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01-28-2013, 09:36 AM
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Behind Rafalski, Paul Martin may have been the 2nd best D-man we've had since the 04 lockout.
And that's why we sucked in the playoffs for quite a few years.

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lol at trading Greene

and his "penalty" didnt cost them the game at all, they were lucky to be there in the first place
anyone one that wants andy greene traded is asking for this team to be much worse...Andy Greene is our best defensmen. unless we are getting back a stud forward i want to hear none of andy greene being traded.

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01-28-2013, 09:49 AM
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anyone one that wants andy greene traded is asking for this team to be much worse...Andy Greene is our best defensmen. unless we are getting back a stud forward i want to hear none of andy greene being traded.
I agree but the fact that Greene is considered our best defenseman is a big problem we need a true #1 which I firmly believe is Larsson in the future hence why I think he needs to play.

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I feel like I'm one of the few people who doesn't think anything is wrong with our D which is baffling considering this group took us to the finals last year.

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I rarely have issue with the Cangy Man's PBB for our games, I think he does a good job overall.

But I think he butchered the call on Patty's deflection goal last night.
It was not weird or odd, it was actually a skillful deflection that he intended to do to score.

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01-28-2013, 10:06 AM
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I feel like I'm one of the few people who doesn't think anything is wrong with our D which is baffling considering this group took us to the finals last year.
i really dont have an issue with the d more than i do the offense. losing parise really threw everything outta whack. not having henrique out there is a pain too. then theres rotating tweeners and goons that need ice time. outside of the staple players, its a dartboard. i want to see larsson play but nobody has really sucked enough to get a still inexperienced for the most part player in the lineup. marty has been the best player so far. thankfully. once henrique comes back, and parises production is at least attempted to be replaced by an outside source, i think were set for the duration and could still go far.

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Behind Rafalski, Paul Martin may have been the 2nd best D-man we've had since the 04 lockout.
Andy Greene > Paul Martin

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Andy Greene > Paul Martin
I'll have to disagree and say Brittle Ginger is better than Greene in all aspects of the game.

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Behind Rafalski, Paul Martin may have been the 2nd best D-man we've had since the 04 lockout.
This actually has me curious. Are we talking about best career, or best tenure with New Jersey?

1. Brian Rafalski
2. Andy Greene
3. Paul Martin
4. Marek Zidlicky
5. Mark Fayne
6. Bryce Salvador
7. Colin White
8. Henrik Tallinder
9. Adam Larsson
10. Johnny Oduya
11. Anton Volchenkov
12. Mike Mottau
13. Brad Lukowich
14. Peter Harrold
15. Anssi Salmela

HM: Richard Matvichuk, Matt Taormina, Nic Havelid, Martin Skoula, Karel Rachunek, Vitaly Vishnevsky

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i really dont have an issue with the d more than i do the offense. losing parise really threw everything outta whack. not having henrique out there is a pain too. then theres rotating tweeners and goons that need ice time. outside of the staple players, its a dartboard. i want to see larsson play but nobody has really sucked enough to get a still inexperienced for the most part player in the lineup. marty has been the best player so far. thankfully. once henrique comes back, and parises production is at least attempted to be replaced by an outside source, i think were set for the duration and could still go far.
Yea right now if a top 6 guy like Henrique goes down we're screwed because no one in the bottom 6 can be trusted on the top 2 lines. Josefson can play up there but then we have no centers to fill in for him. We at least need a reliable 3rd liner who can play in the top 6 if someone is injured.

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This actually has me curious. Are we talking about best career, or best tenure with New Jersey?

1. Brian Rafalski
2. Andy Greene
3. Paul Martin
4. Marek Zidlicky
5. Mark Fayne
6. Bryce Salvador
7. Colin White
8. Henrik Tallinder
9. Adam Larsson
10. Johnny Oduya
11. Anton Volchenkov
12. Mike Mottau
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14. Peter Harrold
15. Anssi Salmela

HM: Richard Matvichuk, Matt Taormina, Nic Havelid, Martin Skoula, Karel Rachunek, Vitaly Vishnevsky

Yikes.
NJ tenure. How players do when the leave/before they come to NJ isn't relevant. Paul Martin, while a Devil, was better than Greene. That's not a knock on Greene at all. Martin was phenomenal when he was here. The Paul Martin of NJ got paid and is worth 5 mil per season. The Paul Martin of Pittsburg is not worth that 5 mil.

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01-28-2013, 11:24 AM
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NJ tenure. How players do when the leave/before they come to NJ isn't relevant. Paul Martin, while a Devil, was better than Greene. That's not a knock on Greene at all. Martin was phenomenal when he was here. The Paul Martin of NJ got paid and is worth 5 mil per season. The Paul Martin of Pittsburg is not worth that 5 mil.
Just a FYI, he started this season on a high note.

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So a guy who reached more than 35pts once in his career (even prior to the Pens), played good defense and blocked shots is worth $5m? Martin was a nice player for us but him being among the best defensemen for us post-lockout doesn't say much at all

We used that $5m better elsewhere

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I thought Matvichuk was pretty good, then he disappeared off the face of the Earth

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anyone one that wants andy greene traded is asking for this team to be much worse...Andy Greene is our best defensmen. unless we are getting back a stud forward i want to hear none of andy greene being traded.
I highly doubt that.

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NJ tenure. How players do when the leave/before they come to NJ isn't relevant. Paul Martin, while a Devil, was better than Greene. That's not a knock on Greene at all. Martin was phenomenal when he was here. The Paul Martin of NJ got paid and is worth 5 mil per season. The Paul Martin of Pittsburg is not worth that 5 mil.
He never showed up when it counted as in the playoffs and was a soft player in general.

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I thought Matvichuk was pretty good, then he disappeared off the face of the Earth
I agree #BrentSutterRuinsEverything

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NJ tenure. How players do when the leave/before they come to NJ isn't relevant. Paul Martin, while a Devil, was better than Greene. That's not a knock on Greene at all. Martin was phenomenal when he was here. The Paul Martin of NJ got paid and is worth 5 mil per season. The Paul Martin of Pittsburg is not worth that 5 mil.
The problem with Martin was that he was supposed to be our big minutes workhorse, but was made out of glass. So when he was in we had to squeeze as many minutes out of him as we could. Greene is a much smarter defenseman that relies on positioning, while Matins reach and athleticism made him a good defenseman.

The other thing is that Greene can still produce points while playing a shutdown role, something that was very hit or miss with Martin. Sometimes he'd go pointless for 15 games, other times he'd carry the puck like Bobby Orr.

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last night's game still pisses me off for some reason! IDK why we didn't play that great and it's just our first loss(we even got a point). But that call! I dont even blame the ref for calling it. That diving POS, never liked Cole

When do we play Montreal again? I wanna beat them by like 5!

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Paul Martin holds a high school football record in Minnesota for most career receptions. More than Larry Fitzgerald had in the same state.

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Paul Martin holds a high school football record in Minnesota for most career receptions. More than Larry Fitzgerald had in the same state.
He was definitely the best pure athlete we've had on the team in a long while at any position.

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that call at the end was brutal
disagree. upon looking at the replay, it was a good call. strange to call that one with 1 minute left in OT, but thems the breaks.

our record is not at all indicative of our play. im hoping its rust, but im scared its not. it certainly doesnt help that parise is tearing **** up in minnesota.

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