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Jets - Free Agents, Trades, Rumors, Speculation - 2012-13 (Part XI)

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Quick recap:

Matt Duchene
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ROR

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I would NOT do that trade! But I'd do it in a second for Matt Duchene.
Should have had a pool on when that would appear.

And FWIW I wouldn't do the trade (Trouba+Burmi) for ROR or Matty.

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Grant Clitsome for Cam Barker?

I don't actually want Barker, but it'd be nice to have the 3rd (Barker), 4th (Ladd), 5th (Wheeler) and 6th (Montoya) overall picks from the 2004 draft all on our team.

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Grant Clitsome for Cam Barker?

I don't actually want Barker, but it'd be nice to have the 3rd (Barker), 4th (Ladd), 5th (Wheeler) and 6th (Montoya) overall picks from the 2004 draft all on our team.
I wouldn't mind number 1 and 2 as well.

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Should have had a pool on when that would appear.

And FWIW I wouldn't do the trade (Trouba+Burmi) for ROR or Matty.
Neither would I. Burmi is not far off of ROR. Whatever the difference is, it's not Trouba.

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I wouldn't mind number 1 and 2 as well.
Well, #2 for sure.

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Neither would I. Burmi is not far off of ROR. Whatever the difference is, it's not Trouba.
Yup. Don't see Trouba being part of any deal.

ROR is a nice player, but so is young Burmi. I'd like to see what we have in Burmi in another year or two, before we consider moving him for a 'slight upgrade' which will cost us a bit more in salary.

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Yup. Don't see Trouba being part of any deal.

ROR is a nice player, but so is young Burmi. I'd like to see what we have in Burmi in another year or two, before we consider moving him for a 'slight upgrade' which will cost us a bit more in salary.
Exactly this. Burmi is a great player and I'm pretty sure we would regret trading him.

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subban signs just in time to play jets? what a kawinky dink....

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Good deal for the habs
not even 3 per

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Would Jets trade Antopov? What's his trade value?

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Would Jets trade Antopov? What's his trade value?
Depends on where he goes. Maybe a 3rd or 2nd round pick.

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Depends on where he goes. Maybe a 3rd or 2nd round pick.
I think he's easily worth a second based on defensive value alone.

If Dominic Moore can get you a 2nd every year I think Antropov can, plus a little extra.

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After Pav's last couple of games I'm thinking it might be a good idea to inquire about Bernier. Given the kings need some defenseman would a deal based around one of Redmond or Postma and a mid round pick work?

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A)Pavs played a back to back, which is hard on anyone, nevermind a goalie.
B) He didn't receive a lot of help out there, but he hasn't been stellar.
C)Bernier isn't a tried and true starter yet. I would rather have him for a backup so he and Pavs can split starts, a'la Vancouver and St. Louis.

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I have no idea why people think Bernier is all that good.

A) I'll admit some prejudice, I'm not at all a fan of shorter (anything under 6') goaltenders.
B) His numbers really aren't all that fantastic.
C) Hasn't really played enough. Even as a backup he gets very few games and it's really hard to tell what he can bring.

I wouldn't at all be comfortable in giving up any decent assets to get him.

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I have no idea why people think Bernier is all that good.

A) I'll admit some prejudice, I'm not at all a fan of shorter (anything under 6') goaltenders.
B) His numbers really aren't all that fantastic.
C) Hasn't really played enough. Even as a backup he gets very few games and it's really hard to tell what he can bring.

I wouldn't at all be comfortable in giving up any decent assets to get him.
I am wishy washy on him.

He did really well in the ahl last year I think?
Didnt have the best sv % and gaa?

But how well that translates to the nhl remains to be seen.

He has the potential to be good, but so did steve mason.

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Before the avalanche of goalie proposals, can the people who want to trade more assets for another goalie explain what we'll do with Pavelec's 3.9 million dollars for 4 more years?

Sit it on the bench? That's a terrible use of cap space.
Trade him? If he's bad enough that we need to trade him, who's taking him?
Buy him out? Does that seem like a TNSE move?

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Wholesale changes are years away. There is no incentive.

STHs are locked in for another 2 - 3 years. There will be a >95% renewal rate. Small inroads on the wait list will take place, but nothing major.

Will build up through decent draft position for next 3 - 5 years.

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Wholesale changes are years away. There is no incentive.
There will be no wholesale changes but significant change is actually most likely soon pending. The Jets have a significant number of UFA contracts that expire at the end of this season, and a glance at the list implies that few of them are players that the team needs to bring back...

http://capgeek.com/jets
Change is indeed coming.

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There will be no wholesale changes but significant change is actually most likely soon pending. The Jets have a significant number of UFA contracts that expire at the end of this season, and a glance at the list implies that few of them are players that the team needs to bring back...

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Change is indeed coming.
You are quite right Gump. I was speaking more in terms of the stated approach of building through the draft. That doesn't happen overnight.

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There will be no wholesale changes but significant change is actually most likely soon pending. The Jets have a significant number of UFA contracts that expire at the end of this season, and a glance at the list implies that few of them are players that the team needs to bring back...

http://capgeek.com/jets
Change is indeed coming.
Good point. As painful as the last 3 games have been, we can at least be excited about the trade deadline and offseason if the poor play continues. As you say, LOTS of expiring contracts and a good stockpile of draft picks that can be added to at the deadline.

Hopefully they turn it around but it will be exciting either way (to me anyway - I love the GM side of the game).

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What will it take for us to have our Ponikarovsky back.

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