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Kassian vs Hodgson

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Kassian 84 35.44%
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01-24-2013, 05:59 PM
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You don't need to put down Kassian to pump up Hodgson.
While I agree that Kassian was underwhelming and highly inconsistent for Buffalo, he has absolutely played well in the early going this year for Vancouver.

I absolutely would not trade back now though, so Hodgson for me. He has crazy high hockey IQ, his skating has improved, and he filled a huge hole on our roster. I think he has the potential to be Pominville as a center, basically, which is a great two-way forward, a good leader, and a consistent top line player. Kassian has plenty of potential too, but I think he's got quite a bit farther to go than Hodgson to fulfill it. He's had a good start this year, but for a kid who had major problems with consistency, I have a hard time banking on it lasting a whole season. I think he will have a lot of peaks and valleys in his play while he continues to develop.
I think that inconsistency applies to both players to date. I'd wait for this year to see if both are able to bring their play to a consistent level every night. Certainly I would agree also that Hodgson is ahead of Kassian in development as he has had that extra year. Kassian looks like he is faster and in better shape than last year but I expect some peaks and valley just like we saw with Hodgson last year.
At this point there is no way I would reverse the trade either. Kassian is the kind of player I love. Old time hockey.

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01-24-2013, 06:09 PM
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It's probably been said at least a dozen times in here already, but it's just too early to tell. Kassian in my opinion has a higher upside and at 21 years old he still has plenty of time to develop that, but I have no idea if he can do that. Not voting.

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01-24-2013, 08:54 PM
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Of course Kassian is behind in his development compared to Hodgson. He is a year behind.

Last year Kassian was just like Hodgson was 2 years ago. Showed a couple of flashes but also showed he wasn't ready for regular NHL duty. Last year Cody proved he could play significant minutes with a top team and produce. That is exactly what Kassian has done so far.
Cool the jets just a little. A 2 game sample size doesn't "prove" anything, though he's admittedly playing well.
And didn't Cody basically lose a full year to injury? Because that would realistically put them at about the same spot development-wise despite the age difference. Doesn't necessarily mean much since power forward types are often later bloomers, but it does seem a little unfair to say Hodgson has an extra year of development/experience when really he doesn't.


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01-24-2013, 09:02 PM
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I still hate the trade and would rather have Hodgson but I'm warming up to Kassian. He seems to be developing quicker than I expected, and could be a force in the playoffs.

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01-25-2013, 12:44 AM
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The Sedins on a bad day make more things happen than Kassian. They haven't been great yet but even rusty they're miles ahead of Zk.
I don't think I implied otherwise. I'm just saying Sedins weren't on their A game and it wasn't like they were the only reason Zack looked good. They didn't have to carry him.

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01-25-2013, 12:53 AM
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The 1 year behind argument is pretty stupid considering Hodgson missed close to a year because of a back injury.

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1. Cody Hodgson is 6'0", 185. If anything that's protypical size for skilled offensive players.

2. The guy that's a center is harder to find, almost always.
He's not 6'0 foot tall. He's more or less the same height Kyle Wellwood.

While we are at it, Jordan Schroeder is also not 5'9.5. He's more like 5'7.

Alot of these stats are not totally accurate.

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01-25-2013, 01:04 AM
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Canucks badly needed some size and toughness in the top 6. Players with Kassians make up are hard to find. Love Hodgson though. IMO it's worth it for the Canucks to give up some skill in exchange for size and toughness in this case. Team need!

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He's not 6'0 foot tall. He's more or less the same height Kyle Wellwood.

While we are at it, Jordan Schroeder is also not 5'9.5. He's more like 5'7.

Alot of these stats are not totally accurate.
Neither is your post

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01-25-2013, 10:18 AM
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Hodgson is probably the better player, but I wouldn't redo the the trade. Kassian is more valuable to the Canucks than Hodgson is. Obviously Buffalo feels Hodgson is more valuable than Kassian to there team, which is also correct.

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01-25-2013, 10:26 AM
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He's not 6'0 foot tall. He's more or less the same height Kyle Wellwood.

While we are at it, Jordan Schroeder is also not 5'9.5. He's more like 5'7.

Alot of these stats are not totally accurate.
According to the Canucks website, Schroeder is 5 foot 8

http://canucks.nhl.com/club/roster.htm

hockeydb says 5'9"

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=116647

Wikipedia says 5'9" as well

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Schroeder

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01-27-2013, 06:12 PM
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Take Vanek away from hogson for one game and the kid can't do anything. -2!!

I think my earlier points about hogsons' career proved correct.



What an angled shot!

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Cool the jets just a little. A 2 game sample size doesn't "prove" anything, though he's admittedly playing well.
And didn't Cody basically lose a full year to injury? Because that would realistically put them at about the same spot development-wise despite the age difference. Doesn't necessarily mean much since power forward types are often later bloomers, but it does seem a little unfair to say Hodgson has an extra year of development/experience when really he doesn't.
Notice the words "so far".

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Take Vanek away from hogson for one game and the kid can't do anything. -2!!

I think my earlier points about hogsons' career proved correct.



What an angled shot!
Small sample size

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Take Vanek away from hogson for one game and the kid can't do anything. -2!!


Guess that means Pominville sucks too.
Also, don't remember the 2nd goal against Cody was on for, but the first one was 1000% on Leopold, not even pretending to cover anyone.

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01-27-2013, 06:27 PM
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Take Vanek away from hogson for one game and the kid can't do anything. -2!!

I think my earlier points about hogsons' career proved correct.



What an angled shot!
Lol Whatever helps you sleep at night big boy.

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Yeah he definitely needs Vaneks' help! Good one!

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Steve, you're trying too hard. If you're actually a Canucks fan, you shame Burrows with your poor antagonistic abilities.

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Hodgson vs. Kassian

To date, which team has gotten the better player?

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Hodgson still for now but I take Kassian long-term and that's coming from an Oilers fan.

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