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01-26-2013, 12:36 PM
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Offer sheet Subban 5 mil x 3 years. Habs only want to give him 2.5 mil (are they ****ing retarded?)

We give up a 1st + 3rd.

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01-26-2013, 12:38 PM
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i would love to have subban on this team

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Offer sheet Subban 5 mil x 3 years. Habs only want to give him 2.5 mil (are they ****ing retarded?)

We give up a 1st + 3rd.
Might as well up the years and have him signed for 5 mil for 4+ years

1st and a 3rd for 4-5 years of Subban? Where do I sign?

I like this years draft, but Subban would be a top 5 pick himself. We wouldn't get the cap savings of an EL player, but Subban would make our team much better right now.

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01-26-2013, 12:54 PM
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Might as well up the years and have him signed for 5 mil for 4+ years

1st and a 3rd for 4-5 years of Subban? Where do I sign?

I like this years draft, but Subban would be a top 5 pick himself. We wouldn't get the cap savings of an EL player, but Subban would make our team much better right now.
I'd be down either way.

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01-26-2013, 12:55 PM
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habs fans asking giroux back in a deal for subban LOL

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Might as well up the years and have him signed for 5 mil for 4+ years

1st and a 3rd for 4-5 years of Subban? Where do I sign?

I like this years draft, but Subban would be a top 5 pick himself. We wouldn't get the cap savings of an EL player, but Subban would make our team much better right now.
I'm not such a huge fan of the Habs having two potentially top picks in such a strong draft....

Besides, with Phaneuf + Rielly + Gardiner, we're pretty set on the back end for the future. If we got Subban, I guess we could always try to flip one of them in a package for a center/goalie, but why not just hold onto what we've got and see if we can add a Barkov or Lindholm to our core?

This could be such a huge draft for us. If we're gonna go after Subban at all I'd rather just make a trade offer. These types of situations rarely result in a team receiving full value for a player.


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01-26-2013, 01:04 PM
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I cant believe Montreal is offering him that little. He has every right to hold back if thats all the are offering. I would love PK subban on this team. Trade Gunner or Franson to LA for Bernier. Then sign subban to a offersheet. Clearly the Habs wont match.

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I'm not such a huge fan of the Habs having two potentially top picks in such a strong draft....

Besides, with Phaneuf + Rielly + Gardiner, we're pretty set on the back end for the future. If we got Subban, I guess we could always try to flip one of them in a package for a center/goalie, but why not just hold onto what we've got and see if we can add a Barkov or Lindholm to our core?
yeah it would really change our course, and this is probably the least likely thing to happen... i just love PK's game

but for the bolded part, yeah they may have 2 strong draft picks but they'll also be less a good dman with top 10 potential.

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habs fans asking giroux back in a deal for subban LOL
...what?

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habs fans asking giroux back in a deal for subban LOL
what a joke...

Thing is Couts + 1st is something i thing both teams would do... Considering Phillys history trading picks and their need for D. Couts is a perfect player for the Habs and a good pick in a strong draft class.

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01-26-2013, 01:18 PM
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Can you imagine:

Phaneuf - Subban
Gardiner - Rielly



1000 GA
2000 GF
500 broken heads from the top pairing

Or at that point you deal one of them for a C, maybe Phaneuf for Stastny + something?

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Offer sheet Subban 5 mil x 3 years. Habs only want to give him 2.5 mil (are they ****ing retarded?)

We give up a 1st + 3rd.
We would screw them if they didn't sign it and set us up nicely for the next while.

Rielly-Phaneuf
Gard-Subban

We'd just need a goalie (even if its Luongo) and we could have the most potent defense in hockey.

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01-26-2013, 01:31 PM
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read the last 4 or 3 pages of the subban thread on the mains board

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01-26-2013, 01:32 PM
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Can you imagine:

Phaneuf - Subban
Gardiner - Rielly



1000 GA
2000 GF
500 broken heads from the top pairing

Or at that point you deal one of them for a C, maybe Phaneuf for Stastny + something?
We could have potentially 4 #1 Dmen. Lol

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01-26-2013, 01:45 PM
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With all this talk about a #1 center and a #1 goalie am I the only one who thinks we need to upgrade on MacArthur and Gunnarson's talent for the role on the team they play just as much if not more to improve?

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Offer sheet Subban 5 mil x 3 years. Habs only want to give him 2.5 mil (are they ****ing retarded?)

We give up a 1st + 3rd.
Montreal would match. Theyre not gonna lose Subban for a 1st and a 3rd. They could get more by matching and then trading if they really wanted to move him.

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01-26-2013, 01:50 PM
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Montreal would match. Theyre not gonna lose Subban for a 1st and a 3rd. They could get more by matching and then trading if they really wanted to move him.
Thing is, they can't move him for a year after they match. I would do a 1 year offersheet, since they would obviously match.

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01-26-2013, 02:02 PM
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Montreal would match. Theyre not gonna lose Subban for a 1st and a 3rd. They could get more by matching and then trading if they really wanted to move him.
They're offering him 2.5. He wants 4.5 and they aren't budging.

MB obviously doesn't value him that highly. Or he's doing some really stupid negotiating tactic.

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01-26-2013, 02:07 PM
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Montreal would match. Theyre not gonna lose Subban for a 1st and a 3rd. They could get more by matching and then trading if they really wanted to move him.
If I'm MON I wouldn't match. They'd likely have 2 top 10 picks. If we still don't have a real 1G this year, we won't be doing to much, even if we signed Weber.

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01-26-2013, 02:09 PM
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They're offering him 2.5. He wants 4.5 and they aren't budging.

MB obviously doesn't value him that highly. Or he's doing some really stupid negotiating tactic.
I would offer Subban $5,046,584, max of the 1st+3rd compensation, imagine Habs fans, they'd pull a Vancouver riot.

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01-26-2013, 02:10 PM
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I would offer Subban $5,046,584, max of the 1st+3rd compensation, imagine Habs fans, they'd pull a Vancouver riot.
Yea, that's why I said 5 mil. Same-ish money.

Puts them in a tough scenario. Make them pay double what they want to, or take the 1st and 3rd (which is crappy value for a young #1 D

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Oilers fan here I was just wondering what it would take for the oil to get Carl Gunnarsson?

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If I'm MON I would match. They'd likely have 2 top 10 picks. If we still don't have a real 1G this year, we won't be doing to much, even if we signed Weber.
Matching means that they are taking the contract and keeping him. If they didn't, I would trade Phaneuf for Stastny, and then trade Cmac+2nd for Luongo.

Lupul-Stastny-Kessel (Staz had chemistry with Kessel, now we need to get Parise )
JVR-Grabovski-Kulemin
Frattin-Kadri-Komarov
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Subban-Gardiner
Liles-Gunnarson
Kostka-Komisarek

Luongo-Riemer

If we didn't get playoffs with that, it'd be a catastrophe lol.

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01-26-2013, 02:15 PM
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Oilers fan here I was just wondering what it would take for the oil to get Carl Gunnarsson?
There is not much that Edmonton could offer right now that would get us to consider. Outside of the big 5 and your 1st, you would be looking at Smid which would be a sideways move at best, or a package of Klefbom + +

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