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07-25-2011, 06:10 PM
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What do you guys think of Eric Brewer?

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I think he is a fair and just defenseman.

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What do you guys think of Eric Brewer?
A great solid defensemen. Not a guy to build a franchise around, but a top pairing guy none the less. Been nothing but happy with the guy.

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Solid top-2 defenseman, useful in every situation (D-zone, O-zone, PP, PK), big but mobile, physical but a good passer too. Very happy we have him.

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I think his skill level is that of a very solid second pairing guy, but due to our weakness on the blueline he was put into the role of a #1. He is a well rounded player who I am glad to have back with the team, although I don't think he can sustain such solid play for another season if he's consistently paired with a liability, which is pretty much everyone but Hedman.

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He was what I expected and I'm happy he re-signed.

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He was and is exactly what this team needed and needs. Im very happy to have him and he took a nice discount too

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Didn't know much about Brewer when we got him, don't show many Blues games in Tampa. He has been the best addition to this team Yzerman has made, in my opinion . Roli was a huge pick up and he has done nothing but exceeded my expectations, however he's signed to a 1-year contract and is 41 (turns 42 right around the start of the year) so that's why I'd say Brewer has been the best. Brewer really solidified our defense game-by-game as the season and playoffs progressed. He wasn't my first choice to work on the first unit of our power play, but he did play well most of the time. He was very physical around the net and would really calm things down around Roli when it got rough. He will be a member of this team hopefully for the next four years and doesn't have a big contract. I watched Game 7 last night and there was one play where Kunitz was wacking away at Roli as the whistle blew and after the whistle. Brewer came flying into the crease throwing blows with his right hand at Kunitz and knocked him down and into the ice. Overall, I am thrilled we acquired him last year for the run.

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He's a clear the crease defenseman that we sorely needed last year. Like mentioned above, he's fully capable of playing in all situations. Takes the load off of Hedman some, allowing Hedman to develop at a better pace which is probably one the more underrated benefits of having Brewer.

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While I echo all the positives already posted, I'll also admit to a hefty fear of him missing significant time due to injury. It didn't bite us in the short term from the deadline through the playoffs, but will surely take a toll sometime over the 4 years he's signed here.

He's good enough that we'll probably be in trouble defensively any time we've got to get by without him.

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I like his play, gritty and decisive. With our D being one of the weaknesses and it's not the positioning or lack of gap control, we are very easy to be pushed around in the slot and net area, he brings the necessary physical play as well as a good skill level that makes a difference.

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I like his play, gritty and decisive. With our D being one of the weaknesses and it's not the positioning or lack of gap control, we are very easy to be pushed around in the slot and net area, he brings the necessary physical play as well as a good skill level that makes a difference.
You're talking about our other defensemen here, correct?

Either way, I disagree.

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a good man and a good hockey player, very happy to have him back

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07-27-2011, 09:31 AM
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You're talking about our other defensemen here, correct?

Either way, I disagree.
Players like Bergeron, clark and Lundin left alot to be desired in front of the net last yr. Kubina and Ohlund have seen better days at the physical end and Hedman never was a physical player. Brewer is the only one that has a presence in front of our net on a consistent basis. For the majority of teams this poses no big deal but with teams like the Bruins, Pitt, Philly and Wash that like to crash the net. We struggle against that style. And when we collapse, our forwards are not physically agressive enough that the opposing team pays the price per se.

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Players like Bergeron, clark and Lundin left alot to be desired in front of the net last yr. Kubina and Ohlund have seen better days at the physical end and Hedman never was a physical player. Brewer is the only one that has a presence in front of our net on a consistent basis. For the majority of teams this poses no big deal but with teams like the Bruins, Pitt, Philly and Wash that like to crash the net. We struggle against that style. And when we collapse, our forwards are not physically agressive enough that the opposing team pays the price per se.
I agree with this.

Kubina and Ohlund are crap around the crease, especially for their size. Hedman tends to get a little feisty with guys after the whistle, but he plays a ridiculously soft game as well. We saw it too many times last season where opposing players would get multiple chances right around the net on rebounds, and this is because our defense was usually scrambling around looking for the puck instead of clearing the crease.

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Best acquisition at or near the trade deal by any one.

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Hedman hits

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Hedman hits
Not very often though.

Physicality is a way of defending the net, and getting penalties. What difference does it make whether a d-man pokechecks or hits the guy, if he's taken off the puck? They lose their structure if they step up on the shooter too often.

The Lightning have also tended to draw the scorn of league officials anytime they get proactive. Ohlund being a prime example of some BS penalties called.

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Players like Bergeron, clark and Lundin left alot to be desired in front of the net last yr. Kubina and Ohlund have seen better days at the physical end and Hedman never was a physical player. Brewer is the only one that has a presence in front of our net on a consistent basis. For the majority of teams this poses no big deal but with teams like the Bruins, Pitt, Philly and Wash that like to crash the net. We struggle against that style. And when we collapse, our forwards are not physically agressive enough that the opposing team pays the price per se.
All of which are very good teams, but I don't see your point.

Washington got swept, and we came within one goal of putting the Bruins away.

We did not meet the Flyers in the playoffs, but the season series between the two was:
TB 3-2
TB 8-7
TB 4-0
PHI 4-3(SO)

so I don't see a particular problem against them either. I think our defense (overall) is physical enough.

On your point about our forwards not being overly aggro, if they're not, what is left for the defensemen to do once they're beaten, other than to block the shot or pass? As I said, if our D step up on the guy, they leave their spot open for quick passing if they don't manage to take possession.


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Our D simply didn't go a very good job of clearing the crease, which is especially sad because we have several big bodies back there. Our physicality is fairly poor in general, and I'd like to see some guys step it up in that regard next season. I agree with the poster who said we don't make people pay the price enough. We need to be more agressive both with and without the puck, and it can be done without ruining the structure.

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I think his skill level is that of a very solid second pairing guy, but due to our weakness on the blueline he was put into the role of a #1. He is a well rounded player who I am glad to have back with the team, although I don't think he can sustain such solid play for another season if he's consistently paired with a liability, which is pretty much everyone but Hedman.
As a Blues fan that saw Brewer for several years, this is probably the best assessment of Eric Brewer in this thread.

Eric was injured much of his time in St. Louis, dealing with a nerve issue in his back. This past season was the best he looked in a Blues uniform. Add in the firepower of the Bolts, and his downsides (mental mistakes, etc.) won't be as glaring as they were in St. Louis during our lean years. Add in that you didn't trade Pronger for him, and things are good.

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Garbage. I dont get how people think hes good. If you watched him late in the season and in the playoffs he couldnt make a breakout pass let alone a regular pass, and he cant shoot. Probably has leadership skills but thats why we got Marty and Vinny.

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Garbage. I dont get how people think hes good. If you watched him late in the season and in the playoffs he couldnt make a breakout pass let alone a regular pass, and he cant shoot. Probably has leadership skills but thats why we got Marty and Vinny.
He said Brewer, not Ohlund.

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Garbage. I dont get how people think hes good. If you watched him late in the season and in the playoffs he couldnt make a breakout pass let alone a regular pass, and he cant shoot. Probably has leadership skills but thats why we got Marty and Vinny.
WE have Marty and Vinny, you have Connolly and Kadri!

This is the same Leafs fan that proposed this:


Ryan Ellis
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TBL.com video on Brewer: http://video.lightning.nhl.com/video...=791&id=121739

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How about that Eric Brewer

Having a heck of a season so far, great game tonight! Do you think he leads Lightning D in points by the season end?

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