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01-26-2013, 02:12 PM
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Doug MacLean @ “Vancouver Radio” : «Je confirme que les #Flyers ont déposé une offre pour P.K. Subban qui inclue Sean Couturier.» #Habs
https://twitter.com/NicolasPoulin/st...76723920715776

That's what's being referred to here. Doug MacLean was on the radio and said it.

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01-26-2013, 02:14 PM
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I really hope that isn't true. They better not trade Couturier.

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01-26-2013, 02:17 PM
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Nevermind. Either way, I don't see it on his Twitter.
I just looked it up. It's some guy from Montreal twitter account quoting Maclean. His profile is in french so i don't know if he's a writer or what.

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01-26-2013, 02:23 PM
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Really hope we don't trade Couts for Subban. If we are going to trade him I would have rather included him in a package for Weber last summer. This would suck if it happens

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01-26-2013, 02:25 PM
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Do not trade Couturier, do not trade him!

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01-26-2013, 02:25 PM
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couturier and a 1st for pk and galyenchuk....id do that.

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01-26-2013, 02:30 PM
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Don't really want to trade Couturier for Subban. I'd rather just ride out the season and see what happens.

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couturier and a 1st for pk and galyenchuk....id do that.
And the Habs wouldn't.

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01-26-2013, 02:33 PM
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Ummm if Couts gets traded for PK, Homer should have just sent Couts and Schenn to Nashville for Weber

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01-26-2013, 02:34 PM
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Don't really want to trade Couturier for Subban. I'd rather just ride out the season and see what happens.



And the Habs wouldn't.
I am on the ride out the season as well. I wouldn't mind trading picks for a roster player for the 3rd pairing or bottom six forwards if we have to. As long as we keep our first and second round picks.

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01-26-2013, 02:45 PM
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I have no clue what to believe anymore... Did Bob Mac, Lebrun, or Dreger weigh in on this yet? About trade discussions I mean?

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01-26-2013, 02:51 PM
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I have no clue what to believe anymore... Did Bob Mac, Lebrun, or Dreger weigh in on this yet? About trade discussions I mean?
Really didn't see anything on twitter from any of those guys today regarding Subban.

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01-26-2013, 02:51 PM
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Montreal can't offer PK that contract and then ask for Couts from us

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01-26-2013, 03:01 PM
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if couts is traded ill find homer and tell him im upset with his decision

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01-26-2013, 03:13 PM
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I am really torn on Subban. I would love to have him, and it might cost Couts. Its a tough pill to swallow, but it has to be one that is thought about. PK is an excellent young #1 potential defender, which is tougher to find than a #1 center. We have our #1 also with Giroux, and have another lined up with Schenn. There are some tough decisions that need to be made. Also with the injuries this team is suffering from, should we worry about getting that defender right now? We might find him in this years draft.

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01-26-2013, 03:18 PM
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Screw trading Couturier. Just offer sheet him. If they don't match it's great, if they do match it's no loss for us.

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01-26-2013, 03:25 PM
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I am really torn on Subban. I would love to have him, and it might cost Couts. Its a tough pill to swallow, but it has to be one that is thought about. PK is an excellent young #1 potential defender, which is tougher to find than a #1 center. We have our #1 also with Giroux, and have another lined up with Schenn. There are some tough decisions that need to be made. Also with the injuries this team is suffering from, should we worry about getting that defender right now? We might find him in this years draft.
The value might be right.
But there are some names before Subban I'd inquire about for Couturier.
You think Pheonix isn't going to think long and hard about getting Couts for OEL or Yandle?

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01-26-2013, 03:26 PM
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I really hope that isn't true. They better not trade Couturier.

Agree 100%, Im not sold on Subban yet and to be honest, we need to keep our young guns after trading away Richards, Carter, JVR, Jagr, etc

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01-26-2013, 03:29 PM
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The value might be right.
But there are some names before Subban I'd inquire about for Couturier.
You think Pheonix isn't going to think long and hard about getting Couts for OEL or Yandle?
There is one defenseman I love, Pietrangelo in St Louis that I would move him for no doubt. OEL is another, Yandle though I would try to make a deal around another young forward like Voracek or Read. I remember before the lockout, St Louis fans were worried because they believed if the Flyers come their way with an offer sheet like Webers, they won't be able to match for Piety. I would seriously make him the most paid player in the league if it meant getting him.

Disclaimer: I know Piety is not available and it's a pipe dream.

You also know the value is right in a trade when both fan bases hate the deal. Usually indicator it's right on the button.

Seems like St Louis spends right around 50 million a year on their team. They did last year and are this year. Maybe hitting them hard with a big offer sheet could spell trouble for them. They have a ton of RFA's to resign to.

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01-26-2013, 03:32 PM
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I'm ok with trading Couturier if it means getting a real or at least a potential blue chip #1 D-man. That said if Couturier is going to be thrown around in offers I hope its not just Montreal. We need to see what else is out there as well.

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01-26-2013, 03:44 PM
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Might as well put these here :

Largest contracts while staying under the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd deal :
7 years @ 4.107m per
6 years @ 4.791m per
5 years @ 5.75m per

Largest contract while staying under the 2 1sts, 2nd, and 3rd :
7 years @ 5.135m per
6 years @ 5.991m per
5 years @ 7.188m per

The one I like the most is the 5 years @ 5.75m per and then the 6 years @ 5.991m per
id do this way before i offered cooter

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01-26-2013, 03:46 PM
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The value might be right.
But there are some names before Subban I'd inquire about for Couturier.
You think Pheonix isn't going to think long and hard about getting Couts for OEL or Yandle?
No way Phoenix trades OEL for Couturier.

As for Yandle, he is soft as butter and Couturier would be an overpayment.

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01-26-2013, 03:47 PM
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I just want to be on record as saying that after these 4 games this year ( i know its only 4 games) that i have severely changed my view on Couturier's offensive potential.

I really dont see him being able to score much more than 50 pts a year. He has a difficult time getting his shot off , and he gets pushed around so easily. WHile he has improved his skating this year he still looks very slow.

I'd be tempted to sell high at this point for a guy like subban.

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01-26-2013, 04:02 PM
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I just want to be on record as saying that after these 4 games this year ( i know its only 4 games) that i have severely changed my view on Couturier's offensive potential.

I really dont see him being able to score much more than 50 pts a year. He has a difficult time getting his shot off , and he gets pushed around so easily. WHile he has improved his skating this year he still looks very slow.

I'd be tempted to sell high at this point for a guy like subban.
I think 50 was always a pretty realistic projection for his offensive output, honestly. Could he exceed that? Sure. But its not like 60 point scorers are common, particularly not in 2nd line roles.

That said, I'm not sure I'd go that far quite yet. Given the situation, it seems at lest possible that we should be able to pry Subban out of MTL without giving up Couturier.

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01-26-2013, 04:07 PM
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On the prospects 7 rd mock(a Canadiens fan), he had us trading Laughton, Mez and a 1st. Thoughts?

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I think 50 was always a pretty realistic projection for his offensive output, honestly. Could he exceed that? Sure. But its not like 60 point scorers are common, particularly not in 2nd line roles.

That said, I'm not sure I'd go that far quite yet. Given the situation, it seems at lest possible that we should be able to pry Subban out of MTL without giving up Couturier.
Giving up an un proven 2 way 2nd line center for a guy like subban... You do that everytime.

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