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01-27-2013, 08:32 PM
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Damn it would have been nice for Ovi to hit that open net. Not just for those that bet the over and caps -1.5. Not just to see how quickly a thread on the mains get started about padding his stats.

But now we have to wait the next game to test the floodgate theory.

In past years, he would risk the icing and whip it into net, and rarely miss. You can see Hunter got to him a little, he skated across center, but then probably thought about it too much and missed.

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01-27-2013, 09:46 PM
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01-27-2013, 09:49 PM
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01-27-2013, 09:59 PM
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Hey guys- just two quick questions for you:

Did Filip Forsberg attend the Caps' training camp?

What is he (FF) doing this year?

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01-27-2013, 10:26 PM
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Hey guys- just two quick questions for you:

Did Filip Forsberg attend the Caps' training camp?

What is he (FF) doing this year?

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No to training camp (did come over for summer development camp). He's playing with Leksands in the Allsvenskan.

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No to training camp (did come over for summer development camp). He's playing with Leksands in the Allsvenskan.
Cool. Thanks for the response!

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01-28-2013, 12:38 AM
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Cool. Thanks for the response!

Cheers.
I spit supa hot fire, but i'm not a rapper. Lol.

But yeah forsberg should be over next year.

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01-28-2013, 08:00 AM
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I spit supa hot fire, but i'm not a rapper. Lol.

But yeah forsberg should be over next year.

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01-28-2013, 08:41 AM
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He had 46 points last year as a 22 year old.
I agree. He's just a kid going through a rough stretch. It would be reactionary to give up on him just yet.

Love Erskine in the lineup.

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01-28-2013, 08:45 AM
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I agree. He's just a kid going through a rough stretch. It would be reactionary to give up on him just yet.

Love Erskine in the lineup.
Another game like that from Erskine, we might just see "Value of John Erskine" thread on the trade board. Who'da thunk it.

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01-28-2013, 08:50 AM
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Another game like that from Erskine, we might just see "Value of John Erskine" thread on the trade board. Who'da thunk it.
I'm glad he scored b/c that is a visible thing and will lead to him sticking in the lineup longer.

I've said many times that Erskine provides a quality that no other dman on our roster does and that he needs to be in. He has flaws for sure but his physical presence alone bolsters the lineup.

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01-28-2013, 09:04 AM
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I'm glad he scored b/c that is a visible thing and will lead to him sticking in the lineup longer.

I've said many times that Erskine provides a quality that no other dman on our roster does and that he needs to be in. He has flaws for sure but his physical presence alone bolsters the lineup.
the problem is his 3rd pair quality level and his lack of mobility. right now he fits because carlson is in the doghouse. as i recall the caps first goal against was a result of a carlson/erskine goof. erskine isnt really capable of playing 2nd pair/1st pair minutes.

he needs orlov to return. erskine and schultz are just too slow to play together or erskine and hamrlik or erskine and poti

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01-28-2013, 09:09 AM
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the problem is his 3rd pair quality level and his lack of mobility. right now he fits because carlson is in the doghouse. as i recall the caps first goal against was a result of a carlson/erskine goof. erskine isnt really capable of playing 2nd pair/1st pair minutes.

he needs orlov to return. erskine and schultz are just too slow to play together or erskine and hamrlik or erskine and poti
Mistakes happen. Erskine hasn't played consistently in over a year or ever since Hunter took over at least.

Again...Erskine, despite being slow, adds value to the overall mix b/c he brings something we don't have. Angry crease clearing ability, willingness to smash people and provides a real enforcer presence that Hendricks just can't duplicate.

Schultz played well yesterday too. Who cares if they are slow as long as they play well. We got 4 other guys who can skate very well.

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01-28-2013, 09:12 AM
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Just because he plays physical does not mean he belongs on the second pair.

If you have a defenseman that can hit and be physical yet can't handle the minutes and is already playing with a player in a slump or who plays low defensively, you're going to have issues.

If both Erskine/Carlson can't play defense, it's useless. I could care less if both hit every guy out of the crease.

Get Orlov back.

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01-28-2013, 09:13 AM
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I'm in favor of dropping Schultz out of the line-up for Poti, but Erskine has earned his right to stay. Haven't really noticed him laying the hammer or clearing the crease much, but he's doing a very solid job boxing guys out and isn't afraid to play the body in open ice.

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01-28-2013, 09:20 AM
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schultz actually looked more mobile than usual. maybe it was an optical allusion. anyway, the reason you should care if they are both slow is playing together they are too slow. they dont cover enough ice. having erskine with carlson and schultz with kundy provides both slow skaters with a swift skater for covering ground and chasing pucks. schultz and erskine together just seed that ground and those loose pucks to the opposition. like them or not.

i have nothing against erskine. he does provide something the others dont. he's still slow and requires a partner that is not. right now, schultz, poti and hamrlik are no quicker than erskine

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01-28-2013, 09:24 AM
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I have no trouble with Erskine on the third pairing. I'd prefer someone else over Schultz though. And I'm a little surprised Poti is sitting. I'm not surprised Hamrlik is sitting but don't feel he has had much of a chance at the second pairing especially given his performance in the playoffs with Green.

