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01-26-2013, 01:49 AM
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The captain of the Russians helped his team complete an amazing comeback in the 3rd period against Canada to win WJC gold with broken ribs...Not clutch at all.

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01-26-2013, 01:50 AM
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Based on what? Not trying to be aggressive here or anything, but he's got like...one GTG in his career so far. Small sample size isn't enough to establish that kind of precedent.
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01-26-2013, 02:19 AM
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Both will be great IMO.

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01-26-2013, 02:38 AM
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Tarasenko by far. I feel like yakupov will be a good secondary scorer but never a top line calber scorer. I feel like tarasenko can be that future 35-40 goal scorer playing in a system that focuses alot more on defense than yakupovs

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01-26-2013, 02:48 AM
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For a secondary scorer he could have scored 4 goals within the 12 minutes of ice time against the Stanley Cup champs.

And this was only his 3rd NHL game

I think we can support both players instead of having to downplay the other

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01-26-2013, 02:55 AM
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For a secondary scorer he could have scored 4 goals within the 12 minutes of ice time against the Stanley Cup champs.

And this was only his 3rd NHL game

I think we can support both players instead of having to downplay the other
Hear hear, there is too much of that on HF.

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01-26-2013, 03:33 AM
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I think Yakupov will be the more dynamic scorer and bigger offensive threat, but Tanko will be more all around.

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01-26-2013, 08:14 AM
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I think Yakupov will be the more dynamic scorer and bigger offensive threat, but Tanko will be more all around.
Yep, pretty much this.

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01-26-2013, 08:50 AM
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Gotta go with the future hall of famer Nail Yakupov.

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01-26-2013, 12:40 PM
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From what I've seen of him leading up to that L.A. game I just don't think he's gonna be a big time scorer. He's gonna be a speedster with skill who's a good second line winger. He coulda scored 4 goals in only his 3rd game but he didn't. He put one in. Tarasenko has 4 goals and two assists in his first 4 NHL games. I'm not trying to bash u or anything I've just always thought since they drafted him that he's never gonna be a top line superstar.

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01-26-2013, 12:41 PM
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Yak played like a superstar the other night. Was robbed by Quick a few times.

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01-26-2013, 12:47 PM
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Based on?

Give them at least a month, Jesus.

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01-26-2013, 01:37 PM
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Tarasenko by far. I feel like yakupov will be a good secondary scorer but never a top line calber scorer. I feel like tarasenko can be that future 35-40 goal scorer playing in a system that focuses alot more on defense than yakupovs
You are a perfect example of why St. Louis and Edmonton fans shouldn't be allowed to postin threads like these, that pit 1 prospect against the other.

Just so god damn biased.

To answer the question: I think that they will both be great. Yakupov more of a pure goal scorer with Tarasenko being the more well-rounded player.

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01-26-2013, 01:44 PM
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Both going to be first line wingers in the NHL for a long time, both have 40 goal upside (Yakupov maybe 45-50 top off). Yakupov is a little bit more skilled (well maybe not right now, but definitely was mroe skilled that Tarasenko was at 18) but Tarasenko has a better 2-way game. Both can be physical, Tarasenko uses his linemates a little better, Yakupov has more of a sniper mentality.

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01-26-2013, 03:41 PM
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Tarasenko by far. I feel like yakupov will be a good secondary scorer but never a top line calber scorer. I feel like tarasenko can be that future 35-40 goal scorer playing in a system that focuses alot more on defense than yakupovs
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From what I've seen of him leading up to that L.A. game I just don't think he's gonna be a big time scorer. He's gonna be a speedster with skill who's a good second line winger. He coulda scored 4 goals in only his 3rd game but he didn't. He put one in. Tarasenko has 4 goals and two assists in his first 4 NHL games. I'm not trying to bash u or anything I've just always thought since they drafted him that he's never gonna be a top line superstar.
Yakupov is a teenage rookie playing in the best league in the world, I honestly think you have no idea what you're talking about, and you likely never watched him play in Sarnia. He's phenomenally skilled, he absolutely has 1st line talent. You will be proven very, very wrong, pretty quickly too. In my mind there's literally no question about him being a 1st line quality winger, the real question is whether he a solid 1st liner, or a true star. By the time Yakupov hits 22, I'd bet anything on him being considered a 1st line quality winger (barring career altering injuries).

