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01-24-2013, 04:12 PM
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Sounds like a sprain rather than a tear, so that's good news, comparatively speaking.
Yeh 4-6 weeks isn't ideal but it could've been far worse. Any sort of tear would be 4-6 months at least, and see him done for the season.

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01-24-2013, 04:17 PM
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Brett Ritchie's sickness and injury filled year was his draft year. Hopefully this is Faksa's mulligan.

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01-25-2013, 12:34 AM
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Ritchie DNP, got suspended for pummeling some fool in the last 5 minutes of the game.

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01-25-2013, 03:31 AM
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This may be a dumb question, where will Ritchie play next year?

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01-25-2013, 04:07 AM
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This may be a dumb question, where will Ritchie play next year?
Either in Austin or Dallas.

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01-26-2013, 12:00 AM
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CHL - January 25th
 
vs.
Result
GAPtsPIM+/-
★★★
Season:
GP
G
A
PtsPIM+/-
G. Smith
1-2 L
0
0
0
2
E
  
47
19
24
43
48
+17
Winther
1-4 L
0
0
0
0
-3
  
44
17
23
40
47
+19


NCAA - January 25th
 
vs.
Result
GAPtsPIM+/-
★★★
Season:
GP
G
A
PtsPIM
Guptill
2-3 L
1
0
1
0
-1
  
23
7
10
17
18
McKenzie
2-1 W
0
1
1
15
E
  
23
7
9
16
62
Shore
4-1 W
0
1
1
2
+1
  
24
2
8
10
6

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01-26-2013, 11:38 PM
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CHL - January 26th
 
vs.
Result
GAPtsPIM+/-
★★★
Season:
GP
G
A
PtsPIM+/-
G. Smith
0-5 L
0
0
0
0
-3
  
48
19
24
43
48
+14
Winther
2-6 L
0
0
0
0
E
  
45
17
23
40
47
+19
Vance
4-2 W
0
0
0
0
+3
  
47
3
16
19
45
-5


NCAA - January 26th
 
vs.
Result
GAPtsPIM+/-
★★★
Season:
GP
G
A
PtsPIM
Guptill
1-5 L
0
0
0
2
-2
  
24
7
10
17
20
Shore
3-1 W
0
1
1
0
+1
  
25
2
9
11
6

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01-27-2013, 02:03 AM
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01-27-2013, 08:10 AM
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Wow. Maine's the worst team in Hockey East, and they some how swept BC. The scores would indicate they didn't just squeak by either. Good for Shore on picking up 2 points in the the 2 games.

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01-27-2013, 10:31 AM
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Yeah hopefully Shore is getting some more responsibility for the tail end of his freshman season.

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01-27-2013, 10:37 AM
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Yeah hopefully Shore is getting some more responsibility for the tail end of his freshman season.
I read an article recently that he's back on the 1st line. I think in November they made an all-Freshman line he was on that was basically the 2nd line, but they looked pretty good from reports.

IIRC .... this is actually Maine's 3rd win against BC which is pretty impressive.

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01-27-2013, 10:49 AM
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So what's up with Guptill? Seems like whenever someone who watches play talks about him, they think the world of him, but I just don't see that in the stats.

Is he just not getting as much ice time and responsibility as he could by playing for such a high-powered school, or is he just not that good?

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01-27-2013, 12:42 PM
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eliteprospects.com
But of course .

I heard from DBD that HF's rankings aren't up-to-date though. Is that true?

Oh, and I don't see rankings on eliteprospects a la HF.

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01-27-2013, 12:56 PM
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What do you mean they're not up to date? They're updated in the fall.

Updating them constantly doesn't matter if the rankings are bad.

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What do you mean they're not up to date? They're updated in the fall.
If it's every fall, then that's what they meant. They don't update them often enough.

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Updating them constantly doesn't matter if the rankings are bad.
Only in that case. I'd like to get updates on Oleksiak, Nemeth, Ritchie, Chiasson, Fraser, Campbell, et al. more often than just every fall. Oleksiak is still stuck at 7.5 C and Fraser on 6.5 B on here, when both are on the AHL all-star roster.


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01-27-2013, 01:10 PM
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Every 6 months would be a bit better, IMO. Not too hard to do, either. I know most of those guys volunteer (I think?), but still.

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01-27-2013, 01:15 PM
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Well rankings are different from grades. A prospect's grade isn't going to change too much because of short-term accomplishments or setbacks.

My opinion on the Oleksiak grade would be that it's too conservative. He should be either an 8.0 C or a 7.5 B

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01-27-2013, 01:22 PM
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Well rankings are different from grades. A prospect's grade isn't going to change too much because of short-term accomplishments or setbacks.

My opinion on the Oleksiak grade would be that it's too conservative. He should be either an 8.0 C or a 7.5 B
Rankings on HF are based on a combination of the numerical and letter grades- with the former getting precedence over the latter- are they not? Fraser is ranked 13th among Stars prospects as a result of his 6.5 B. Also the list still has Eakin, Dillon, and Smith. It definitely needs to update itself more often than 1 year.

Twice a year would be good.

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01-27-2013, 01:46 PM
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No, the rankings are subjective. They're not just an ordered byproduct of the grades.

Dillon has played 6 NHL games, R. Smith has played 8 NHL games. They're still prospects by anyone's definition.

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So what's up with Guptill? Seems like whenever someone who watches play talks about him, they think the world of him, but I just don't see that in the stats.

Is he just not getting as much ice time and responsibility as he could by playing for such a high-powered school, or is he just not that good?
It seems to be a combination of Michigan being a bad team and Guptill's play disappointing. By most accounts Michigan has a weak crop of seniors and juniors and the opportunity is there for freshmen and sophomores to take over. Guptill was rewarded in such a manner last year as a freshman. Yet this year he hasn't been able to take the next step and become a breakout leader of the team in the same way that R. Smith was able to at Miami. That said, he's still one of Michigan's top scorers. He has too much skill to be shut out completely. Does he have the work ethic and drive to go along with it is the question.

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No, the rankings are subjective. They're not just an ordered byproduct of the grades.

Dillon has played 6 NHL games, R. Smith has played 8 NHL games. They're still prospects by anyone's definition.
Thanks for clarifying, but I'd assume the grades too are a subjective score, unless there is a metric to utilize to assign the grades.

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01-27-2013, 03:06 PM
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Well of course they are. I'm just saying that one is not the automatic result of the other. There's a degree of leeway to how the rankings are arranged.

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Stransky
5-0 W
1
1
2
2
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48
24
29
53
57
+11
Ritchie
1-2 L
0
0
0
0
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36
28
24
52
32
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