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01-26-2013, 07:22 PM
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There's also a total inability to play pucks across the goal mouth. You watch the Sharks or Wild, they have set plays where they can actually get the pucks into the blue paint for rebounds or tip ins. That never happens with Boston.

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01-26-2013, 07:23 PM
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Remember when Chara used to sneak in for the back door play? I used to love that.

We also need to keep in mind that as frustrating it is to watch the Bruins' PP, they haven't been as awful since Savard's career ended as we like to to think.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/stats/by...ar=season_2011

They were middle of the pack last year w/ 43 PPG in 250 chances for 17.2% conversion

Philly was first with 54 PPG in 250 chances or 21.6%

Two years ago, they were below average, but so were the Penguins. Both were around 16%.

The year they had the unstoppable offense led by Savvy and Phil, they were ranked 5th at over 23%.



Obviously the PP is not a strength at this point, but we tend to pile on and be a bit too demanding too.

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01-26-2013, 07:29 PM
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There's also a total inability to play pucks across the goal mouth. You watch the Sharks or Wild, they have set plays where they can actually get the pucks into the blue paint for rebounds or tip ins. That never happens with Boston.
True. I think it's a symptom of the fact that they rarely work the puck down low on the PP. It's half-wall, point the majority of the time. The shots that they take are low percentage shots, often contested, from outside prime scoring areas. There is nothing wrong with working the puck high to low, working it behind the net, actually using the net as another forward. When you work it down low, it forces the PKers to collapse, and then the rest of the zone is opened up for point shots, etc.

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01-26-2013, 07:33 PM
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Remember when Chara used to sneak in for the back door play? I used to love that.
As did I. Chara is best suited to playing the majority of the PP off the puck. When you are depending on him to set up in the zone and distribute the puck, he is not at his best. But when he is looking for seams and getting the occasional one-timer, he's pretty good.

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01-26-2013, 07:36 PM
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Suggestion: Shoot the puck rather than look for the perfect play.

Simple.

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01-26-2013, 07:39 PM
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Suggestion: Shoot the puck rather than look for the perfect play.

Simple.
This is why I was seriously advocating sending the Merlot line out on the PP. It's getting to the point where they just need a funny bounce or a deflection to get a PPG. I'd rather just get 4 or 5 SOG than spend 30 seconds trying to set it up and pick a corner just to see the puck sail wide or hit a leg and exit the zone.

Simplify things.

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01-26-2013, 07:44 PM
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More Dougie.

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01-26-2013, 07:44 PM
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Suggestion for the powerplay:

Ryan Spooner

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01-26-2013, 07:48 PM
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More Dougie.
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01-26-2013, 09:49 PM
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Suggestion: Shoot the puck rather than look for the perfect play.

Simple.
I agree with this more than anything. When you have a man advantage it gets a lot easier to put in a rebound. I see way too many times where a Bruin passes up a decent chance to shoot with a teammate in front of the net, but elects to keep cycling the puck instead. The Coyotes are not one of the more talented teams, but if you watch them they shoot from all angles, and try to keep the pressure on. That gives them many good put back opportunities. I wish the Bs would do that on their pp. They are too talented to have such an anemic pp at times.

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01-26-2013, 09:57 PM
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Or, once a minor is assessed. Send Thornton out to take the faceoff. Puck drops, punch opposing center right in the face, and go 4 on 4.

Not practical. But it would be hilarious.
God i wish teams had the option to deny a power play. Damn thing is a momentum killer.

Arguing about how to fix the PP is like arguing how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. Who cares.

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01-26-2013, 10:02 PM
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I actually don't think it's looked completely terrible at times. I just can't stand when the point men play catch for 30 seconds while the three forwards stand still.

As much as I hate blocked shots, I prefer they just get 2 guys (if not 3) to push towards the net as Chara blasts one in the vicinity of the goal. The puck has to bounce somewhere eventually. Heck, let Ference whip wristers for 2 minutes, he's fairly accurate.

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01-26-2013, 10:15 PM
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I don't like when the 1st unit sets up with Horton or Lucic in the slot about 8-10 in front of the crease and then they try to set him up to shoot from there. Saw this a few times last night. have that guy get his big ol'butt right in front of the goalie and go for deflections and rebounds.

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Yes to shoot the puck more. Yes to dougie. Yes to Spooner a savard tyke passer and shooter

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God i wish teams had the option to deny a power play. Damn thing is a momentum killer.

Arguing about how to fix the PP is like arguing how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. Who cares.
You can talk all day a/b it and nothing will change.

Why do I say that? Because they'll do something that works. Next PP they're right back to jamming a square peg into a round hole. It's like watching my wife parallel park.

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Suggestion: Shoot the puck rather than look for the perfect play.

