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01-29-2013, 12:43 PM
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Pens- Winger for Sid giving both Star Centers elite scoring wingers with grinder/speedster wing compliments

Ducks- Do it for Depth forward in Tangradi, NHL ready top prospect and very Servicable Kunitz who is a character guy and goes 110% each shift. Plus Ana gets their players back from the Whitney trade...

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01-29-2013, 12:45 PM
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Tangradi brings nothing to the table for us. I'd rather have an equivalent pick. We have no interest in bringing back the Burke era picks.

The rest of the pieces are fine, but, you know, we'd rather try and sign Perry first.

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01-29-2013, 12:48 PM
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Tangradi brings nothing to the table for us. I'd rather have an equivalent pick. We have no interest in bringing back the Burke era picks.

The rest of the pieces are fine, but, you know, we'd rather try and sign Perry first.
So, the equivalent pick for Tangradi is a sixth rounder?

That is too much to give up for a pending UFA with no assurances that he will resign in Pittsburgh.

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So, the equivalent pick for Tangradi is a sixth rounder?
At this point, sounds about right.

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Would the pens need to add? If so would a prospect like hanowski or blueger work rather than tangradi (you can keep him to though haha)

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Pretty horrible for the Ducks. No reason at all that they do this.

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I don't think Anaheim says yes. IF they knew they couldn't resign him, then IMO, it's close. Probably swap out Tangradi for Jeffery or Kennedy, whatever to make it work.

From Pittsburgh's POV, you've completed Sid's line in: Dupuis-Crosby-Perry, but send away the best option, Kunitz, for Geno's line and thus, the Pens are stuck with Kennedy on the second line. I think it's a problem you will take for adding Perry.

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Would the pens need to add? If so would a prospect like hanowski or blueger work rather than tangradi (you can keep him to though haha)
Pittsburgh shouldn't have to add one thing. It's too much to give for a guy that you might not be able to resign.

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Pretty horrible for the Ducks. No reason at all that they do this.
It's bad for both.

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Pens and Ducks are bad trading partners for superstars.

IF perry is moved, it will be to whoever offers a package around a young player. Pittsburg is not the team to this.

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PIT

Kunitz
Tangradi
Despres
1st 2013

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Corey Perry

Pens- Winger for Sid giving both Star Centers elite scoring wingers with grinder/speedster wing compliments

Ducks- Do it for Depth forward in Tangradi, NHL ready top prospect and very Servicable Kunitz who is a character guy and goes 110% each shift. Plus Ana gets their players back from the Whitney trade...
while i'd do this, the Pens would have to be ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE that they have a deal in place for Perry once he got here. this trade screams Hossa from back in the day.

that said, the Ducks wouldn't do that, even if Perry's contract expired in like 5 minutes.

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What's the NTC for Kunitz?
I don't see him volunteering to leave a cup contender... or was he in love with Anaheim?


The trade isnt as far off as Ducks fans want to believe. They need to get something for Perry...

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So, the equivalent pick for Tangradi is a sixth rounder?

That is too much to give up for a pending UFA with no assurances that he will resign in Pittsburgh.
Come on now. A winger would salivate at the very notion of playing with Crosby. He's not going to refuse playing in Pittsburgh with Crosby if they were willing to pay him a good salary and the fact that the team is going to be a perennial contender for a good while, it's all the more enticing. You were willing to fork out $50m over 7 years for Hossa, right (or was it 5 years $35m)? I know it'd be a little tough to come up with that kind of money now with impending extensions of Malkin, Letang, Orpik, Niskanen, etc., but IF they could wheel and deal and clear space (which they probably will have to do), they can easily entice him for a 7 year term.


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What's the NTC for Kunitz?
I don't see him volunteering to leave a cup contender... or was he in love with Anaheim?


The trade isnt as far off as Ducks fans want to believe. They need to get something for Perry...
It's not far off value wise, but it Won't happen. Ducks will simply get better offers and they will pick one that involves a young player. That deal doesn't have that. I wish we had Kunitz back, but he's not someone we would target in a deal for Perry. Don't want Tangradi. We knew how overrated he was when he was here and we still don't want him.

