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01-26-2013, 11:08 AM
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Racism plays a part in certain aspects of PK's hockey life, but this isn't one of them. This is just conspiracy theory.

I guess Iginla had a hard time getting a lucrative contract in the NHL because he's black... or it might again be Quebecers that are the most racist nation on earth ? Really, again let's get real here.
How do we know it wasn't MB throwing banana's at Simmonds?

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I really hope it's our General Manager that's running the show, and not the owner.
Same.

Although seeing what Bergevin is doing right now.. I don't know.

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I must admit that it's really what it feels like to me also. Not Bergevin being racist but Subban's "attitude" problems. Everything he does is magnified like crazy. We hear he is annoying to be around but never any specifics on anything wrong that he does. In the mean time he is polite in the medias, and always says the right things and never really given me reason to believe he is a headcase. Maybe his demeanor changes a lot once in the privacy of the locker room away from cameras but I somehow find that to be unlikely.

He's a black young man who is exuberant and has gotten a lot of love from fans and sponsors. And it has to rub some players the wrong way. Him being black certainly helps magnifies some of the negative reactions I'm sure.
I hope once he does sign a contract he gets young money cash money billionaires cut into his hair

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If 2.2 and 2.9 are true that's horrible Tom freakin Poti is making more money than that. How do you explain this to Subban?

Your young you need to improve in order to cash in in the next 2 years.

What kind of retarded fact is it.

Plus le gros bon sens would be sign PK now while he is worth 4-5 millions long term don't wait until he is worth 7 millions? I just don't get it maybe i'm too smart to think like an hockey player.

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Offersheet in the 5M range would be a 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
If I am the Flyers, I will do that in a heartbeat. If PK does not sign any offer sheet ATM, there are only two possibilities:

1) Collusion. Teams are not giving out offer sheets.
2) PK has received offer sheets but he does not want to sign them because he wants to play for the Habs.

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01-26-2013, 11:11 AM
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Offersheet in the 5M range would be a 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
And with all due respects to PK Subban. As much as I want him, if a team gives him an offer sheet of 5 million (which I 100% DOUBT).. then I say BYE BYE.

1st 2nd and 3rd for PK Subban at 5 million dollars? Any day.

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01-26-2013, 11:11 AM
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Stop, or you will get a heart attack. The specific numbers from Dregger and Renauld Lavoie is not good enough for you. The next thing is a trade request from PK and this will be actual fact.
Since when are rumors from journalists facts ????

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I will retract everything I've said if Bergevin signs Subban to a long term deal.
So now, it's a long term deal that you want... not just PK signed ?

I wish for PK to sign to the best deal possible for our cap situation, period. Let it be 1-2, 8 years, I don't care.

If he asks for Dougthy money/deal... I'll be happy to escort him myself to his future destination. But I'm not turning on PK, because I DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS DEMANDS ARE and I'm not turning on MB BECAUSE i DON'T KNOW WHAT HE OFFERS.

Is it clear enough ???

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I'm not convinced we have enough accurate information to really portray MB as being anything but cautious.

Even if Bergevin is unsure of PKs value, which I highly doubt, he has guys like Dudley and Timmens to set him straight.

Even though lots of media have glammed onto the $5M 2 year offer, I'm not convinced that it was ever that, or that of it was, it hasn't been upped substantially.

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When in doubt, play the racist card. You win the argument.
That sounds like something a communist would say. Tell us more you pinko.

Hey, it really does work.

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Let me says, whoever leaked these numbers out did a great job to turn public opinion into PKs camp

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Looks like we are just about to explode

If you have a twitter account, simply tweet:

@GMolsonCHC #signsubban

Takes 2 seconds. Nobody is asking you to picket in front of the bell centre, just do it, NO EXCUSES!

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Even if Bergevin is unsure of PKs value, which I highly doubt, he has guys like Dudley and Timmens to set him straight.
Timmins couldn't set Gauthier and Gainey straight about Ryan McDonaugh so I wouldn't try expecting him to have any pull here.

We're getting closer and closer to recognizing that this is not a franchise that wants to be a winner. It simply wants to be right.

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And with all due respects to PK Subban. As much as I want him, if a team gives him an offer sheet of 5 million (which I 100% DOUBT).. then I say BYE BYE.

