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01-26-2013, 11:38 AM
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Philly in need of blue line help

We all know Philly has blue line problems. Here are two proposals:

McBain+LaRose+5th for Simmonds

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Corvo+Sanguinetti+4th for Read

And yes, we have all read about how McBain for Read straight up might work, so let's skip that one.

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01-26-2013, 11:40 AM
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You're stuck with Corvo.

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01-26-2013, 11:42 AM
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Flyers say no to both of those deals

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01-26-2013, 11:58 AM
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We all know Philly has blue line problems. Here are two proposals:

McBain+LaRose+5th for Simmonds

or

Corvo+Sanguinetti+4th for Read

And yes, we have all read about how McBain for Read straight up might work, so let's skip that one.
We actually don't need blue line help unless you're offering a top pairing defenseman (which you're not).

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01-26-2013, 12:05 PM
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We all know Philly has blue line problems. Here are two proposals:

McBain+LaRose+5th for Simmonds

or

Corvo+Sanguinetti+4th for Read

And yes, we have all read about how McBain for Read straight up might work, so let's skip that one.
Just from my perspective - but the Flyers situation right now is so bad with injuries that they'd be better off playing it out than making a short term band-aid type of deal like you're proposing. I like McBain, but not at the cost of Simmonds, and it's not like McBain is going to solidfy the Flyers blueline.

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01-26-2013, 12:14 PM
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We actually don't need blue line help unless you're offering a top pairing defenseman (which you're not).
This.

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Trading for Joe Corvo seems counter-intuitive if a team wants to tighten up defensively

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Would Philly be interested in bringing back Sbisa? I don't think Anaheim is shopping him at all. However i think bb and Murray think one of Lindholm or Vatanen could make the jump if needed. I only see Sbisa being moved for a 2nd line center. Something work around B. Schenn or Courtier?

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If we are trading Schenn or Couturier, it's for Fowler.

However, I don't see Schenn being traded away anyways unless it's for a package with both of the Schenn brothers

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01-26-2013, 12:29 PM
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Would Philly be interested in bringing back Sbisa? I don't think Anaheim is shopping him at all. However i think bb and Murray think one of Lindholm or Vatanen could make the jump if needed. I only see Sbisa being moved for a 2nd line center. Something work around B. Schenn or Courtier?
Highly doubt it. You are going to get the typical. Matt Read offer. If you're lucky they might make it a Simmonds or Voracek offer. Philly fan can't part ways with Schenn or Couts in any deal. lol

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Highly doubt it. You are going to get the typical. Matt Read offer. If you're lucky they might make it a Simmonds or Voracek offer. Philly fan can't part ways with Schenn or Couts in any deal. lol
It's not that we won't part with Schenn or Couturier. It's most people on here think they could get Schenn or Couturier for a mid pairing D man.

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It's not that we won't part with Schenn or Couturier. It's most people on here think they could get Schenn or Couturier for a mid pairing D man.
Sbisa is not just a mid pairing Dman though. He's a 22 year old top 4 defenseman who has potential to be top two. Not trying to convince you to agree to trade one of the two, but I'm just saying he's not just a mid pairing defenseman.

Fowler is way more valuable than both and has looked very dangerous past two games. He's as untouchable as it gets with Anaheim.

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It's not that we won't part with Schenn or Couturier. It's most people on here think they could get Schenn or Couturier for a mid pairing D man.
And equally as ridiculous are Flyer fans thinking they can get a young top-pairing dman without dealing away Schenn or Couturier ++ in a package.

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Sbisa is not just a mid pairing Dman though. He's a 22 year old top 4 defenseman who has potential to be top two. Not trying to convince you to agree to trade one of the two, but I'm just saying he's not just a mid pairing defenseman.

Fowler is way more valuable than both and has looked very dangerous past two games. He's as untouchable as it gets with Anaheim.
Isn't a second pairing defenseman a mid pairing Dman?

And I'll agree that Fowler is more valuable, but I think you're underestimating how much the Flyers value Couturier/Schenn. Couturier is about as untouchable to Philly as Fowler is to Anaheim.

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And equally as ridiculous are Flyer fans thinking they can get a young top-pairing dman without dealing away Schenn or Couturier ++ in a package.
I'd deal Couturier+ for a young top-pairing Dman, but at this point, none of them are available.

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They will sign Brent Sopel anyway.

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I'd deal Couturier+ for a young top-pairing Dman, but at this point, none of them are available.
I think you are one of the few Flyer fans who would consider trading "golden boy".

To me its a no-brainer. Looking at the upcoming UFA market and the available talent for top-end d-men it is clear that they are a premium. Finding a young top-pairing dman that is available is near impossible. (and let's leave Subban out of this conversation! lol)

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And equally as ridiculous are Flyer fans thinking they can get a young top-pairing dman without dealing away Schenn or Couturier ++ in a package.
who said that?

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who said that?
I think i've just read too many posts from the Flyers board. I'll take back that statement as it pertains to this thread.

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I think i've just read too many posts from the Flyers board. I'll take back that statement as it pertains to this thread.
I think most Flyers fans would trade Couturier for a #1 top pairing defenseman. But really who's available? Most of the defenseman you see available are more of the same of what they already have. At that point it doesn't make sense. If you want to make Pietrangelo type of defenseman available I'm all for moving Couturier. But most teams want to give you a Nick Leddy type defenseman.

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We all know Philly has blue line problems. Here are two proposals:

McBain+LaRose+5th for Simmonds

or

Corvo+Sanguinetti+4th for Read

And yes, we have all read about how McBain for Read straight up might work, so let's skip that one.
Doesn't Carolina also need help on the blue line, or are these addition by subtraction ploys?

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They will sign Brent Sopel anyway.
whats your fascination with us getting Sopel? Seriously?? Ive seen it here and the Sopel rumor boards WTH?

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I think we will be fine without any outside signings. Here is what we have right now as of tonight vs. the Panthers:

Schenn - Timonen
Coburn - Gervais
Grossman - Foster/Lilja

And Eric Gustaffson is back playing with the Phantoms and the Flyers are very high and he is a mobile, albeit small defenseman that can hold his own. So I don't see any signings or trades.

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I think we will be fine without any outside signings. Here is what we have right now as of tonight vs. the Panthers:

Schenn - Timonen
Coburn - Gervais
Grossman - Foster/Lilja

And Eric Gustaffson is back playing with the Phantoms and the Flyers are very high and he is a mobile, albeit small defenseman that can hold his own. So I don't see any signings or trades.
Dude, that is awful. Flyers sre very high if they stick it out with that group!

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