With that being said, I'm sure he'll flip flop between the 1st and 2nd line throughout his career if Edmonton keep all of Yakupov, Hall and Eberle. All three are 1st line quality talents, but on any given night one will have to play on the 2nd line. That doesn't make any of them 2nd line talents though, unless you consider Malkin a 2nd line talent just because he plays on the same team as Crosby. Yakupov in his prime will be good enough to be a 1st liner on the vast majority of teams in the league, I feel very confident in that statement.



As for the initial question, extremely tough to say. I personally think they're both going to be stars, I see them both being among the top 10 wingers in the league in a few years.

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01-26-2013, 03:46 PM
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From what I've seen of him leading up to that L.A. game I just don't think he's gonna be a big time scorer. He's gonna be a speedster with skill who's a good second line winger. He coulda scored 4 goals in only his 3rd game but he didn't. He put one in. Tarasenko has 4 goals and two assists in his first 4 NHL games. I'm not trying to bash u or anything I've just always thought since they drafted him that he's never gonna be a top line superstar.
Tarasenko is two years older than Yakupov.

But I guess that doesnt count for anything.

Why cant they both be good going forward?

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01-26-2013, 03:59 PM
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As an oiler fan I will have to say it's Tarasenko and it's not going to be even close. Tarasenko is more mature and NHL ready and every bit as talented. If there wasn't the Russian's scare in his draft year he would have been a top 5 pick.

That being said Yakupov will be a great player when he gets to the same age and this comparison might be a lot closer in a few years.

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04-29-2013, 02:03 PM
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04-29-2013, 02:19 PM
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Both are different players, really. Yak will score more but Tarasenko is better defensively and has a better two-way game.

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04-29-2013, 02:32 PM
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Tarasenko by far. I feel like yakupov will be a good secondary scorer but never a top line calber scorer. I feel like tarasenko can be that future 35-40 goal scorer playing in a system that focuses alot more on defense than yakupovs
Yak's a good secondary scorer. Thats why he leads the Oilers this year in scoring goals and is tied for the rookie lead in points... boy were you wrong!
Whatever happened to Tarasenko anyways?

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04-29-2013, 02:45 PM
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Yak's a good secondary scorer. Thats why he leads the Oilers this year in scoring goals and is tied for the rookie lead in points... boy were you wrong!
Whatever happened to Tarasenko anyways?
blindside hit, concussion.


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04-29-2013, 02:47 PM
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blindside hit, concussion.

almost as injury prone as Taylor Hall

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04-29-2013, 03:10 PM
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almost as injury prone as Taylor Hall
Or Skinner.

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04-29-2013, 05:01 PM
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Yakupov is far better than Taresenko

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04-29-2013, 05:13 PM
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Yakupov is far better than Taresenko
This is Oiler "kids" hyperbolic hype at its best!

Tarasenko is asked to play defensively responsible on the third line in a very defense first system for Hitchcock.

Tank gets little PP time due to the forward depth on the STL Blues

He was leading (or close to it) all rookies in goals and poinst then he got cheapshotted, got a concussion and has played very timid since he's gotten back.

Add them up and his scoring has taken a hit.

While Yak gets top PP time, gets to play top 6 minutes on a terrible team that won't be sniffing the playoffs as contenders for 3-4 more years, not just making the playoffs, but winning at least a round.

In a vacuum, on a per point basis, Yak had the better season, but switch the players teams and I guarantee you Tank would out score Yak.

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