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01-28-2013, 05:08 PM
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matt doesn't have the best track record when it comes to rumors. he gets very good injury info, but trades are another story. he rates right there with all the other trade rumor mongers. personally i think most just make **** up on the fly

the only guys that carry any weight when it comes to rumors for me are Bobby Mac, leBrun, Dreger and those guys. anyone else to me is just a blogger in a basement fantasizing about his dream line-up
well this year hes not so good on the injurys ( he said kopitar would be out 6-8 weeks) maybe he ll get his trade rumours right instead lol one can hope

I have heard subban leopold and Andrej Sekera. Also talks with toronto ( franson i belive makes the most sence)

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01-28-2013, 05:10 PM
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The panel on Satellite Hotstove on CBC discussed Subban and from they've been told by other GMs, Subban is not available. Of course, it wouldn't be a first where other GMs were given false information or if talks were kept under wraps.

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01-28-2013, 05:16 PM
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FYI, this was also just tweeted to further support what the HNIC crew reported:
https://twitter.com/TSN1050Radio/sta...17619612475392
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@TSNBobMcKenzie on @Cybulskishow - "Bergevin is telling teams that he (Subban) is not available, for now."
Of course, things can change. We saw that when the Bruins shocked everyone by trading Joe Thornton and also with the Flyers when they dealt Mike Richards.

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01-28-2013, 05:40 PM
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Mike Richards would not approve
He likely wouldn't care if he was part of the package going the other way. Remember Carter is normally a center but not sure losing Richards for some-one like Subban helps the Kings. On another note, some of the Toronto press ( http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/...hil-kessel-cox ) is suggesting that Kessel be moved. Not sure I like anything Damien Cox says but geez, we're only a couple of weeks in guys!

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01-28-2013, 05:43 PM
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Penner and a 4th for Niklas Hjalmarsson..I doubt the hawks do it. Maybe before the season started but penner has already reduced his value.

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01-28-2013, 05:44 PM
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....but geez, we're only a couple of weeks in guys!
on a prorated 48day schedule...it equates to be close to a month in

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Penner and a 4th for Niklas Hjalmarsson..I doubt the hawks do it. Maybe before the season started but penner has already reduced his value.
the hawks arent changing jack squat

they havent lost a game yet

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the hawks arent changing jack squat

they havent lost a game yet
Hence the doubt the hawks do it.

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Penner and a 4th for Niklas Hjalmarsson..I doubt the hawks do it. Maybe before the season started but penner has already reduced his value.
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the hawks arent changing jack squat

they havent lost a game yet
-still not convinced on HJammer. he's still very inconsistent.
-going to take more than Penner and 4th to get him, serious lowball
-most importantly, CHI isn't going to change anything right now to change that locker room. they are rolling. talk here in CHI is about how they feel a similar vibe to 2010

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01-28-2013, 06:11 PM
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So tell me again how trading for Subban with a package that includes Voynov addresses our defensive depth or apparent lack thereof?

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01-28-2013, 06:20 PM
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So tell me again how trading for Subban with a package that includes Voynov addresses our defensive depth or apparent lack thereof?
The idea at play would be that swapping one defenseman for another defenseman who can play huge minutes ultimately decreases responsibility on the bottom pairing, thus decreasing the need for greater depth.

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01-28-2013, 06:23 PM
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Any decent vet that can picked up on the cheap would help. Like Muzzin so far and DD44 hasn't been horrid.

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He likely wouldn't care if he was part of the package going the other way. Remember Carter is normally a center but not sure losing Richards for some-one like Subban helps the Kings. On another note, some of the Toronto press ( http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/...hil-kessel-cox ) is suggesting that Kessel be moved. Not sure I like anything Damien Cox says but geez, we're only a couple of weeks in guys!
Moving Richards for Subban makes no sense, Carter is a much better RW, he's a shoot first guy, not really the type of guy you want a center to be, he's much more effective on the wing.

I'd trade Voynov for Subban in a heart beat and I love Voynov but Subban would be great, but I don't see anything being done with him involved at all.

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01-28-2013, 06:25 PM
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Subban is better than Voynov, and can anchor a 2nd pairing forever. The Kings would then have 2 lines which can come out ahead vs top opposition

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01-28-2013, 06:26 PM
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The idea at play would be that swapping one defenseman for another defenseman who can play huge minutes ultimately decreases responsibility on the bottom pairing, thus decreasing the need for greater depth.
Yah I get that I suppose but gaining a defenseman at the expense of a reliable (and Stanley Cup-winning) defenseman just seems like treading water.

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01-28-2013, 06:32 PM
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Why would the Kings make a deal...when Mitchell and Greene come back Muzzin and Drewiske will be healthy scratches along with whoever we pick up? No way we carry 3 extra D.

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01-28-2013, 06:37 PM
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Volchenkov would be nice

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01-28-2013, 06:52 PM
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Volchenkov would be nice
I dunno, he makes a lot of money for his one-dimensional game.

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01-28-2013, 06:55 PM
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matt doesn't have the best track record when it comes to rumors. he gets very good injury info, but trades are another story. he rates right there with all the other trade rumor mongers. personally i think most just make **** up on the fly

the only guys that carry any weight when it comes to rumors for me are Bobby Mac, leBrun, Dreger and those guys. anyone else to me is just a blogger in a basement fantasizing about his dream line-up
You're one of many that confuses passing along rumors with claiming they are breaking stories.

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01-28-2013, 07:20 PM
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I dunno, he makes a lot of money for his one-dimensional game.
Agreed. $4.25 million until the 2016-2017 while the cap becomes more condensed after this one is a bit worrisome. And while he's not that terribly old at age 30, he's got a lot of wear and tear on that body of his with that playing style.

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01-28-2013, 07:30 PM
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BRING BACK TIMMAY!!!

tim gleason ftw.. even if that contract is a bit bad.
Just took on Lucic and handled himself quite well.

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I like Leopold.

That said, I think people are thinking in the wrong direction for what type (if any) D player we could be looking at.

There is another solution.

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well its not subban.

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Matt Barry as a rumor source? Come now ladies and gentleman...I thought we were better than that.

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