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01-28-2013, 06:57 PM
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Good thing nobody cares.

Krejci is a better starting point. Still not what we are really looking for.
That's a straight up deal. It's laughable to think you could get Krejci+ for Iginla at this stage of his career and contract situation. Most bruins fans would probably not even agree with Krejci for Iginla from the bruins perspective

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01-28-2013, 07:18 PM
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01-28-2013, 08:14 PM
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The Flames have absolutely no desire to pick up goaltender prospects in trades.

We don't need 10%+ of our 50 contracts tied up in goaltenders. We are happy with our current crop.

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01-28-2013, 08:56 PM
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For a rental? Our best forward and D prospect along with our first line RW? Get real.

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01-28-2013, 09:40 PM
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For a rental? Our best forward and D prospect along with our first line RW? Get real.
Maybe I'm confused, but Horton would also be a rental, who would have even less value for the Flames.

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01-28-2013, 10:09 PM
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01-28-2013, 10:32 PM
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Conditional 2013 3rd/4th if Iginla does not resign in Boston

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Conditional 2014 1st if Iginla does resign in Boston
Caron

Seems relatively fair to me. You could probably change that conditional 1st to a guaranteed 2013 2nd. This of course only happens at the deadline.

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01-28-2013, 10:49 PM
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That's a straight up deal. It's laughable to think you could get Krejci+ for Iginla at this stage of his career and contract situation. Most bruins fans would probably not even agree with Krejci for Iginla from the bruins perspective
Fantastic. Iginla will not be a Bruin if that is the case. Thanks for playing.

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01-29-2013, 11:10 AM
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just to be fair here... if iginla showed any desire not to resign... to move on... then he becomes a rental. until that happens, he is the franchise.

he might be a rental to whoever signs him... but to the flames he is their franchise and he has shown no indication at all that he wants to move on

so as a bruin fan... if we want iginla... if we think hes the missing piece... we will have to make it worth calgary's motive to move him. they have never said they want to move him. we might want them to move him... but they themselves have never said that they are unwilling to sign him to a new deal and carry on...

when we moved bourque... we knew bourque wasnt going to resign. bourque went to the team and said... he wasnt coming back. bourque gave us a chance to get something... but it was his choice. he was dissatisfied with how things were going. he wanted a chance to win a cup.

iginla hasnt done that yet.

so when we keep calling him a 'rental' its actually quite misleading. the only real issue we need to determin is whether or not he can help us win a cup. if we think he can, then he is worth paying the price to get.

the price... will be assets to improve for the future for calgary. they need a center that can play first or second line... so maybe a peverly would appeal to them? maybe a spooner would? certainly a krecji would....

but the deal also has to make sense for Boston.

if Boston was planning to resign iginla... or if a sign and trade happened... or if boston had a deal in place with iginla agreed to at the time of the trade... then moving krecji for iginla could make sense. 3 years of iginla is worth more then 3 years of krecji. krecji is coming up on ufa too...

so age isnt really a huge factor for boston. Krecji probably wont be resigned long term anyhow cause we want to move seguin into the middle. So a krecji for igninla deal might make sense if iginla was willing to resign...

iginla is a specal player. if boston isnt willing to ante up for him, someone else will be. If calgary decides to move him, they wont have to settle for a crap return.

i personally... do want iginla... but my desire for him does depend what contract he wants for the future. id give up more if his cap hit goes down.

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01-29-2013, 11:16 AM
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just to be fair here... if iginla showed any desire not to resign... to move on... then he becomes a rental. until that happens, he is the franchise.

he might be a rental to whoever signs him... but to the flames he is their franchise and he has shown no indication at all that he wants to move on

so as a bruin fan... if we want iginla... if we think hes the missing piece... we will have to make it worth calgary's motive to move him. they have never said they want to move him. we might want them to move him... but they themselves have never said that they are unwilling to sign him to a new deal and carry on...

when we moved bourque... we knew bourque wasnt going to resign. bourque went to the team and said... he wasnt coming back. bourque gave us a chance to get something... but it was his choice. he was dissatisfied with how things were going. he wanted a chance to win a cup.

iginla hasnt done that yet.

so when we keep calling him a 'rental' its actually quite misleading. the only real issue we need to determin is whether or not he can help us win a cup. if we think he can, then he is worth paying the price to get.

the price... will be assets to improve for the future for calgary. they need a center that can play first or second line... so maybe a peverly would appeal to them? maybe a spooner would? certainly a krecji would....

but the deal also has to make sense for Boston.

if Boston was planning to resign iginla... or if a sign and trade happened... or if boston had a deal in place with iginla agreed to at the time of the trade... then moving krecji for iginla could make sense. 3 years of iginla is worth more then 3 years of krecji. krecji is coming up on ufa too...

so age isnt really a huge factor for boston. Krecji probably wont be resigned long term anyhow cause we want to move seguin into the middle. So a krecji for igninla deal might make sense if iginla was willing to resign...

iginla is a specal player. if boston isnt willing to ante up for him, someone else will be. If calgary decides to move him, they wont have to settle for a crap return.

i personally... do want iginla... but my desire for him does depend what contract he wants for the future. id give up more if his cap hit goes down.
Krejci is a great player, and the value in a trade for him is fair. BUT.

If the Flames move Iggy we are rebuilding and need really young players. Krejci is only 26, but by the time we are ready to compete he will be probably 30, meaning he does not really fit our rebuild. We need someone younger, or several younger players.

We don't want Subban either, once again great prospect but we have a couple guys we feel are similar to him already in the system..

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01-29-2013, 03:58 PM
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Krejci is a great player, and the value in a trade for him is fair. BUT.

If the Flames move Iggy we are rebuilding and need really young players. Krejci is only 26, but by the time we are ready to compete he will be probably 30, meaning he does not really fit our rebuild. We need someone younger, or several younger players.

We don't want Subban either, once again great prospect but we have a couple guys we feel are similar to him already in the system..
why wopuldnt a 30 year old fit in with a rebuild? wouldnt a 30 year old iginla have been great for a team that is contending to have?

30 isnt old as long as the guy can still bring it.. and most 30 year olds can

a more important question is... would krecji resign in calgary"?

and if not... would he himself have trade value?

i suggest he would... id say krecji is worth a first + in a trade... alot of teams that need a number 1 center would give up a first and something for him.

so even if calgary didnt want him... flip him...

calgary needs value.... and should be aiming at a rebuild 2-3 years down the road. im not sure boston can give them the value they want, but krecji has value whether calgary kept him or flipped him... and if they do keep him, he will still be a good player 2-3 years from now

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01-29-2013, 04:09 PM
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when we moved bourque... we knew bourque wasnt going to resign. bourque went to the team and said... he wasnt coming back. bourque gave us a chance to get something... but it was his choice. he was dissatisfied with how things were going. he wanted a chance to win a cup.

Very well said and a point I tried to make unsuccessfully earlier in the thread. This whole speculative conversation hinges on this. Which is why I stated the return would not be the kings ransom the Flames fans crave.

Boston could offer excellent young value to the Flames. So could a few other contenders.

Iggy is gonna have to make first move here.

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