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01-28-2013, 02:37 PM
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2012 - 5th overall
2011 - 10th overall
2010 - 2nd overall
2009 - 7th overall
2008 - 5th overall

Um Haven't they already rebuilt?
Kadri and Reilly is hardly a rebuild.

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01-28-2013, 02:44 PM
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Kadri and Reilly is hardly a rebuild.
Yes but that is there finishes. They made some bad picks and could have traded for good picks but failed.

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01-28-2013, 02:49 PM
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Yes but that is there finishes. They made some bad picks and could have traded for good picks but failed.
Thanks for making my point!

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01-28-2013, 02:51 PM
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I almost feel bad for leaf fans. Almost!

The trade that probably set them back the most is the Rask/Raycroft deal.They may have made the playoffs the last couple years with an actual goalie.

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01-28-2013, 02:51 PM
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They should blow it up. Most of their good players could be traded for great young prospects and or first rd picks. Even if you manage to sell away Kessel, Phaneuf, Lupul, Grabovski, MacArthur for a first or a first plus...that gives five extra first rd picks in his draft. With a little bit of patience and proper development the Leafs will be a powerful team again.

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01-28-2013, 02:51 PM
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Blow what up?

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01-28-2013, 02:53 PM
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If I'm them I try moving Kessel to a team like Phoenix for a package around Gormley plus 1st or Anaheim for something around Palmieri and Holland.

Then you can send Phaneuf to the Islanders for a package around Nino.

I believe that both the Leafs and Flames need to blow it up this year, the flames though cannot waste another year by not trading away Iginla, Kiprusoff etc..

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01-28-2013, 02:56 PM
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No we have a good team. We just lack some key pieces blowing it up won't bring a better team.

Maybe quietly tank one year without trading any core pieces

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01-28-2013, 03:03 PM
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No we have a good team. We just lack some key pieces blowing it up won't bring a better team.

Maybe quietly tank one year without trading any core pieces
No we don't.

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01-28-2013, 03:04 PM
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Blow what up?
Beat me to it

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01-28-2013, 03:05 PM
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No we have a good team. We just lack some key pieces blowing it up won't bring a better team.

Maybe quietly tank one year without trading any core pieces
This core has done nothing for us in the past 3 years.
Are you implying that the Leafs are 1 player away from being a good team? This team should "quietly" tank for 3-5 years and sell off some pieces for picks.

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01-28-2013, 03:13 PM
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I think that they should let this season tank.
Trade Kessel for a Roster player, a good prospect, and a mid-round 1st.
Keep Phaneuf.
If there's anyone else (not named Gardiner, JVR, or Rielly) that can get you a mid-to-high 1st round pick for next year, you make that trade.
This would be a great draft to try and get a lot of picks for.

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01-28-2013, 03:21 PM
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I don't know about blowing it up but significant changes look to be in order. First of all they still need to invest more time in evaluating the roster under Carlyles tutelage. Some of the players i'm sure will come around but there will be others that choose not to and they must be moved out. Theres insufficient talent to have any success without following a script. The current country club atmosphere has to be changed. I'm sick and tired of watching them give up, its not acceptable. I could give a rats you know what about anyone on this team if they're not willing to man up and play hard as a Toronto Maple Leaf. Theres not a single player that should be untouchable if they won't play with heart.

Fit in or.................

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01-28-2013, 03:23 PM
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At this point, blow it up. I don't care anymore, I just want a winning team and or a bright future. Right now we have neither.

Trade Phaneuf for A few young players
Trade Kessel for Picks
Trade Kulemin for Picks and a young player
Trade Franson for Picks/Young Players

Buy out Komi

Sign a couple of quality veteran free agents that will do good in mentoring young players

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Let the young kids play and develop!

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01-28-2013, 03:23 PM
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Are the Leafs really that down on their team?

I watched 3 games this year and I didn't think they looked that bad. Honestly if you did add Loungo I honestly think you'd be in contentions for the playoffs, with a better chance of making it than not.

While Loungo gets a lot of underserved hate, he'd be worth it imo. His contract is pretty bad, but it's by no means a deal breaker.