It's not about it being far off, it's about it being a bad fit. There would be plenty of better fitting offers than that one.

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Pretty fair deal from a high level POV; very Hossa/Kovy-esque.

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Come on now. A winger would salivate at the very notion of playing with Crosby. He's not going to refuse playing in Pittsburgh with Crosby if they were willing to pay him a good salary and the fact that the team is going to be a perennial contender for a good while, it's all the more enticing. You were willing to fork out $50m over 7 years for Hossa, right (or was it 5 years $35m)? I know it'd be a little tough to come up with that kind of money now with impending extensions of Malkin, Letang, Orpik, Niskanen, etc., but IF they could wheel and deal and clear space (which they probably will have to do), they can easily entice him for a 7 year term.
because that worked out so well with Zach Parise

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Come on now. A winger would salivate at the very notion of playing with Crosby. He's not going to refuse playing in Pittsburgh with Crosby if they were willing to pay him a good salary and the fact that the team is going to be a perennial contender for a good while, it's all the more enticing. You were willing to fork out $50m over 7 years for Hossa, right (or was it 5 years $35m)? I know it'd be a little tough to come up with that kind of money now with impending extensions of Malkin, Letang, Orpik, Niskanen, etc., but IF they could wheel and deal and clear space (which they probably will have to do), they can easily entice him for a 7 year term.
There's nothing to say that Pitt would give him the highest $ value offer (in fact, it is unlikely that they would). And unfortunately we've yet to see a star player take a "discount" to play with Sid and the Pens (you yourself recall the Hossa situation and there have been others, see: Parise, Zack).

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because that worked out so well with Zach Parise
Ahhhh...I wasn't aware you were in strong contention, but I guess two strikes went against you.

-Parise went home.
-13 yrs, $98m.

No one can offer that kind of money or term-length now. Makes it easier for you.

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I would think Ana would want Beau Bennett involved in the deal. California kid with legit top 6 potential having a great rookie year in the AHL. Thought Pitt would likely be hard pressed to give him up being that he's the only future top line wing prospect in their system.

Tangradi just doesn't add anything right now. He hasn't shown anything useful at all lined up with Malkin and Neal so his value really is slim to none right now. Trading Kunitz would still leave a hole in the Pens top 6 so they'd have to find another winger for the play-offs if they traded him so can't see him involved.

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There's nothing to say that Pitt would give him the highest $ value offer (in fact, it is unlikely that they would). And unfortunately we've yet to see a star player take a "discount" to play with Sid and the Pens (you yourself recall the Hossa situation and there have been others, see: Parise, Zack).
The Hossa rejection was based on him being skeptical about Pittsburgh being able to retain pieces to contend again if he signed and ate up a big chunk of the cap-space. Well, he was proven wrong and how!

I do acknowledge that money came into play in Parise's decision, but those kind of deals will not be there anymore. That was an insanely large number.

Now that I think about it though, I would assume Perry may have the same reservations Hossa did.

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The Hossa rejection was based on him being skeptical about Pittsburgh being able to retain pieces to contend again if he signed and ate up a big chunk of the cap-space. Well, he was proven wrong and how!

I do acknowledge that money came into play in Parise's decision, but those kind of deals will not be there anymore. That was an insanely large number.

Now that I think about it though, I would assume Perry may have the same reservations Hossa did.
The reality is that - with the exception of "hometown" players (i.e. players from the city in question or players with a long-term history with their team) - most players aren't inclined to take a discount in exchange for hollow promises about the team's competitiveness/ability to win a Cup, and I don't blame them. I highly doubt that Perry would accept - for example - $6M on a long-term deal from the Pens if somebody else was offering $7M+. That's just the way she goes. For the record, I would LOVE Perry in a Pens uniform.

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No thanks from Ducks POV.... Not the worst but definitely not the first choice by any means.

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