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01-21-2013, 03:59 PM
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Agreed they need more time. In my view coming back to play with his age group, will hurt his development. His leg speed and reflexes are incredible. He is a very calm goalie, aggresive to the shooters when called for. Big with a tight butterfly. The fact that Lafontaine was in the prospects game is interesting. Only Mcdavid was an under-age playing in the prospects game. Hosang played up and was dominant and was not invited to the prospects game with the 95's. Im not convinced he plays minor midget next year in Ontario, the way he currently looks in his net. Im not saying he is applying but he may end up somewhere else next year other than minor midget.
Although it may not be best for his development, it may still be in his best interests to continue to play Minor Midget AAA. I have seen him train, I have talked to him, he is very level headed, understands his abilities yet is still very modest. He has the psychological abilities to pass any OHL mental testing, but he is not an OHL ready goalie just yet. The 98's as we know are probably a more skilled group than the 97's, and could very well increase the calibre of the AAA again next year. There is always the option to practice with Jr. A teams, but I believe he will be back in this league next year.

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Hi, I'm just trying to educate myself on the draft process and again find myself directed to this thread.

Most of the discussion on this forum is dedicated to the first round prospects and rightfully so.

I have a few questions for those that have been around for a while about players drafted in the 4th round and later.


Do teams draft players that are not on their respective teams top lines, ie Shut down forwards and defensive defenseman?

If they do, do any of those players have a legitimate shot at cracking OHL line ups?

Most players that are drafted do not make the jump to the OHL right away, do OHL teams have preferred leagues/teams that their drafted players go to, or do most go on to play Major Midget?

Thanks for any insight that may be offered

You always have occasions when late picks (P.K. Subban) play their way on to the team, so they definitely have a legit shot at cracking the lineup. You'll also find late picks taken on players that are College/USNDP commitments that are taking a flyer on these kids in hopes they can convince them (which they often do) to coming to the OHL. One of the more famous cases of this would be Chris Pronger, who was drafted in the 6th round because he was supposed to be going to Bowling Green.

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Alot of fantastic prospects, here are some players that should go in the 2nd round and into the 3rd

Austin Gerhart: Barrie 6-1 185 (28gp,19G, 24A=43pts)
Aaron Luchuk: Kingston 5-10 170 (29GP,14G,23A=37pts)
Haydon MCcool: Whitby 6-3 190 (28gp,14G,9A=23pts)
Johnny Corneil: Central Ontario 5-10 175 (31Gp,17 and 17=34PTS)
Jake Bricknell: Central Ontario 6-0 180 (26gp, 10G, 21A=31pts)
Brett Primeau: Sun County 5-11 175(30GP,19G,15A=34pts)
Jesse Barwell Oakville 5-11 175 (28Gp, 19G, 21A=40pts)
Stephen Mariani Brampton 45s 6-0 205 (27GP,19G,16A=35pts)
Josh Kosack Brampton 45's 5-11 165 (23Gp, 12A, 13A,=25pts)
Cullen Mercer Huron Perth 5-11 165 (30Gp,20G, 24A= 44 PTS)
Noah Bushnell Sun County 6-2 200 (36Gp, 11G, 14A=25 pts)
Brent House London GOld 6-1 160 (30GP,10G, 17A=27pts)
Trent Fox London Gold 6-1 170 (27GP,15G,13A=28pts)
Danny Tyczynski Buffalo Regals 6-1 160 (17Gp, 4G,14A=18 pts)
Michael Davies Southern Tier 6-1 195 (17GP,12G,8A=20pts)
Mike Baird Southern Tier Admirals 6-2 190
Andrew Burns Oakville 6-0 170 (26gp,8G,9A=17pts)
Tyler MacArthur Barrie 6-3 175
Colton Sansom Barrie 6-3 165
Michael Holmes Barrie 6-3 175
Scott Villeneuve Nickel City 6-3 215
Adrian Carbonara Mississauga Senators 6-0 170
Andrew Peski Ottawa 6-1 190
Liam Dunda Don Mills 6-4 200
Matt Mcconnach Don Mills 6-1 170
Graham Knott York Simcoe 6-1 170
Noah Robinson Toronto Marlboros 5-11 190