If the goaltender has a mediocre night I still think the Caps are toast with this group of D playing ATM. Neuvirth bailed them out against NJ with goaltending that didn't exist the first few games. And Erskine gifted Kovalchuk the puck that almost ended that game without a point at all.

I forgot that Buffalo lost Gaustad. And of course they were missing their top scorer. Need a better sample size of wins hopefully to find out what's what. LOL

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01-28-2013, 09:27 AM
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Im not that surprised Poti is sitting...when the team has looked much better with him and Hammer on the bench.

Play whatever works.

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01-28-2013, 09:27 AM
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Erskine brings his same game when he gets the chance. While he may not be a perfect partner for a struggling Carlson right now, at least you can see him trying to cover for the kid, always hustling, always team first. Carlson needs more a steady eddie now, than a wild mountain man.

Summon Tom Poti. Sarge 10 minutes TOI, he can sit.

Alzner Green | Poti Carlson | Erskine/Hamrlik Kundratek

George clearly likes Kundratek. Who knew he would be a regular, despite his obvious preference for handedness. Maybe Hillen was our best offside D man, and George had seen enough of the in house LD at RD to try anyone else. But I think Poti and Sarge can hang at RD if we have to throw a louie over there.

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01-28-2013, 09:32 AM
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schultz actually looked more mobile than usual. maybe it was an optical allusion. anyway, the reason you should care if they are both slow is playing together they are too slow. they dont cover enough ice. having erskine with carlson and schultz with kundy provides both slow skaters with a swift skater for covering ground and chasing pucks. schultz and erskine together just seed that ground and those loose pucks to the opposition. like them or not.

i have nothing against erskine. he does provide something the others dont. he's still slow and requires a partner that is not. right now, schultz, poti and hamrlik are no quicker than erskine
No I don't want them together but that doesn't mean Erskine in the top 4< Other combos we can have.

Long have I lobbied for a physical top 4 dman. George has NEVER brought one in. Ever. 15 years. He never replaced Tinordi. Heck he never even replace Witt!

Gotta work with what you got. We need a physical presence in the top 4 or at least in the top 6.

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01-28-2013, 09:35 AM
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Erskine brings his same game when he gets the chance. While he may not be a perfect partner for a struggling Carlson right now, at least you can see him trying to cover for the kid, always hustling, always team first. Carlson needs more a steady eddie now, than a wild mountain man.

Summon Tom Poti. Sarge 10 minutes TOI, he can sit.

Alzner Green | Poti Carlson | Erskine/Hamrlik Kundratek

George clearly likes Kundratek. Who knew he would be a regular, despite his obvious preference for handedness. Maybe Hillen was our best offside D man, and George had seen enough of the in house LD at RD to try anyone else. But I think Poti and Sarge can hang at RD if we have to throw a louie over there.
This is fine just not Ersk on the 2nd pair anymore. Bad idea in my mind haha.

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01-28-2013, 09:39 AM
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Erskine brings his same game when he gets the chance. While he may not be a perfect partner for a struggling Carlson right now, at least you can see him trying to cover for the kid, always hustling, always team first. Carlson needs more a steady eddie now, than a wild mountain man.

Summon Tom Poti. Sarge 10 minutes TOI, he can sit.

Alzner Green | Poti Carlson | Erskine/Hamrlik Kundratek

George clearly likes Kundratek. Who knew he would be a regular, despite his obvious preference for handedness. Maybe Hillen was our best offside D man, and George had seen enough of the in house LD at RD to try anyone else. But I think Poti and Sarge can hang at RD if we have to throw a louie over there.
Oates tried Poti, Hamrlik and Schultz on the right against Tampa Bay. I think that's the main reason Kundratek is here. And with all due respect to the young Czech he's held is own. I would give Poti and Hamrlik more of a chance at RD than Schultz. And Hamrlik I don't like there.

Don't know if this true but from fanatical Hershey fans the rumor is Schultz is being shopped. I have to believe one or two or three of the LD's are being shopped.

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01-28-2013, 09:48 AM
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Oates had a revolving door of dmen vs Tampa, rotating 7 D - they all looked lost. Minuscule sample size.

I was just thinking the same Swim in this shortened season, I want George to consider moving a LD if Poti is healthy. Losing Hillen puts a damper on that happening obviously, but we are still deep.

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Schilling

Hillen

If Orlov is not back by the deadline, I fully expect GM to panic and add another RH shot Dman regardless of how well Kundratek does. Jurcina Class.

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01-28-2013, 09:55 AM
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What is Orlov's injury?

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01-28-2013, 10:00 AM
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What is Orlov's injury?
They're being awfully quiet about it and they're calling it an upper body injury and it's lasted nearly two months.

There's no official word but I know what my guess is.

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