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01-26-2013, 08:57 AM
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There IS one option we haven't discussed here yet. Vancouver trades Lu to Columbus, but eats half his salary. Perhaps Luongo would want to be reunited with his old goalie coach?

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I think Steve Mason can be a star in the NHL someday.. but he needs a change of scenery and so do we. Our team does not play with confidence in front of him. they did not show the effort they showed with Bob in net.

If we could trade Mason and a contract for Lou, mgmt will have to consider it.

A combo of Lou & Bob is likely to be pretty good goal tending, and we need that to win.
Absolutely disagree. Mason sucks, but we only have this shortened season left to deal with him. If we trade for Luongo and he continues to decline we're on the hook for a much longer term. We need to just take our lumps this year and be in the clear this offseason.

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There IS one option we haven't discussed here yet. Vancouver trades Lu to Columbus, but eats half his salary. Perhaps Luongo would want to be reunited with his old goalie coach?
Could work but bottom line is I don't think Lu wants to come here. And as a side note, if the Nucks would eat half his salary, I'm sure other teams could offer more in terms of a player(s). But a half price Lu would give the youngins' time to develop.

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I'd rather see us play out the season, see what we have in Bob.

If we determine Bob's not the guy, look to sign a UFA goalie at an affordable price.

There are some decent UFA options this summer.

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There IS one option we haven't discussed here yet. Vancouver trades Lu to Columbus, but eats half his salary. Perhaps Luongo would want to be reunited with his old goalie coach?
They could pay his entire salary and I wouldn't want him. How does he help us? He doesn't make us good enough to make the playoffs. All he is does is maybe help us get a few more points and maybe keep us from getting a top 4 draft pick.


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They could pay his entire salary and I wouldn't want him. How does he help us? He doesn't make us good enough to make the playoffs. All he is does is maybe helps us get a few more points and maybe keep us from getting a top 4 draft pick.
and make a loss look like a closer game(instead of 4-0, maybe it's 2-0, etc). I think the team needs to address it's scoring first imo. If we had any scoring ability, I wouldn't mind Luongo(which is funny because I hated him in Florida and hated him even more on the Canucks).

Also, in the new CBA, can you eat part of the contract?

Was this rumoured confirmed by anyone? As in, did anyone else also hear this on the radio.

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and make a loss look like a closer game(instead of 4-0, maybe it's 2-0, etc). I think the team needs to address it's scoring first imo. If we had any scoring ability, I wouldn't mind Luongo(which is funny because I hated him in Florida and hated him even more on the Canucks).

Also, in the new CBA, can you eat part of the contract?



Was this rumoured confirmed by anyone? As in, did anyone else also hear this on the radio.

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In the context of Player Trades, participating Clubs will be permitted to allocate the AA and related Salary and Bonus payment obligations between them, subject to specified parameters (“Retained Salary Transaction”). Specifically, the Club trading a Player may agree to retain a percentage of the SPC’s AA and related Salary and Bonus obligations for each of the remaining years of the Player’s SPC, up to 50% of the SPC’s AA. In each Retained Salary Transaction, the percentage allocation of the retained AA and retained Salary and Bonuses must be the same (i.e., the Salary and Bonus obligations as between Clubs would be allocated on the same percentage basis as the AA being allocated) and cannot be altered from year to year. So, for instance, if an assigning Club agrees to retain 30% of an SPC’s AA over the balance of its term, it will also retain an obligation to reimburse the acquiring Club 30% of the Player’s contractual compensation (Salary and Bonuses) in each of the remaining years of the contract. A Club may have up to a maximum of three (3) SPCs on its Cap per League Year as to which a portion of the AA and Salary have been retained in a Player
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They could pay his entire salary and I wouldn't want him. How does he help us? He doesn't make us good enough to make the playoffs. All he is does is maybe helps us get a few more points and maybe keep us from getting a top 4 draft pick.
You build (brick by brick) from the net out. We can't improve the goaltending immediately through the draft - that would take about four years. So we either do it by trade or free agency.

Candidly, I'm luke warm on Luongo - even if he WANTED to come here. But I also think it's possible we could do WORSE in free agency.

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and make a loss look like a closer game(instead of 4-0, maybe it's 2-0, etc). I think the team needs to address it's scoring first imo. If we had any scoring ability, I wouldn't mind Luongo(which is funny because I hated him in Florida and hated him even more on the Canucks).

Also, in the new CBA, can you eat part of the contract?

Was this rumoured confirmed by anyone? As in, did anyone else also hear this on the radio.
Pete Weber from Nashville continues to beat this drum.

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You build (brick by brick) from the net out. We can't improve the goaltending immediately through the draft - that would take about four years. So we either do it by trade or free agency.

Candidly, I'm luke warm on Luongo - even if he WANTED to come here. But I also think it's possible we could do WORSE in free agency.
True, but Luongo isn't the answer, IMO. I just see no reason to trade for him.

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You build (brick by brick) from the net out. We can't improve the goaltending immediately through the draft - that would take about four years. So we either do it by trade or free agency.

Candidly, I'm luke warm on Luongo - even if he WANTED to come here. But I also think it's possible we could do WORSE in free agency.
There's a reason we drafted goaltenders back to back last draft. There's no need to trade for Lu. Averaging 40 shots against is a offense/defense problem. You keep it down to 20-30 shots from the perimeter and we'll have all star caliber goaltending Jones, Shinkaruk Erne. If we could manage those 3 we'd be in a helluva position next year.

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What??? Luongo to Columbus??? Say it ain't so!!! (Rumor)

OK

It ain't so!

Hearing that Washington is that other team in the mix, not the CBJ.

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OK

It ain't so!

Hearing that Washington is that other team in the mix, not the CBJ.
That'd be huge for the Caps

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We'd be foolish to bring in another albatross contract into this situation until its more fully sorted out. JD inherited everyone in the organization, give him a year or two for some shoes to drop before we go all in on something like this, let some bricks be laided by JD himself within the organization before we go out and take a leap here. The Years involved are just too much right now.

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We'd be foolish to bring in another albatross contract into this situation until its more fully sorted out. JD inherited everyone in the organization, give him a year or two for some shoes to drop before we go all in on something like this, let some bricks be laided by JD himself within the organization before we go out and take a leap here. The Years involved are just too much right now.
I agree with this, but I do expect the first brick to be a goaltender.

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