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Alot of fantastic prospects, here are some players that should go in the 2nd round and into the 3rd

Austin Gerhart: Barrie 6-1 185 (28gp,19G, 24A=43pts)
Aaron Luchuk: Kingston 5-10 170 (29GP,14G,23A=37pts)
Haydon MCcool: Whitby 6-3 190 (28gp,14G,9A=23pts)
Johnny Corneil: Central Ontario 5-10 175 (31Gp,17 and 17=34PTS)
Jake Bricknell: Central Ontario 6-0 180 (26gp, 10G, 21A=31pts)
Brett Primeau: Sun County 5-11 175(30GP,19G,15A=34pts)
Jesse Barwell Oakville 5-11 175 (28Gp, 19G, 21A=40pts)
Stephen Mariani Brampton 45s 6-0 205 (27GP,19G,16A=35pts)
Josh Kosack Brampton 45's 5-11 165 (23Gp, 12A, 13A,=25pts)
Cullen Mercer Huron Perth 5-11 165 (30Gp,20G, 24A= 44 PTS)
Noah Bushnell Sun County 6-2 200 (36Gp, 11G, 14A=25 pts)
Brent House London GOld 6-1 160 (30GP,10G, 17A=27pts)
Trent Fox London Gold 6-1 170 (27GP,15G,13A=28pts)
Danny Tyczynski Buffalo Regals 6-1 160 (17Gp, 4G,14A=18 pts)
Michael Davies Southern Tier 6-1 195 (17GP,12G,8A=20pts)
Mike Baird Southern Tier Admirals 6-2 190
Andrew Burns Oakville 6-0 170 (26gp,8G,9A=17pts)
Tyler MacArthur Barrie 6-3 175
Colton Sansom Barrie 6-3 165
Michael Holmes Barrie 6-3 175
Scott Villeneuve Nickel City 6-3 215
Adrian Carbonara Mississauga Senators 6-0 170
Andrew Peski Ottawa 6-1 190
Liam Dunda Don Mills 6-4 200
Matt Mcconnach Don Mills 6-1 170
Graham Knott York Simcoe 6-1 170
Noah Robinson Toronto Marlboros 5-11 190
Definately some names to watch. The double header last Tuesday was a prime example of teams inability to score goals. With this being a defense heavy draft it is eveident that there is a limited amount of TOP forwards.
To note, you cant rely to much on stats. Alot of stats are padded, some players are put in better situations then others such as the pp time. Also players pad the stats against weaker teams.
Scouts dont emphasize stats as much as watching and assessing their play. Best to be an overall player. Alot of the players mentioned are two way players that work both ends of the ice. Which goes a long way.

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Definately some names to watch. The double header last Tuesday was a prime example of teams inability to score goals. With this being a defense heavy draft it is eveident that there is a limited amount of TOP forwards.
To note, you cant rely to much on stats. Alot of stats are padded, some players are put in better situations then others such as the pp time. Also players pad the stats against weaker teams.
Scouts dont emphasize stats as much as watching and assessing their play. Best to be an overall player. Alot of the players mentioned are two way players that work both ends of the ice. Which goes a long way.
I agree with you, I thought instead of giving a little write up on each guy, it gets quite repetitive, I chose to write the stats and physical make up of that player. Ive seen all those players I listed a minimum of 5 times, most of them closer to 15. I agree stats dont tell the whole story. Mike Baird on Southern Tier and Graham Knott on YSE are very good example's of that.

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I agree with you, I thought instead of giving a little write up on each guy, it gets quite repetitive, I chose to write the stats and physical make up of that player. Ive seen all those players I listed a minimum of 5 times, most of them closer to 15. I agree stats dont tell the whole story. Mike Baird on Southern Tier and Graham Knott on YSE are very good example's of that.
The "last stretch" will be fun to see what all pans out. I think there are 10 players that can all go in top 5. Dont think that is written in stone either. I think its safe to day the kids talked about in our past mock drafts will be first rounders. Anyone dare to try the top 40 ?


