HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Central Division > Winnipeg Jets
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Jets interested in Subban?

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
01-27-2013, 01:11 PM
  #1
Resurrection
Registered User
 
Resurrection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,676
vCash: 50
Jets interested in Subban?

http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/01/26...ter-slow-start

Quote:
RUMOURS DU JOUR

After Montreal GM Marc Bergevin sat down with agent Don Meehan for a meeting Friday, the future of Habs blueliner P.K. Subban is all the rage. [...] If the Habs decide to deal Subban, Detroit, Philadelphia and the Rangers will make a push. But sources insist there is a surprise candidate that could have the assets to acquire Subban -- the Winnipeg Jets. League sources say GM Kevin Cheveldayoff wants to make a splash to get an impact player.
I would love PK in a Jets uniform. He's a very dynamic young D man on the rise, just a little weary about who they would want back. Likely not a small price tag.

Resurrection is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:16 PM
  #2
Sweech
COYS!
 
Sweech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,858
vCash: 50
We were talking about it in the other thread.

Doesn't make sense. Plus it's Garrioch...soooo yeah.

Sweech is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:17 PM
  #3
bazaaa*
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,664
vCash: 50
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...300785&page=39

bazaaa* is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:17 PM
  #4
Jet
Moderator
Drop the danged puck
 
Jet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: New Glasgow
Country: Scotland
Posts: 17,471
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Resurrection View Post
http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/01/26...ter-slow-start



I would love PK in a Jets uniform. He's a very dynamic young D man on the rise, just a little weary about who they would want back. Likely not a small price tag.
As I said in the other thread, I wouldn't want to give up what the Habs would want to get Subban. We are talking about a part of our core for a guy who, while is immensely talented, might not fit in with the culture the team is trying to build.

Putting that aside, If the Habs are asking for Bogo, Enstrom, Buff, Trouba, Kane, the answer IMHO is absolutely not. If, however, the package includes Burmistrov, Scheifele, or Little, I would have to consider it depending on the other players/ assets involved. If they wanted Wheeler I would really be on the fence.

Chances are, though, they don't want any of those players. They would most likely want Bogosian or Kane and I say no thanks.

__________________
The Olympic Line
Jet is online now  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:18 PM
  #5
Gump Hasek
Spleen Merchant
 
Gump Hasek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: 222 Tudor Terrace
Posts: 7,382
vCash: 1250
Quote:
Originally Posted by Resurrection View Post
http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/01/26...ter-slow-start

I would love PK in a Jets uniform. He's a very dynamic young D man on the rise, just a little weary about who they would want back. Likely not a small price tag.
This smacks as coming from a Montreal source rather than Winnipeg. The reporter is speculating the Jets have the assets to get a deal done, not that the Jets have expressed an interest in doing a deal nor that they are in any discussions. Sounds more like Montreal are trying to move him versus any expression from the Jets regarding trying to acquire him.

Rumour: Montreal wants to move a player. News at 11.

Gump Hasek is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:20 PM
  #6
allan5oh
#Dive4Five #31Buyout
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 6,409
vCash: 50
I don't think I'd be willing to pay for what it takes to get him.

allan5oh is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:22 PM
  #7
truck
HFB Partner
 
truck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,429
vCash: 495
I doubt it but...

Perhaps my proposed Thorbs for Subban trade has some merit.

truck is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:24 PM
  #8
Resurrection
Registered User
 
Resurrection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,676
vCash: 50
Thorburn Schefeille and a 1st for Subban? Seems like a high price but for a proven dynamic D man? I think I'd pay that.

Resurrection is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:26 PM
  #9
WJG
Running and Rioting
 
WJG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Country: Ireland
Posts: 12,745
vCash: 500
Trouba + Cormier + 1st?

As much as I like Trouba, I would give him up if it meant getting Subban.

WJG is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:26 PM
  #10
Romang67
BitterSwede
 
Romang67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Maryland
Country: Sweden
Posts: 10,094
vCash: 545
Quote:
Originally Posted by truck View Post
I doubt it but...

Perhaps my proposed Thorbs for Subban trade has some merit.
We did pick up two other 4th liners. Coincidence? I think not.

Romang67 is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:31 PM
  #11
Le Golie
...
 
Le Golie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,756
vCash: 500
If the Jets wanted him, why not just sign him to an offer sheet and give up a first and third round draft pick? Those assets have less value than anything the Habs would be asking for in a trade. Any offer sheet would be lower than $5,046,585 per year, and that's all the compensation we'd lose.

No big deal, especially if the Jets are a playoff team with Subban and Bogosian down the stretch.

Le Golie is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:35 PM
  #12
Flair Hay
Registered User
 
Flair Hay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Winnipeg
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,131
vCash: 155
Quote:
Originally Posted by Le Golie View Post
If the Jets wanted him, why not just sign him to an offer sheet and give up future draft picks? Those assets have less value than anything the Habs would be asking for in a trade.
...Good point.

I could deal with a 1st/2nd/3rd in one year if it meant getting a guy who is already a borderline star that still has room to improve.

