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*ALL* PK Subban talk (News/Speculation/Rumors/Proposals) III

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01-26-2013, 03:29 PM
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Which is fair especially if he performs over the term of the bridge contract. He should get paid what he deserves after the bridge contract. That's the whole point of it. Its zero risk zero reward.
There is risk involved from PK's side though.

What if he is injured this year after he signs the bridge contract?

He played so well last year, and now he may have to deal with the fact that he'll never be the same player again.

If he signs a bridge deal, PK is taking a LOT more risk than the Habs are.

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01-26-2013, 03:31 PM
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How is PK taking zero risks?

What if he is injured this year after he signs the bridge contract?

He played so well last year, and now he may have to deal with the fact that he'll never be the same player again.

If he signs a bridge deal, PK is taking a LOT more risk than the Habs are.
On the flip side, if he performs during the bridge contract he will get more $$$ in a future longterm contract than he would if he were to sign a longterm one now. It works both ways.

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I think Subban will sign the bridge deal, but not for 2.5M, I think 3.75-4M/year over 2 years.

I think he'll let this one go for now, but he's going to keep this in mind when he's negotiating a deal next time he's up for a new contract.
I think this is one of the best points I've read in this ordeal. Habs management needs to up the offer to that upper 3 to 4 figure per. Assuming the 2.5 is real.
If they elect to use the hammer they best be ready for him to use it when his time comes. Everybody eventually gets a turn.

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There is risk involved from PK's side though.

What if he is injured this year after he signs the bridge contract?

He played so well last year, and now he may have to deal with the fact that he'll never be the same player again.

If he signs a bridge deal, PK is taking a LOT more risk than the Habs are.
Insurance would cover that.

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01-26-2013, 03:37 PM
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When is last date we have to trade him by if he is not signed this year?

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I would do bieksa + 1st for subban.

Then sign subban to a 8 year 4mil a year type deal that he wants.

I doubt bieksa would waive his NTC to montreal tho.
I doubt Bergevin wouldn't laugh at that deal anyway. Bieksa and basically a second round pick... right.

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I think this is one of the best points I've read in this ordeal. Habs management needs to up the offer to that upper 3 to 4 figure per. Assuming the 2.5 is real.
If they elect to use the hammer they best be ready for him to use it when his time comes. Everybody eventually gets a turn.
MB hasn't had a problem to sign Price and Pacioretty, I'm sure if Subban was to sign that bridge deal then when his time comes Bergevin would be happy to give him that fat long term contract.

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01-26-2013, 03:50 PM
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MB hasn't had a problem to sign Price and Pacioretty, I'm sure if Subban was to sign that bridge deal then when his time comes Bergevin would be happy to give him that fat long term contract.
weird.

It looks again like the CBA talks between the Owners and the NHLPA. No trust.

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I think Subban will sign the bridge deal, but not for 2.5M, I think 3.75-4M/year over 2 years.

I think he'll let this one go for now, but he's going to keep this in mind when he's negotiating a deal next time he's up for a new contract.
So do I.

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01-26-2013, 04:07 PM
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It's like they want to lose what most would consider to be their second most valuable player. Ridiculous lowball offer. People wouldn't bat an eyelash if he got offered four to five mil over that term yet they're at 2.5? Da ****? If they added Subban to a healthy Markov they'd have a rather formidable blue-line.

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01-26-2013, 04:15 PM
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2 days ago PK was a greedy kid who thought he was better than he was, asking for superstar money.

Now the Montreal Canadiens are a stupid organization that won't pay their future stars what they are worth.

Seriously, first team to offer a second for this headache gets his rights.

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2 days ago PK was a greedy kid who thought he was better than he was, asking for superstar money.

Now the Montreal Canadiens are a stupid organization that won't pay their future stars what they are worth.

Seriously, first team to offer a second for this headache gets his rights.
We went through it with Kessel. It eventually works out at the end.

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Okay realistically then Habs fans, what do you think PK's Value is?. Because the 100 proposals, you guys have said no to every single one.

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2 days ago PK was a greedy kid who thought he was better than he was, asking for superstar money.

Now the Montreal Canadiens are a stupid organization that won't pay their future stars what they are worth.

Seriously, first team to offer a second for this headache gets his rights.
If the Habs offered 2 years, 2.5M per, then yes, the Habs are a stupid organization. If Subban asked for 5+ years, 7M per, then yes, he's a greed kid asking for superstar money.

Both can be true at the same time.

Not sure why the Habs would only offer 2.5M per. 2005 called, they want their RFA contract offer back.

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Okay realistically then Habs fans, what do you think PK's Value is?. Because the 100 proposals, you guys have said no to every single one.
We're not shopping him.

So, if you want him, its going to take a future top 50 player in the league coming back.

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01-26-2013, 04:22 PM
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If the Habs offered 2 years, 2.5M per, then yes, the Habs are a stupid organization. If Subban asked for 5+ years, 7M per, then yes, he's a greed kid asking for superstar money.

Both can be true at the same time.
Yet we have heard that the sides are only 2 million and 2 years apart. So 2/5 is extremely low and 5/35 is too high.

The truth is likely somewhere in the middle.

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Okay realistically then Habs fans, what do you think PK's Value is?. Because the 100 proposals, you guys have said no to every single one.
A player who can have immediate impact on our team and has potential... like... PK!

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We went through it with Kessel. It eventually works out at the end.
Ya I suppose it worked out OK for the Bruins!

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A player who can have immediate impact on our team and has potential... like... PK!
Montreal is the one stuck in an RFA battle. They're the ones with the pressure on them to either sign or trade PK.

With that said they should just bump the offer up by two mil and end this.

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Montreal is the one stuck in an RFA battle. They're the ones with the pressure on them to either sign or trade PK.

With that said they should just bump the offer up by two mil and end this.
I'm sure in the end they will. I am also almost 100% sure we have no idea what is going on in talks, Dreger or not. 5/2 just seems ridiculously low.

Mind you Gorges signed a modest 1 year contract the year before last I think?

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I'm sure in the end they will. I am also almost 100% sure we have no idea what is going on in talks, Dreger or not. 5/2 just seems ridiculously low.

Mind you Gorges signed a modest 1 year contract the year before last I think?
Eh, Dregers notoriously reliable so I'm inclined to believe him.

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Okay realistically then Habs fans, what do you think PK's Value is?. Because the 100 proposals, you guys have said no to every single one.
Couturier +

Not that anyone expects the Habs would get that. If PK is traded, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Schenn brothers going the other way.

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Couturier +

Not that anyone expects the Habs would get that. If PK is traded, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Schenn brothers going the other way.
I wouldn't even do Coots straight up for PK. Schenn I would definitely do though.

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Montreal is the one stuck in an RFA battle. They're the ones with the pressure on them to either sign or trade PK.

With that said they should just bump the offer up by two mil and end this.
I agree, but i have a feeling we are missing something. I refuse to believe that Bergevin is lowballing with a 2.5M per, 2 year offer. Thats just embarrassing if true. I don't believe it at all. There has to be more to this issue.

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I wouldn't even do Coots straight up for PK. Schenn I would definitely do though.
I wouldn't do Pk for either straight up. Plus must be on flyers side.

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