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Alot of fantastic prospects, here are some players that should go in the 2nd round and into the 3rd

Austin Gerhart: Barrie 6-1 185 (28gp,19G, 24A=43pts)
Aaron Luchuk: Kingston 5-10 170 (29GP,14G,23A=37pts)
Haydon MCcool: Whitby 6-3 190 (28gp,14G,9A=23pts)
Johnny Corneil: Central Ontario 5-10 175 (31Gp,17 and 17=34PTS)
Jake Bricknell: Central Ontario 6-0 180 (26gp, 10G, 21A=31pts)
Brett Primeau: Sun County 5-11 175(30GP,19G,15A=34pts)
Jesse Barwell Oakville 5-11 175 (28Gp, 19G, 21A=40pts)
Stephen Mariani Brampton 45s 6-0 205 (27GP,19G,16A=35pts)
Josh Kosack Brampton 45's 5-11 165 (23Gp, 12A, 13A,=25pts)
Cullen Mercer Huron Perth 5-11 165 (30Gp,20G, 24A= 44 PTS)
Noah Bushnell Sun County 6-2 200 (36Gp, 11G, 14A=25 pts)
Brent House London GOld 6-1 160 (30GP,10G, 17A=27pts)
Trent Fox London Gold 6-1 170 (27GP,15G,13A=28pts)
Danny Tyczynski Buffalo Regals 6-1 160 (17Gp, 4G,14A=18 pts)
Michael Davies Southern Tier 6-1 195 (17GP,12G,8A=20pts)
Mike Baird Southern Tier Admirals 6-2 190
Andrew Burns Oakville 6-0 170 (26gp,8G,9A=17pts)
Tyler MacArthur Barrie 6-3 175
Colton Sansom Barrie 6-3 165
Michael Holmes Barrie 6-3 175
Scott Villeneuve Nickel City 6-3 215
Adrian Carbonara Mississauga Senators 6-0 170
Andrew Peski Ottawa 6-1 190
Liam Dunda Don Mills 6-4 200
Matt Mcconnach Don Mills 6-1 170
Graham Knott York Simcoe 6-1 170
Noah Robinson Toronto Marlboros 5-11 190
ML979, you certainly do travel As far as the G goes, I don't see Zeppy, Marner, Rajic, Iacobucci, Avidan, Webb, Clapham, Saban and Wilkie. What do you think?

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The "last stretch" will be fun to see what all pans out. I think there are 10 players that can all go in top 5. Dont think that is written in stone either. I think its safe to day the kids talked about in our past mock drafts will be first rounders. Anyone dare to try the top 40 ?
I think there are 2 lists to make. One is player ranking and One is making a list of where u think guys will go. I think the Peterborough pick might be a challenge to predict. I think they will go hard after an Ontario born player. Im not sure Spencer or Konecny or Strome will report. Secondly, the consensus seems to be that Zach Werenski is a #2 or #3 player in this draft. Aside from Erie who is near that spot, I also dont see Werenski going to the Petes. If Windsor still had there first round pick which is #4 right now, Werenski a Michigan born player, would be a lock to go there. I wonder If he is open to go to a few places or would rather play closer to home, near the border and potentially want to fall to that team.

I made a top 20 a week or two ago. I had Blake Speers at #15, to Belleville on that big ice. I personally have Speers now inside the top 10 and I dont think he is going to move backwards anymore. SSM was #9 on that list and I am not sure he will make it past his hometown team. My reason is that Speers is very close in all areas to Konecny from a skill standpoint, IQ, feet, motor, playmaking etc. He is a December born 97 so he still has time on his side to get stronger and possibly gain another inch or two. I would select Speers over Stephens and Korostelev, based on a more complete game and compete level and have a ton of high end skill. The only forwards in Ontario, Id possibly select over Speers right now are Konecny, Mckenzie and Strome. Lawson Crouse is close to being in that mix for me.

As far as defenseman and projectable upside goes in Ontario after Matt Spencer, Its hard to ignore what Connor Schlichting will be in the future. He has an incredibly high upside. Sure u can raise a few questions about the physical side of the puck. That may or may not come around. He is so cool with the puck and he passes the puck hard like an OHL player already, has one of the hardest shots in this draft, very smart player.

