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01-26-2013, 01:00 PM
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No athlete ever dominated in any sport like Gretzky did, not even Wilt Chamberlain in basketball..

"Great One" is a great understatement..

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01-26-2013, 01:03 PM
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Pfft, everybody knows Forsberg was better.

jokes, #hflogic
#hflogic = someone will open up a "prime Gretzky vs prime Lindros" and Lindros will win lol

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01-26-2013, 01:16 PM
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I'm still trying to figure this out:

Let me help you on this one.

In sports game overall (Not just NHL, also fifa etc), the overall stats of a player does not represent how good the player actully is on the ice etc. It is the invidual stats that defines how good a player is. In NHL (Just like Fifa etc), a player have a lot of diffrent stats, from aggression to shoot power and more. ALL stats effects the overall. So if one player has 97 and another one 95, the one rated 97, could simply just be more aggresive, better at checking and some other random stat, while the 95 rated player, could be faster, have a better shot and overall a better player ON THE ICE, even if his overall is lower. The 97 rated player might just have high enough aggression, checking and toughness/whatever so his overall rating his higher, even if he is worse in skating, shooting and puck control. But if that is what you prefer, go with the 97 rated

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01-26-2013, 01:18 PM
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No athlete ever dominated in any sport like Gretzky did, not even Wilt Chamberlain in basketball..

"Great One" is a great understatement..
Schumacher, Pelé, Jordan, Federer and some more...

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01-26-2013, 01:25 PM
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Federer is being pounded by Murray and Djokovic. Maradona > Pele. Schumacher was beaten by Rosberg in the same car for pete's sake, for 3 straight years.. And even when he was at his best, Alonso beat him in a Renault...

So, no.

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01-26-2013, 01:37 PM
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Possible solutions...

- Just let the legends be above 100 even though present players can't be.

- In editions of the game with legends, scale down the present NHLers so that the best players are 65 - 70 so that Gretzky, Lemieux, and Orr can be ~90.

- In games/roster comparisons in which legends are involved, scale down the present NHLers appropriately.

And yeah, things like speed and passing should have way more weight than things like faceoffs if they don't already.

Fourth possible solution...

- Worry less about video game player rankings.

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Federer is being pounded by Murray and Djokovic. Maradona > Pele. Schumacher was beaten by Rosberg in the same car for pete's sake, for 3 straight years.. And even when he was at his best, Alonso beat him in a Renault...

So, no.
You actualy think that Maradonna was better than Pele?

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01-26-2013, 02:16 PM
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In fantasy hockey you used to be able to only choose his assist or goal totals as a pick. That's pretty crazy.

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Everyone has that moment when they get perspective of just how mind-bogglingly dominant Gretzky was
this. happens to everyone.


everyone.

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You actualy think that Maradonna was better than Pele?
Yes, but that's another discussion.

As for Gretzky, I just wish I had been able to see him in his prime.

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01-26-2013, 02:19 PM
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It's like when people realize how awesome Bruce Lee was.

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01-26-2013, 02:21 PM
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maybe the fact that he played on stacked team probably helped him a little
He played the majority of his career on terrible teams, including his early years with the Oilers.

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One of my favorite Gretzky stats is that Wayne and Brent Gretzky combine as the most successful brother duo in NHL history.

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It's like when people realize how awesome Bruce Lee was.
Hwang Jang Lee would've demolished him.

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01-26-2013, 02:28 PM
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I'm pretty sure I've seen this same thread on these forums a few times now during my time here. But still, I'm always in awe looking at his stats, even if I've seen them plenty of times before.

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01-26-2013, 02:34 PM
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No athlete ever dominated in any sport like Gretzky did, not even Wilt Chamberlain in basketball..

"Great One" is a great understatement..
Awful example you used there. Wilt absolutely dominated the league and it wasn't even funny. Quite literally was a man amongst boys. That's not to discredit Gretzky at all. It's just that Wilt was pretty much unstoppable. It really wasn't fair.

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01-26-2013, 05:11 PM
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Just another reason he is considered the greatest player in the history of the game.

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01-26-2013, 05:13 PM
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Yes, but that's another discussion.

As for Gretzky, I just wish I had been able to see him in his prime.
It was great. I especially enjoyed that people around Edmonton considered a 5 point game just an average night for Wayne. People would say "5 points...just another Gretzky game"

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Schumacher, Pelé, Jordan, Federer and some more...
You can compare Gretzky with those if : Schumaher= more championships than no-one else wins. Pelé= Messi is already better. Jordan= Kareem and Karl have more points. Federer= More Grand Slams than no-one else wins.

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Awful example you used there. Wilt absolutely dominated the league and it wasn't even funny. Quite literally was a man amongst boys. That's not to discredit Gretzky at all. It's just that Wilt was pretty much unstoppable. It really wasn't fair.
Gretzky was more dominant... and more successful. Chamberlain was amazing, but there's no comparison as far as dominance is concerned. He's not in the same league as Gretzky. He doesn't even lead the NBA in all-time scoring (4th all-time).

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Gretzky was more dominant... and more successful. Chamberlain was amazing, but there's no comparison as far as dominance is concerned. He's not in the same league as Gretzky. He doesn't even lead the NBA in all-time scoring (4th all-time).
It's actually close in regards to dominance. Gretzky's best season, he won the scoring title by 69%, Chamberlain's best season he won by 61%.

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He can thank half of his records to the fact that Mario played under 1000 games in his career.
And the era he played in.

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