Simple.
So true. The other night watching them on the PP in person I was shouting, SHOOT THE PUCK!! Just Shoot it!!! By the way they got their first PP goal that night. I agree, I think if you're PP isn't working so well and guys are pressing too much, than why not just shoot the puck on goal as often as you can and play for the bounces/deflections/rebounds.

I think they try so hard to get in the right positions that they mess it up. In other words they choke on the PP. The opposing teams just start seeing the play before it even happens. Its to slow and too stationary.. Move those feet guys! quick, quick, quick!!

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You can talk all day a/b it and nothing will change.

Why do I say that? Because they'll do something that works. Next PP they're right back to jamming a square peg into a round hole. It's like watching my wife parallel park.
Right on..

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After a 2.5 year sample size, at some point Chia has to be thinking personnel. If it was just a matter of formations, you could grab tape on the top 5 pp's in the nhl, absorb the knowledge, and apply. Obviously they'd have tried this ages ago. So at some point you have to accept that your team makeup just doesn't work on the PP. Then you decide how much that's going to cost you or not come playoff time. Last year and the year against Carolina, it 100% cost them their series.

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Option A. More Chris Bourque.

Opttion B. More Obnoxious fans in the garden screaming SHOOT! Everytime anyone has the puck with a player clearly blocking the shooting lane.




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http://www.csnne.com/hockey-boston-b...23&feedID=3352

Julien: Power-play critics need to 'take a breath'

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Julien: Power-play critics need to 'take a breath'
YESSSSSSSSSSSS! Finally some perspective on this non issue -

I could throw a lot of things at you whether it was LA winning last year without a [good] power play or Tampa Bay not even practicing the power play this year because they know you cant win a Cup without strong five-on-five play. But I think people need to step back and maybe take a breath a little bit . . . and not make a mountain out of a power play. We want it to work well, but its not the end of the world. Were still winning hockey games.

How did that kick a$$ PP help the Bolts in game 7 of 2011?

A great PP wins you the Presidents trophy, a great PK wins you the cup.

Gimme a team that is top five in 5 on 5 scoring and top 5 in PK over a bunch of PP ****** any time.

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YESSSSSSSSSSSS! Finally some perspective on this non issue -

I could throw a lot of things at you whether it was LA winning last year without a [good] power play or Tampa Bay not even practicing the power play this year because they know you cant win a Cup without strong five-on-five play. But I think people need to step back and maybe take a breath a little bit . . . and not make a mountain out of a power play. We want it to work well, but its not the end of the world. Were still winning hockey games.

How did that kick a$$ PP help the Bolts in game 7 of 2011?

A great PP wins you the Presidents trophy, a great PK wins you the cup.

Gimme a team that is top five in 5 on 5 scoring and top 5 in PK over a bunch of PP ****** any time.
The problem is that you never know what kind of ref'ing you're gonna get. Last couple years have been good, but with the garbage calls this year I'm afraid divers and whiners will be rewarded with countless PP opportunities. Even a great PK is sometimes bound to give up a couple of goals with 7-8 PP opportunities per game.

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It doesn't matter who they put out on the PP because the focus of said PP has been the same for years, and it's why it sucks as a whole. You cannot use the PP solely to get a shot from the point when you don't have any traffic in front, and you don't have any movement from the rest of the players. Nobody moves without the puck, and all they try to do work it back to the point for a shot. How this can still be an issue 3 years later is beyond me.

Stop making the singular focus a shot from the point. Work the puck down low and on the half wall. Forwards need to move without the puck. Create passing lanes, and player overloads Then, if you have to feed it back to the point, maybe you'll get a screen for a tip or a rebound to capitalize on.

Either way, this 50 foot unscreened shot crap has to end. It's not working. It hasn't worked for 3 years. Be professional and fix it.

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01-28-2013, 01:24 PM
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YESSSSSSSSSSSS! Finally some perspective on this non issue -

I could throw a lot of things at you whether it was LA winning last year without a [good] power play or Tampa Bay not even practicing the power play this year because they know you cant win a Cup without strong five-on-five play. But I think people need to step back and maybe take a breath a little bit . . . and not make a mountain out of a power play. We want it to work well, but its not the end of the world. Were still winning hockey games.

How did that kick a$$ PP help the Bolts in game 7 of 2011?

A great PP wins you the Presidents trophy, a great PK wins you the cup.

Gimme a team that is top five in 5 on 5 scoring and top 5 in PK over a bunch of PP ****** any time.
You don't have to convert every PP chance you have, and you would certainly be better served playing and scoring at a higher level when skating 5 on 5, but a PP is an advantage. One that this team hasn't consistently converted on for 3 years now. It's laughable. If they could have mustered even a decent PP during that series with the Caps last year, they may have advanced. Instead they got beat by a team that shouldn't have come close to hanging with them, let alone won the series.

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