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ML979, you certainly do travel As far as the G goes, I don't see Zeppy, Marner, Rajic, Iacobucci, Avidan, Webb, Clapham, Saban and Wilkie. What do you think?
I left out the GTHL because its gets alot of chatter here.

Zeppy, Wilkie, Clapham, Saban, Dunda, Avidan - mid 2nd to mid 3rd.
Iacobucci late 3rd or 4th
Rajic 4th-5th
Webb 3rd.
Marner? good question. A bit of a wildcard here. I think late 2nd-3rd.

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I left out the GTHL because its gets alot of chatter here.

Zeppy, Wilkie, Clapham, Saban, Dunda, Avidan - mid 2nd to mid 3rd.
Iacobucci late 3rd or 4th
Rajic 4th-5th
Webb 3rd.
Marner? good question. A bit of a wildcard here. I think late 2nd-3rd.
I like your opinions. I'm not sold on Dunda. Very big but slow. I also think that Marner will be gone by the end of the 3rd, although I can see a team rolling the dice on him in the 2nd.
DeFarias? I don't think he will grow, is he going in the 2nd? I think he's the most skilled d-man in the G.

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I think there are 2 lists to make. One is player ranking and One is making a list of where u think guys will go. I think the Peterborough pick might be a challenge to predict. I think they will go hard after an Ontario born player. Im not sure Spencer or Konecny or Strome will report. Secondly, the consensus seems to be that Zach Werenski is a #2 or #3 player in this draft. Aside from Erie who is near that spot, I also dont see Werenski going to the Petes. If Windsor still had there first round pick which is #4 right now, Werenski a Michigan born player, would be a lock to go there. I wonder If he is open to go to a few places or would rather play closer to home, near the border and potentially want to fall to that team.

I made a top 20 a week or two ago. I had Blake Speers at #15, to Belleville on that big ice. I personally have Speers now inside the top 10 and I dont think he is going to move backwards anymore. SSM was #9 on that list and I am not sure he will make it past his hometown team. My reason is that Speers is very close in all areas to Konecny from a skill standpoint, IQ, feet, motor, playmaking etc. He is a December born 97 so he still has time on his side to get stronger and possibly gain another inch or two. I would select Speers over Stephens and Korostelev, based on a more complete game and compete level and have a ton of high end skill. The only forwards in Ontario, Id possibly select over Speers right now are Konecny, Mckenzie and Strome. Lawson Crouse is close to being in that mix for me.

As far as defenseman and projectable upside goes in Ontario after Matt Spencer, Its hard to ignore what Connor Schlichting will be in the future. He has an incredibly high upside. Sure u can raise a few questions about the physical side of the puck. That may or may not come around. He is so cool with the puck and he passes the puck hard like an OHL player already, has one of the hardest shots in this draft, very smart player.
You think nobody will report even if they have stepped it up recently? If you were to guess who the Petes take a serious run at in the draft who would it be?..

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I like your opinions. I'm not sold on Dunda. Very big but slow. I also think that Marner will be gone by the end of the 3rd, although I can see a team rolling the dice on him in the 2nd.
DeFarias? I don't think he will grow, is he going in the 2nd? I think he's the most skilled d-man in the G.
Imo, Defarius is another 2nd or 3rd player. I like him too. Defarius has excellent passes leaving his own zone and his feet are very nice, moves the puck well on the PP.

I am not completely thrilled with Dunda either. I actually dont mind his skating, decent shot. Obviously he has a big physical advantage right now. Question is when boys in the OHL his size, push back, what will he do? Will intimidation make his game fizzle out, or will he push through it. Teams will love his size and would possibly pass on a smaller kid with more skill. He has more to offer than other Towers in the draft like Noah Jordan. Dunda on the PP standing in front of the net with his size will be an asset that teams will want to use, his hands are good to bang pucks in.

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You think nobody will report even if they have stepped it up recently? If you were to guess who the Petes take a serious run at in the draft who would it be?..
I think they go hard after Matt Spencer 1st, Strome,Konecny, Mckenzie next. Im not saying no one, Im doubtful about Werenski going there. I hope for the balance of the league and achieving Parity that there #1 or #2 option reports.