Habs fans would love us.

6/7 years, 5 mil per. Habs would match in all likelihood.

Flair Hay is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:35 PM
  #13
allan5oh
#Dive4Five #31Buyout
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 6,409
vCash: 50
It depends on how much Subban wants. I think Montreal would accept most offer sheet terms.

allan5oh is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:38 PM
  #14
Le Golie
...
 
Le Golie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,756
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by allan5oh View Post
It depends on how much Subban wants. I think Montreal would accept most offer sheet terms.
Montreal is refusing to budge off a short term deal worth $2.4 and $2.9 million per. That's not a lot of money at all. But if that's their philosophy, there is no way they'd match an offer sheet for $4+.

Le Golie is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:39 PM
  #15
Resurrection
Registered User
 
Resurrection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,676
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by WJG View Post
Trouba + Cormier + 1st?

As much as I like Trouba, I would give him up if it meant getting Subban.
Trouba, imo, is a superstar defenceman in the making. I wouldn't trade him. I think he's going to be the guy who anchors our defender.

Resurrection is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:40 PM
  #16
BennyTheJet
Registered User
 
BennyTheJet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 317
vCash: 50
Could you imagine Bogosian and Subban on a line?

BennyTheJet is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:46 PM
  #17
truck
HFB Partner
 
truck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,429
vCash: 495
Quote:
Originally Posted by Resurrection View Post
Trouba, imo, is a superstar defenceman in the making. I wouldn't trade him. I think he's going to be the guy who anchors our defender.
There have been many super stars in the making that gave flopped.

There aren't many prospects that I would bet on being better than Subban because most won't ever get there.

I like Trouba, but there is no such thing as a sure thing.

truck is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:46 PM
  #18
King Woodballs
MVP! MVP! MVP!
 
King Woodballs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Your Mind
Posts: 32,150
vCash: 50
I dont see anyone trading assests to get Subban.

Like others have said, why not just offer sheet him and give up picks instead

King Woodballs is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:49 PM
  #19
gholas
Registered User
 
gholas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,325
vCash: 50
We've never had a D prospect like Trouba, he's going nowhere.

Subban thinks he's a superstar, fact is he is not and never going to be but he can be very important when hes not trying to do to much. In Wpg we wouldn't need him to be the offensive force he was trying to in MTL, he'll never be better than Buff and Toby here.

gholas is online now  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:50 PM
  #20
truck
HFB Partner
 
truck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,429
vCash: 495
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Woodballs View Post
I dont see anyone trading assests to get Subban.

Like others have said, why not just offer sheet him and give up picks instead
I am stunned that the Flyers haven't done it already.

truck is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:51 PM
  #21
Guerzy
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Guerzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Country: Canada
Posts: 15,329
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by truck View Post
There have been many super stars in the making that gave flopped.

There aren't many prospects that I would bet on being better than Subban because most won't ever get there.

I like Trouba, but there is no such thing as a sure thing.
I love Trouba and though I am on the fence on whether or not I would want to see us trade him in a Subban deal, I think you make great points. On top of that, Subban is extremely young in his own right at just 23 and only 2 years NHL experience under his belt.

__________________
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=43225&dateline=141082  3903
"The ‘now’ is very good in Chicago. The ‘now’ back in the days when they were drafting first, second and third? It wasn’t very good. But the core of fans that stuck with them, if you asked them now, I betcha they’d say it was worth it.” - Kevin Cheveldayoff
Guerzy is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 01:51 PM
  #22
allan5oh
#Dive4Five #31Buyout
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 6,409
vCash: 50
Does Subban play on the left side or is that mostly just power plays?

allan5oh is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 02:03 PM
  #23
Sweech
COYS!
 
Sweech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,858
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Resurrection View Post
Thorburn Schefeille and a 1st for Subban? Seems like a high price but for a proven dynamic D man? I think I'd pay that.
See, I don't think I would. The amount of money we would have to pay him compared to the amount of minutes he'd get (with our already stacked D) wouldn't really equate.

Sweech is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 02:09 PM
  #24
GrandChelems
Registered User
 
GrandChelems's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Winnipeg
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,717
vCash: 2209
Over-rated and over-priced player. I don't think he's that bad ... and I don't have anything against him ... but he's built up his name using TV appearances (mostly off the ice) and is trying to cash in on that right now; hence over-rated and over-priced. Bad deal from a hockey side going after this guy right now, I'm sure most GM's can see this.

GrandChelems is offline  
Old
01-27-2013, 02:11 PM
  #25
Resurrection
Registered User
 
Resurrection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,676
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweech View Post
See, I don't think I would. The amount of money we would have to pay him compared to the amount of minutes he'd get (with our already stacked D) wouldn't really equate.
I'm not sure I'd consider our defence stacked. Bogosian+Subban, Byfuglien+Enstrom, Hainsey+Postma. That's a great defence. Eventually Trouba would enter that equation and replace Hainsey

Resurrection is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:24 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.