schultz for Kadri that Nonis would decline.
Based on what?

How are you going to prove that?

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Not that Toronto would go for this.
No, Toronto wouldn't go for anything that doesn't involve Gretzky and a few 1sts coming back the other way. Oh wait, I mean Toronto fans on this board. Toronto would trade Rask for Raycroft, Kubina for Exelby, Seguin and Hamilton for Kessel (ok, I'm pushing it) --- but still they wouldn't consider Gagner, MPS, Whitney, Klefbom etc. to be of any value compared to the latest shiny bauble.

There are always 4 or 5 untouchables in Toronto every year and usually 2 or 3 wind up demoted or traded by the same time next year. Sometimes its okay to take a 'risk' and trade for proven young players. Lets have a little levity here. Before you bring up the glass houses thing, there are overzealous fans in every city - but the big 3 or 4 aren't dropping off EDM's list any time soon.

I wouldn't trade for Gardiner unless it was an underpay. Nothing personal.

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its in the new CBA
Plus Bettman visit to Edmonton signing an agreement for the Oilers to stay for the next 35 years . He has to give us some first all over all picks Like he did with the Pens and Crosby .

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Could something be done around Whitney + if he agrees to sign extension with TO, what would the plus need to be?
Whitney is not the basis of a Gardiner deal in Toronto

We would only move him in a package for a better player

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I wouldn't even do Kadri alone.
lol?

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lol?
Why is that so ridiculous? We need a #1C, so far Kadri has shown he can be that not too far down the road. We have an abundance of OFD why would we deal our only good forward prospect for redundancy?

Gardiner isnt moving unless its him + for Eberle or RNH (i like Eberle the best of the 3 W and Hall is likely worth more than the rest).

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lol?
Explain why the leafs should trade Kadri for Schultz.

Please do.

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I wouldn't even do Kadri alone.
Kadri has a good three games and his value shoots through the roof.

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We need a #1C, so far Kadri has shown he can be that not too far down the road.
He reeaaallly hasn't. Don't get ahead of yourself. Kadri has looked good this season but its a very small sample size. Most of the evidence to this point is his career has shown he is most likely a decent 2C.

Granted, probably much better than bozak for the 1c spot.

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Kadri has a good three games and his value shoots through the roof.
Schultz has a good 3 games offensively and he's Jesus Christ.

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