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I think they go hard after Matt Spencer 1st, Strome,Konecny, Mckenzie next. Im not saying no one, Im doubtful about Werenski going there. I hope for the balance of the league and achieving Parity that there #1 or #2 option reports.
I'd be happy with any of those 4, I just hope they don't take local Stephens that far up... Thanks for the response Mapleleaf.

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I'd be happy with any of those 4, I just hope they don't take local Stephens that far up... Thanks for the response Mapleleaf.

Projected first 5 picks in each position. Not in a order or projected round. US Players won't be picked without hard confirmation that they'll report

Forward

McKenzie
Speers
Strome
Konecny
Stephens


Defence

Spencer
DiFarius
Capobianco
Henley
McFadden

Dark horse is Sean Day

Goal

Tampano
McGlynn
Cormier
Helvig
Semiao

Dark horse is Blacker

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Steelheads would currently select 6th if the draft was today. I know someone, i think it was mapleleaf had them taking Konecny at that spot. Is there anyone at 6 that would be a good match/fit for the steelheads and is there anyone that might not report to Sauga?

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Projected first 5 picks in each position. Not in a order or projected round. US Players won't be picked without hard confirmation that they'll report

Forward

McKenzie
Speers
Strome
Konecny
Stephens


Defence

Spencer
DiFarius
Capobianco
Henley
McFadden

Dark horse is Sean Day

Goal

Tampano
McGlynn
Cormier
Helvig
Semiao

Dark horse is Blacker
Think the Petes better think D. I am pretty sure the top 5 Fwds will not report. Petes need about 4 years to clean up mess. They should take the best player and if they don't report they will have two high first round picks next year to start the rebuild.

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Steelheads would currently select 6th if the draft was today. I know someone, i think it was mapleleaf had them taking Konecny at that spot. Is there anyone at 6 that would be a good match/fit for the steelheads and is there anyone that might not report to Sauga?
Brett Mckenzie would be a nice selection. A hard working forward, who u appreciate more, the more games u see him play. Very hard working, which I love. Tricky little play maker. He plays the complete 200 feet, which is also a bonus. He makes the opposing Dmen work down low. I have a feeling alot of the top end forwards go early, as they are scarce. He has nice size too already. 6-2 180. Could improve a touch on his explosion and his stride. He is one of the more complete forwards in this draft. There is no frustration watching this player, he gives it everything and thats what u like to see.

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Projected first 5 picks in each position. Not in a order or projected round. US Players won't be picked without hard confirmation that they'll report

Forward

McKenzie
Speers
Strome
Konecny
Stephens


Defence

Spencer
DiFarius
Capobianco
Henley
McFadden
I like your forward top 5 group.

The Defense I disagree with u a little bit. Id put Connor Schlichting, Connor Walters, Colton White, Vande Sompel over Capobianco and Defarius. Although Vande Sompel may or may not play forward in the OHL next year. Those 2 London Gold players have explosive skating strides and a bit more bulk than the other Capo and Defarius. White, Vande Sompel, Capo, Defarius are considered Offensive puck moving Dmen.

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I made a top 20 a week or two ago. I had Blake Speers at #15, to Belleville on that big ice. I personally have Speers now inside the top 10 and I dont think he is going to move backwards anymore. SSM was #9 on that list and I am not sure he will make it past his hometown team.
Somewhat similar player to Niki Petti isn't he? Not saying that to knock your pick just looking for a comparison. Caught half of a SSM game and chatted with a scout who was quite high on the kid.

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Somewhat similar player to Niki Petti isn't he? Not saying that to knock your pick just looking for a comparison. Caught half of a SSM game and chatted with a scout who was quite high on the kid.
Somewhat similar ya, but for me Speers is a little better at everything. Speers wont be there at #15.


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Steelheads would currently select 6th if the draft was today. I know someone, i think it was mapleleaf had them taking Konecny at that spot. Is there anyone at 6 that would be a good match/fit for the steelheads and is there anyone that might not report to Sauga?
Don't think Konecny will be around at #6. Mitchell Stephens will be a really good player in the OHL. Great speed, strong on puck, could play in the O right now.

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What do you guys think about for the bigger boys? For example from London - House, Fox, Brulotte. All big boys that can go to the dirty areas and with some good skill. Where would they rank?

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