1st 2nd and 3rd for PK Subban at 5 million dollars? Any day.
If other teams would be sure Habs wouldn't match, the offer sheets for that amount would be pilling on his agent's desk right now.

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And with all due respects to PK Subban. As much as I want him, if a team gives him an offer sheet of 5 million (which I 100% DOUBT).. then I say BYE BYE.

1st 2nd and 3rd for PK Subban at 5 million dollars? Any day.
Are you crazy?

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Racism plays a part in certain aspects of PK's hockey life, but this isn't one of them. This is just one conspiracy theory.

I guess Iginla had a hard time getting a lucrative contract in the NHL because he's black... or it might again be Quebecers that are the most racist nation on earth ? Really, again let's get real here.
That is the only logical reason why the Habs are trying to lowball Subban. But hey that is my opinion, maybe im right or wrong but there is no denying that racism is rampant in hockey. Just look at the amount of hate and propaganda towards russian players.

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And with all due respects to PK Subban. As much as I want him, if a team gives him an offer sheet of 5 million (which I 100% DOUBT).. then I say BYE BYE.

1st 2nd and 3rd for PK Subban at 5 million dollars? Any day.
I wouldn't even come close to considering that.

A mid to late round 1st (since it'll probably be a decent team offer sheeting him) , which is a toss up if they'll pan out.

a 2nd and 3rd rounder that have very little chances of making the league statistically speaking (less than 10% IIRC).

We have a really good player now, and would be hard to replace even with those picks. I don't want to trade him for the mystery box.

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And with all due respects to PK Subban. As much as I want him, if a team gives him an offer sheet of 5 million (which I 100% DOUBT).. then I say BYE BYE.

1st 2nd and 3rd for PK Subban at 5 million dollars? Any day.
Coming from a playoff team, I wouldn't take a late 1st, late 2nd and late 3rd for Subban. Not a chance in hell. Unless if that pick is top 5.

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And with all due respects to PK Subban. As much as I want him, if a team gives him an offer sheet of 5 million (which I 100% DOUBT).. then I say BYE BYE.

1st 2nd and 3rd for PK Subban at 5 million dollars? Any day.
Thanks god, you are not our GM.

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Thanks god, you are not our GM.
At this point you can't be sure.

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That sounds like something a communist would say. Tell us more you pinko.

Hey, it really does work.
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01-26-2013, 11:16 AM
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If the offer really was 2 years, 2.2 for the first and 2.9 for the 2nd year.... well that's just retarded.. Everybody is on the MB camp because he's the new flavor but if he indeed offred that to Subban, he's gonna be as bad as the other GM we had in the past few years. BTW he didn't do much thus far for the team.

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Crazy times......

I like P.K at the end of the day, but his comments to Mr.Stubbs don't sit well with me. A lot of me, me, me and I, I, I in his demands. When the truth is, Yes he's done well but both his full seasons were split in half of great play and poor play, seems he is only focusing on his great play in negotiations. That's not fair to Bergy.
Dude. He was interviewed to talk about himself. And last I check, his contract negotiation is about... HIM. Who else could he talk about?

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I now am remembering all his fights in practice with teammates on more then 1 occasion. The team does seem happy at the moment.
Gee, I wonder why. Maybe being in the 15th place, relatively demoralized. He got into fight because he was playing too hard in practice. Which means how emotional he can get when his team loses.

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Dude. He was interviewed to talk about himself. And last I check, his contract negotiation is about... HIM. Who else could he talk about?



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Frankly I am upset he didn't use the royal "we". It would have rustled quite the large amount of jimmies.

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Don't get me wrong. I love the guy, but PK Subban at 5 million makes ZERO sense. You are going to be handcuffed any time you want to sign a free agent in the future. They will use this whole scenario has a comparison, and you'll be screwed trying to sign free agents at a good price even more than we were before this deal...

I'm stressed out as a fan, I can't imagine how MB is at this point.

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I wouldn't even come close to considering that.

A mid to late round 1st (since it'll probably be a decent team offer sheeting him) , which is a toss up if they'll pan out.

a 2nd and 3rd rounder that have very little chances of making the league statistically speaking (less than 10% IIRC).

We have a really good player now, and would be hard to replace even with those picks. I don't want to trade him for the mystery box.
But what if a team with a terrible start make such an offer?

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