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01-28-2013, 03:26 PM
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2012 - 5th overall
2011 - 9th overall
2010 - 2nd overall

2009 - 7th overall
2008 - 5th overall

Um Haven't they already rebuilt?
Property of the Bruins in exchange for Kessel. (And a 2nd rounder too)

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01-28-2013, 03:39 PM
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2012 - 5th overall
2011 - Hamilton
2010 - Seguin

2009 - 7th overall
2008 - 5th overall

Um Haven't they already rebuilt?
It's easy to build with players you don't have.

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01-28-2013, 03:42 PM
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Are the Leafs really that down on their team?

I watched 3 games this year and I didn't think they looked that bad. Honestly if you did add Loungo I honestly think you'd be in contentions for the playoffs, with a better chance of making it than not.

While Loungo gets a lot of underserved hate, he'd be worth it imo. His contract is pretty bad, but it's by no means a deal breaker.
Ever see the movie groundhog day? I've been watching it for 8 straight years. Time to change channels.

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01-28-2013, 03:53 PM
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Are the Leafs really that down on their team?

I watched 3 games this year and I didn't think they looked that bad. Honestly if you did add Loungo I honestly think you'd be in contentions for the playoffs, with a better chance of making it than not.

While Loungo gets a lot of underserved hate, he'd be worth it imo. His contract is pretty bad, but it's by no means a deal breaker.
The Leafs are home of the most bi-polar fanbase in all of sports AND they have a mass media who subscribes to the same knee-jerk philosophy AND they have countless haters who come in flocks after each loss to join in as well.

The Leafs are the 2nd youngest team in the NHL, who were predicted by pretty much any credible hockey analyst to finish comfortably outside of the playoffs. 5 games into the season, the Leafs have a 2-3 a record that puts them 21st leaguewide and is shared by the likes of Buffalo and NYR and better than LA, Washington, Philadelphia.

Why is it this is the only fanbase that yells "THE SKY IS FALLING" after each loss? It's sad because we expect to lose -- but then overreact to losing. It doesn't even make any logical sense.

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01-28-2013, 03:55 PM
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They were tied for the youngest team in the league to start the season... why would you blow up a team that young just to become even younger? Guys like Phaneuf and Kessel can still be there even after a full rebuild has taken place

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01-28-2013, 03:58 PM
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Yep. They need to blow it up one more time.

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They were tied for the youngest team in the league to start the season... why would you blow up a team that young just to become even younger? Guys like Phaneuf and Kessel can still be there even after a full rebuild has taken place
The issue is will we be bad enough with them?

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01-28-2013, 04:00 PM
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the leafs have like 2 regulars older than age 27.

blowup what?

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They were tied for the youngest team in the league to start the season... why would you blow up a team that young just to become even younger? Guys like Phaneuf and Kessel can still be there even after a full rebuild has taken place
I think to some people, a rebuild is getting rid of players that will prevent a rebuild from really happening, as teams, that are not trying will not have guys with high salaries such as Phaneuf or Kessel. Or in other words, high paid players that are not doing anything with the team, and can be traded for younger players for a rebuild. (draft picks, high drafted prospects). As Nonis recently signed Lupul to that contract, I don't think he's rebuilding, but just taking it one day at a time type of approach.

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I disagree with you. Bell and Rogers just spend like 80 million dollars on the Jays - No way they make 80 million more this season then last. Bell and Rogers are way more Canadian based companies then MLSE and actually care about the city of Toronto bringing in a championship more then MLSE. Not saying they are gonna spend 80 million on the leafs - because they can't, but they will be more patient if it means for the better in the long haul
...what?

People who say the Leafs need to blow it up don't know very much about the Leafs.
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Are the Leafs really that down on their team?

I watched 3 games this year and I didn't think they looked that bad. Honestly if you did add Loungo I honestly think you'd be in contentions for the playoffs, with a better chance of making it than not.

While Loungo gets a lot of underserved hate, he'd be worth it imo. His contract is pretty bad, but it's by no means a deal breaker.
Luongo would be horrible. By the time the Leafs are realistically ready to compete he'll be pretty much done. Waste of assets and we'll have to deal with that monstrosity of a contract as well. No thank you.

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